Southern's came out today. We are at #124.

(04-23-2014 08:42 AM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  Southern's came out today. We are at #124.

Wow. What does an SEC win get you with these people?

I feel better about App's ranking now. That site is a joke.

(04-23-2014 08:48 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 08:42 AM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  Southern's came out today. We are at #124.

Wow. What does an SEC win get you with these people?

I feel better about App's ranking now. That site is a joke.

I can't speak for the site's validity. I thought the Florida win would bump them up a few rankings.

However, you can't cherry-pick. You can't say they beat Florida and forget they lost to Wofford, Samford, Appalachian State, and Furman. That's not how football works. Add in that in one of those losses they got waxed 38-14 by a 4-win Appalachian State, the Florida game begins to look like a down year gator team brought their D- game, didn't take them seriously, and Georgia Southern brought their A++ game and won by 6.

It was a great win for GSU and the SBC, but the big games Troy has won I was never foolish enough to think we were on equal footing, as if they brought the same game to us as they brought to their SEC/BIG 12 opponents.

(04-22-2014 01:27 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 05:30 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I'd trade either Ark St. or ULL for NMSU in our transitional year.

There's a different way of looking at it. I think you should want the tough schedule so you grow.

Lets face it, even if you guys have a good year, you aren't really bowl eligible anyway.

To hear you talk about the level of talent we have (even though you've never watched an App game) any mix of the SBC would be too much for us to handle. Sounds like double talk to me.

Isn't there an exclusion should a transitional team have 6 bowl eligible wins and no other FBS program has 6 wins they could get invited? I'm certainly not predicting that however, I'd say 5-7 would be a good year.

I'm not really worried about where we rank on this list. They could have listed us last for all I care. We have a lot of work to do. Plain and simple. But if our team wants to change that ranking, they need to win. That's it.

(04-23-2014 09:01 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(04-22-2014 01:27 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 05:30 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I'd trade either Ark St. or ULL for NMSU in our transitional year.

There's a different way of looking at it. I think you should want the tough schedule so you grow.

Lets face it, even if you guys have a good year, you aren't really bowl eligible anyway.

To hear you talk about the level of talent we have (even though you've never watched an App game) any mix of the SBC would be too much for us to handle. Sounds like double talk to me.

Isn't there an exclusion should a transitional team have 6 bowl eligible wins and no other FBS program has 6 wins they could get invited? I'm certainly not predicting that however, I'd say 5-7 would be a good year.

The year they did that the NCAA projected that they did not have enough to meet the bowl requirements because Penn State and some others were not eligible.
They knew it was waived, if needed, before the season began.

For those that want to read Georgia Southern's write up:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/bl...70805.post

(04-23-2014 08:56 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 08:48 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 08:42 AM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  Southern's came out today. We are at #124.

Wow. What does an SEC win get you with these people?

I feel better about App's ranking now. That site is a joke.

I can't speak for the site's validity. I thought the Florida win would bump them up a few rankings.

However, you can't cherry-pick. You can't say they beat Florida and forget they lost to Wofford, Samford, Appalachian State, and Furman. That's not how football works. Add in that in one of those losses they got waxed 38-14 by a 4-win Appalachian State, the Florida game begins to look like a down year gator team brought their D- game, didn't take them seriously, and Georgia Southern brought their A++ game and won by 6.

It was a great win for GSU and the SBC, but the big games Troy has won I was never foolish enough to think we were on equal footing, as if they brought the same game to us as they brought to their SEC/BIG 12 opponents.

Granted, but 124 is too low for a team coming off an SEC win. I'm sorry.

(04-23-2014 09:42 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 08:56 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 08:48 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 08:42 AM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  Southern's came out today. We are at #124.

Wow. What does an SEC win get you with these people?

I feel better about App's ranking now. That site is a joke.

I can't speak for the site's validity. I thought the Florida win would bump them up a few rankings.

However, you can't cherry-pick. You can't say they beat Florida and forget they lost to Wofford, Samford, Appalachian State, and Furman. That's not how football works. Add in that in one of those losses they got waxed 38-14 by a 4-win Appalachian State, the Florida game begins to look like a down year gator team brought their D- game, didn't take them seriously, and Georgia Southern brought their A++ game and won by 6.

It was a great win for GSU and the SBC, but the big games Troy has won I was never foolish enough to think we were on equal footing, as if they brought the same game to us as they brought to their SEC/BIG 12 opponents.

Granted, but 124 is too low for a team coming off an SEC win. I'm sorry.

I think so too, but the win was never going to vault them into the 60's or 70's.

(04-23-2014 09:45 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 09:42 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 08:56 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 08:48 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 08:42 AM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  Southern's came out today. We are at #124.

Wow. What does an SEC win get you with these people?

I feel better about App's ranking now. That site is a joke.

I can't speak for the site's validity. I thought the Florida win would bump them up a few rankings.

However, you can't cherry-pick. You can't say they beat Florida and forget they lost to Wofford, Samford, Appalachian State, and Furman. That's not how football works. Add in that in one of those losses they got waxed 38-14 by a 4-win Appalachian State, the Florida game begins to look like a down year gator team brought their D- game, didn't take them seriously, and Georgia Southern brought their A++ game and won by 6.

It was a great win for GSU and the SBC, but the big games Troy has won I was never foolish enough to think we were on equal footing, as if they brought the same game to us as they brought to their SEC/BIG 12 opponents.

Granted, but 124 is too low for a team coming off an SEC win. I'm sorry.

I think so too, but the win was never going to vault them into the 60's or 70's.

Oh of course not. I think we're on the same page.

(04-23-2014 10:02 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 09:45 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 09:42 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 08:56 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 08:48 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  Wow. What does an SEC win get you with these people?

I feel better about App's ranking now. That site is a joke.

I can't speak for the site's validity. I thought the Florida win would bump them up a few rankings.

However, you can't cherry-pick. You can't say they beat Florida and forget they lost to Wofford, Samford, Appalachian State, and Furman. That's not how football works. Add in that in one of those losses they got waxed 38-14 by a 4-win Appalachian State, the Florida game begins to look like a down year gator team brought their D- game, didn't take them seriously, and Georgia Southern brought their A++ game and won by 6.

It was a great win for GSU and the SBC, but the big games Troy has won I was never foolish enough to think we were on equal footing, as if they brought the same game to us as they brought to their SEC/BIG 12 opponents.

Granted, but 124 is too low for a team coming off an SEC win. I'm sorry.

I think so too, but the win was never going to vault them into the 60's or 70's.

Oh of course not. I think we're on the same page.

I was thinking in the 100-110 range.

South Alabama lost to a #21 FCS ranked Southern Utah.

5 of App's loses came by way of:
#8 Montana
#19 Samford
#22 Furman
#23 Chattanooga
#24 Charleston Southern

I think this proves your point though that you can't really base a teams strength off of 1 game. However I think theres a chance that USA loses at least 2 of the 5 games above.

We will all see how this plays in a few months once we finally get on the field!

How many players will App have this year that have played in a college football game? Looking at the roster, you guys seem to be a really young team this year.

(04-24-2014 10:04 AM)wh49er Wrote:  How many players will App have this year that have played in a college football game? Looking at the roster, you guys seem to be a really young team this year.

No problem. We bought a book. Called, "Football For Dummies".
It has big color pictures.

(04-24-2014 10:04 AM)wh49er Wrote:  How many players will App have this year that have played in a college football game? Looking at the roster, you guys seem to be a really young team this year.

By my count, we have 52 guys that have seen game action. I believe the reason it looks so young is because only three of our freshman class from last year weren't redshirted, so they're all still listed as freshman.

Updated

http://interactive.orlandosentinel.com/c...index.html

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Not sure I call Charlie Weis struggling as a college coach a surprise.

(04-23-2014 10:37 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 10:02 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 09:45 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 09:42 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 08:56 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  I can't speak for the site's validity. I thought the Florida win would bump them up a few rankings.

However, you can't cherry-pick. You can't say they beat Florida and forget they lost to Wofford, Samford, Appalachian State, and Furman. That's not how football works. Add in that in one of those losses they got waxed 38-14 by a 4-win Appalachian State, the Florida game begins to look like a down year gator team brought their D- game, didn't take them seriously, and Georgia Southern brought their A++ game and won by 6.

It was a great win for GSU and the SBC, but the big games Troy has won I was never foolish enough to think we were on equal footing, as if they brought the same game to us as they brought to their SEC/BIG 12 opponents.

Granted, but 124 is too low for a team coming off an SEC win. I'm sorry.

I think so too, but the win was never going to vault them into the 60's or 70's.

Oh of course not. I think we're on the same page.

I was thinking in the 100-110 range.

One thing you have to understand is that the difference in quality between being in the 100-110 range and 127 is minute. Considering all the factors this is a complete crap shoot and the best you can do until you get near the top is do very broad tiers, much broader than the ten you seem to be thinking.

damn imagine where uncc is gonna be next year lmfao

(04-23-2014 11:15 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  South Alabama lost to a #21 FCS ranked Southern Utah.

5 of App's loses came by way of:
#8 Montana
#19 Samford
#22 Furman
#23 Chattanooga
#24 Charleston Southern

I think this proves your point though that you can't really base a teams strength off of 1 game. However I think theres a chance that USA loses at least 2 of the 5 games above.

We will all see how this plays in a few months once we finally get on the field!

Not likely. There's a lot that happened after that game with the emergence of a true starting quarterback. The Jags went from losing on a last second field goal to handing Tulane their only home loss (excluding the New Orleans Bowl) of the year the next week, and arguably playing the best football in the league at year's end.

South Alabama in at #86. We'll see about that.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/bl...13109.post