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(04-27-2014 09:54 AM)gosports1 Wrote:  http://www.providencejournal.com/sports/...-rules.ece

The Big East, as well as the American and Mountain West, have little choice but to follow the lead of the P5 if they want to maintain their position as major conferences. The Big East generates basketball revenues in the same neighborhood as the P5 from TV, attendance and NCAA tournament fund. It should not allow itself to become a second class citizen.

The Big East should have expanded football, when it could have. If it had happened we would be talking about the P6 instead of the P5. This would have been the 19 team conference that would play each team once in basketball each year. But al last, failure to work and play well together destroyed the "goose that laid the golden eggs"!

1. UConn
2. Syracuse
3. Rutgers
4. Pitt
5. West Virginia
6. Cincinnati
7. Louisville
8. East Carolina
9. Central Florida
10. South Florida
11. Memphis
12. Houston
13. Notre Dame
14. Marquette
15. DePaul
16. Providence
17. St. Johns
18. Villanova
19. Georgetown

(05-01-2014 07:33 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  The Big East should have expanded football, when it could have. If it had happened we would be talking about the P6 instead of the P5. This would have been the 19 team conference that would play each team once in basketball each year. But al last, failure to work and play well together destroyed the "goose that laid the golden eggs"!

Let it go already... Not to mention the irony that this comes from a guy whose team took the first available ticket out of the conference to the ACC.

If anything, the BE should have parted ways back in 2004...or perhaps never sponsored FB in the first place. The BE was always a Basketball conference, and even when it was good, BE football never got the respect it deserved.

I highly doubt bringing in ECU, UCF,Memphis and Houston would have prevented anyone from leaving for the ACC or B10 (or B12 in WVU's case)

I think the one thing that could have been a mistake was not going more than 8 when Louisville, Cincy, etc. came aboard in 2005. I think the one big mistake was Memphis quite frankly. They were pretty good at that point in football if you remember. Had the basketball chops of course.

You forgot Seton Hall on that list.

The biggest mistake wasn't adding Penn State when they had the chance.

1: Boston College
2: Connecticut
3: Miami
4: Notre Dame
5: Penn State
6: Pittsburgh
7: Rutgers
8: Syracuse
9: Virginia Tech
10: West Virginia
11: Georgetown (non football)
12: Providence (non football)
13: Saint John's (non football)
14: Seton Hall (non football)
15: Villanova (non football)

(05-01-2014 08:01 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  I highly doubt bringing in ECU, UCF,Memphis and Houston would have prevented anyone from leaving for the ACC or B10 (or B12 in WVU's case)

Agreed. Love you guys, but Syracuse had to do what was necessary to be in a P5/AQ conference. Unlike some, we honored our contractual obligations and did not sue anybody (and were not sued). Staying together with the AAC was an option for you, but it would not have been enough to hold SU, Pitt, TCU, WVU, RU or UL. The writing was on the wall that the Old Big East was at serious risk of losing its AQ status.

The only thing that bringing in those other teams may have done is that there may not have been the calamity at the end of the 2010 season with unranked UConn winning the conference. If it's say a 15th ranked team- things are a lot different perception wise. but when UConn won as unranked team- that changed everything.

Didn't they stay at 8 as not to tip with balance with the bb onlies for 5 yrs?
Chances Penn st would probably have been poached eventually?

(05-16-2014 10:12 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  Didn't they stay at 8 as not to tip with balance with the bb onlies for 5 yrs?

It's impossible to say for sure. But probably not--the basketball schools were protected by the Pre-Nup governing an eventual split, and the football schools were just never very united. When they finally agreed to invite TCU, the basketball schools signed on.

Quote:Chances Penn st would probably have been poached eventually?

Impossible to say, and a perennial argument--would a Penn State in a successful Eastern conference have ever cast eyes Big Ten-ward? Or would Penn State have inevitably drifted from partnership with Syracuse and Pitt and Rutgers to Michigan and Ohio State and Wisconsin?

PSU always wanted in the Big 10.

(05-22-2014 12:02 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  PSU always wanted in the Big 10.

Maybe. The other side says that Penn State's Big Ten ambitions date from 1982 and the Big East rejection. I don't know or care.