Ph.d Ryan Brewer at Purdue University does an business valuation analysis on a CFB teams (analogous, to what you would do before buying a business), he's been doing this since 2008, here's his 2014 valuation for each team in FBS.

2014 Valuation

1. Texas $875 million
2. Notre Dame $811.5 million
3. Michigan $685.5 million
4. Ohio State $674.8 million
5. Florida $660.8 million
6. Oklahoma $655.2 million
7. Alabama $640.1 million
8. Georgia $581.8 million
9. Auburn $537.6 million
10. LSU $529.8 million
11. Iowa $479.1 million
12. Nebraska $432.5 million
13. Wisconsin $406.4 million
14. Penn State $377.6 million
15. Southern California $342.3 million
16. Tennessee $340.4 million
17. South Carolina $331.6 million
18. Arkansas $315.1 million
19. Oregon $313.7 million
20. Washington $305.7 million
21. Texas A & M $299.8 million
22. Florida State $277.9 million
23. UCLA $246 million
24. Kansas State $243.4 million
25. Clemson $242.6 million
26. California Berkely $230.1 million
27. Texas Tech $229 million
28. Oklahoma State $218.5 million
29. Michigan State $212.9 million
30. Kansas $211.1 million
31. Virginia Tech $203.7 million
32. Arizona State $196.8 million
33. Georgia Tech $184.9 million
34. Mississippi $183.9 million
35. Miami of Florida $180.8 million
36. Minnesota $179.7 million
37. Kentucky $162.9 million
38. Colorado $160.9 million
39. Utah $157.2 million
40. Northwestern $154.5 million
41. Iowa State $152.1 million
42. Oregon State $150 million
43. Stanford $146.4 million
44. North Carolina $131.8 million
45. West Virginia $130.1 million
46. Indiana $125.8 million
47. North Carolina State $119.3 million
48. Purdue $114.6 million
49. Syracuse $105.7 million
50. Miss State $102 million
51. Washington State $101.5 million
52. South Florida $100.3 million
53. Missouri $98.5 million
54. Arizona $97.9 million
55. Illinois $94.5 million
56. BYU $87.5 million
57. Baylor $85.9 million
58. UCONN $85.6 million
59. Boise State $79.6 million
60. Texas Christian $77.3 million
61. Boston College $74.3 million
62. Louisville $72.2 million
63. Central Florida $68.8 million
64. Maryland $66.2 million
65. Rutgers $63.3 million
66. Virginia $54 million
67. Vanderbilt $47.1 million
68. Army $44.7 million
69. Duke $44.7 million
70. Pitt $40 million
71. Cincinnati $36.9 million
72. Southern Methodist $33.6 million
73. Wake Forest $33.3 million
74. Temple $32 million
75. Fresno State $29.8 million
76. Hawaii $25.4 million
77. Colorado State $25.2 million
78. Memphis $25.1 million
79. Marshall $25 million
80. Houston $24.8 million
81. Wyoming $24.4 million
82. UTEP $24 million
83. San Diego State $23.1 million
84. Florida International $22.7 million
85. North Texas $22.1 million
86. East Carolina $21.3 million
87. Troy $20.1 million
88. Rice $20 million
89. San Jose State $18.9 million
90. Florida Atlantic $17.3 million
91. Middle Tennessee $16.9 million
92. UAB $16.1 million
93. Toledo $16 million
94. Ohio $15.7 million
95. Northern Illinois $15.5 million
96. Utah State $15.2 million
97. Western Michigan $15 million
98. Akron $14.9 million
99. Buffalo $14.7 million
100. Western Kentucky $14.1 million
101. New Mexico $13.9 million
102. Eastern Michigan $13.7 million
103. Southern Miss $12.9 million
104. Miami ? Ohio $12.8 million
105. Bowling Green $12.7 million
106. Central Michigan $12.5 million
107. New Mexico State $12.1 million
108. Kent State $12 million
109. UNLV $11.5 million
110. Ball State $11.2 million
111. Louisiana Lafayette $10.4 million
112. Nevada $10.3 million
113. Louisiana Tech $9.4 million
114. Idaho $8.6 million
115. Arkansas State $8.2 million
116. Louisiana Monroe $5 million

2014 Valuation

2011 Valuation

1. Texas $848.3 million
2. Georgia $483.6 million
3. Penn State $446.9 million
4. Florida $421.8 million
5. LSU $397.4 million
6. Michigan $393.5 million
7. Alabama $374.3 million
8. Auburn $359.4 million
9. Oklahoma $343 million
10. Tennessee $321.3 million
11. South Carolina $316.8 million
12. Ohio State $292.8 million
13. Nebraska $284.7 million
14. Texas A&M $245.9 million
15. Iowa $245.8 million
16. Michigan State $239.4 million
17. Arkansas $235.7 million
18. Oklahoma State $155.2 million
19. Wisconsin $153.3 million
20. Kentucky $152.5 million
21. West Virginia $141.2 million
22. Washington $136.2 million
23. Mississippi $136 million
24. Virginia Tech $134.2 million
25. Clemson $131 million
26. Minnesota $126.5 million
27. Colorado $122.7 million
28. Illinois $122 million
29. Arizona State $105.7 million
30. Oregon $102 million
31. North Carolina State $101.8 million
32. Texas Tech $100.4 million
33. Missouri $99.4 million
34. Arizona $93.2 million
35. Georgia Tech $85 million
36. Indiana $77.8 million
37. Oregon State $73.4 million
38. UCLA $66.1 million
39. North Carolina $65.2 million
40. Boise State $64.8 million
41. Iowa State $59.9 million
42. Kansas State $59.8 million
43. Cal Berkley $55.9 million
44. Purdue $55.5 million
45. Central Florida $53.8 million
46. Utah $44.8 million
47. Pittsburgh $44 million
48. Mississippi State $43.3 million
49. South Florida $38.9 million
50. Washington State $32.1 million
51. Louisville $30.4 million
52. Virginia $28.2 million
53. Wyoming $24.7 million
54. Florida State $23.6 million
55. Fresno State $23.1 million
56. UTEP $18.7 million
57. Cincinnati $15 million
58. Maryland $14.99 million
59. Kansas $14.9 million
60. Idaho $14.5 million
61. San Diego State $11.8 million
62. Eastern Michigan $9.1 million
63. San Jose State $6.9 million
64. Florida International $6.3 million
65. East Carolina $6.2 million
66. Troy $3.1 million
67. UAB $2.6 million
68. Louisiana Tech $2.3 million
69. Nevada $1.1 million
70. Bowling Green $876,287
71. Ohio $696,035
72. Arkansas State $0
73. Ball State $0
74. Central Michigan $0
75. Colorado State $0
76. Kent State $0
77. Marshall $0
78. Miami of Ohio $0
79. Middle Tennessee $0
80. Buffalo $0
81. Temple $0
82. Akron $0
83. UConn $0
84. Louisiana Lafayette $0
85. Louisiana Monroe $0
86. Memphis $0
87. New Mexico $0
88. North Texas $0
89. Southern Miss $0
90. Toledo $0
91. Western Kentucky $0
92. Western Michigan $0
93. Rutgers -$19
94. New Mexico State -$2.2 million
95. Houston -$4.3 million
96. Utah State -$7.1 million
97. UNLV -$13.1 million
98. Hawaii -$18.7 million
99. Florida Atlantic -$22.2 million
100. Northern Illinois -$32.3 million

2011 Valuation

Well they lost me with the Miss State over Missouri numbers...

(04-20-2014 11:47 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  Well they lost me with the Miss State over Missouri numbers...

Didn't Missouri just take out a $70 million loan for stadium upgrades? That has to be factored into the value. If you're acquiring a business, you're acquiring it's debt also.

(04-20-2014 12:05 PM)prp Wrote:  

(04-20-2014 11:47 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  Well they lost me with the Miss State over Missouri numbers...

Didn't Missouri just take out a $70 million loan for stadium upgrades? That has to be factored into the value. If you're acquiring a business, you're acquiring it's debt also.

Makes sense. Never considered the loan. Thanks for the info.

(04-20-2014 12:05 PM)prp Wrote:  

(04-20-2014 11:47 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  Well they lost me with the Miss State over Missouri numbers...

Didn't Missouri just take out a $70 million loan for stadium upgrades? That has to be factored into the value. If you're acquiring a business, you're acquiring it's debt also.

Maryland and Rutgers?

Another weird list. I'm not sure it includes debt or Maryland and Rutgers would be ranked lower than they are. It seems it is mostly based on profit. Obviously something missing from his formula - BC ranked higher than Louisville? Oregon State higher than WV?

Yea, this is BS

(04-20-2014 01:05 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  Another weird list. I'm not sure it includes debt or Maryland and Rutgers would be ranked lower than they are. It seems it is mostly based on profit. Obviously something missing from his formula - BC ranked higher than Louisville? Oregon State higher than WV?

Seems weird to me too.
USF is ranked higher than Mizzou, Arizona, TCU, and BYU
I don't know a lot about USF, but that seems odd.

It may not be entirely accurate but it clearly shows how the fish at the bottom have no business swimming in the same ocean as is. Something needs to change.

(04-20-2014 01:05 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  Another weird list. I'm not sure it includes debt or Maryland and Rutgers would be ranked lower than they are. It seems it is mostly based on profit. Obviously something missing from his formula - BC ranked higher than Louisville? Oregon State higher than WV?

I would actually think the opposite about both Maryland and Rutgers. If not for debt, I would expect them both a good 15 to 25 spots higher on the list. Louisville too is carrying huge debt, mostly on the football stadium. But, yeah, there are certainly some oddities on the list which don't line up with the common wisdom.

(04-20-2014 02:17 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It may not be entirely accurate but it clearly shows how the fish at the bottom have no business swimming in the same ocean as is. Something needs to change.

Really? If I look at Indiana and Ball State on here, they aren't in the same ocean but somehow Ball State beat them 3 times in a row in football. And will probably continue to beat them. And somehow NIU pummelled Purdue despite also having about 1/10th the valuation. The fact is that teams like Texas and Ohio State and maybe 18 others are in a different ocean than the other 110 FBS teams, including most of those in their own conference.

Is this sports, or some kind of stock market game?

(04-20-2014 02:17 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It may not be entirely accurate but it clearly shows how the fish at the bottom have no business swimming in the same ocean as is. Something needs to change.

Yeah, Tesla motors should be shut down because their revenue is not nearly the size of GM, Ford and Chrylser. There should be a higher tier category that allows only GM, Chrysler and Ford to compete and Tesla should be limited to a niche market.

Apple never should have been allowed to compete in the mobile market. Motorola and Nokia were perfectly good companies that had much larger revenues years ago. Ridiculous that Apple was allowed to do that.

And I think Tulane and Suwanee should be moved back to the top tier BCS since they were once there and their "highest level" status should have been "locked in" long ago. I would switch out Tulane and Suwanee with Florida State and Virginia Tech since FSU and Va Tech would never have progressed to the top tier had Suwanee and Tulane been "locked in".

Buffalo, UNLV, SDST & Hous look like good buys right now

Short Minnesota. State with low population growth, few athletes and too cold to attract Southern athletes that have good options in the South.

(04-20-2014 02:29 PM)prp Wrote:  I would actually think the opposite about both Maryland and Rutgers. If not for debt, I would expect them both a good 15 to 25 spots higher on the list. Louisville too is carrying huge debt, mostly on the football stadium. But, yeah, there are certainly some oddities on the list which don't line up with the common wisdom.

Actually debt on Papa Johns Cardinal Stadium is very low. Former Louisville baseball player Matt Helms did a study for a class. It is linked here

"In 2011 the balance sheet budgeted to bring in $18.3 million and spend $12.3 million. The 2011-2012 budget shows debt to be low, out of the $68.8 million of expenses; just $2.9 million is set aside for debt service (Veazey, 2011)."

(04-20-2014 02:44 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(04-20-2014 02:17 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It may not be entirely accurate but it clearly shows how the fish at the bottom have no business swimming in the same ocean as is. Something needs to change.

Yeah, Tesla motors should be shut down because their revenue is not nearly the size of GM, Ford and Chrylser. There should be a higher tier category that allows only GM, Chrysler and Ford to compete and Tesla should be limited to a niche market.

Apple never should have been allowed to compete in the mobile market. Motorola and Nokia were perfectly good companies that had much larger revenues years ago. Ridiculous that Apple was allowed to do that.

And I think Tulane and Suwanee should be moved back to the top tier BCS since they were once there and their "highest level" status should have been "locked in" long ago. I would switch out Tulane and Suwanee with Florida State and Virginia Tech since FSU and Va Tech would never have progressed to the top tier had Suwanee and Tulane been "locked in".

If you want to live in Malibu, you have to spend the money... same rules apply for FBS. Want to play with the big boys you have to rise up, and this includes lots of money. Just the way it is.

It's actually "Sewanee University" just for the record

(04-20-2014 02:03 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Yea, this is BS

Total BS!

It's not a coincidence that all of the P5 teams are on the top and all of the G5 teams are on the bottom. It's not a chicken/egg scenario, being in the P5 is a golden ticket. Even Wake Forrest, one of the worst football programs in the history of FBS, rates higher than ever G5 team with the exception of a few, mostly the ones recently demoted Big East leftovers. WF had the dumb luck of joining the ACC in 1953 and has benefited ever since.

So P5 fans, before you go patting yourselves on the back and talking about how this divide justifies your superiority over the G5, remember that this is a rigged system, these numbers aren't based on the actual value of the performance of the individual program but on the value of having the dumb luck of being in a conference that gets to print money.

(04-21-2014 07:57 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  It's not a coincidence that all of the P5 teams are on the top and all of the G5 teams are on the bottom. It's not a chicken/egg scenario, being in the P5 is a golden ticket. Even Wake Forrest, one of the worst football programs in the history of FBS, rates higher than ever G5 team with the exception of a few, mostly the ones recently demoted Big East leftovers. WF had the dumb luck of joining the ACC in 1953 and has benefited ever since.

So P5 fans, before you go patting yourselves on the back and talking about how this divide justifies your superiority over the G5, remember that this is a rigged system, these numbers aren't based on the actual value of the performance of the individual program but on the value of having the dumb luck of being in a conference that gets to print money.

Good points.

Interestingly, my alma mater (Cincinnati) fell 14 spots from the 2011 list. What changed? We were exiled to the G5. Most of the bottom feeder P5 schools leaped over us.