Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
Happy 4/20, er, I mean Easter
Author Message
Funslinger Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,339
Joined: Nov 2010
Reputation: 39
I Root For: Southern Miss
Location:
Post: #41
RE: Happy 4/20, er, I mean Easter
(04-21-2014 05:12 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Everyone is statistically an atheist. Self labeled atheists just go one god further.

If you can understand why you don't believe in Thor, Odin, Loki, Zeus, Brahma, or any of the other thousands of gods that preceded Yahweh, you'll know why atheist / agnostics don't believe in Christianity or it's god(s).

That's a great quote. I wish I'd thought of that.
04-21-2014 07:00 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Funslinger Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,339
Joined: Nov 2010
Reputation: 39
I Root For: Southern Miss
Location:
Post: #42
RE: Happy 4/20, er, I mean Easter
(04-21-2014 04:18 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(04-21-2014 12:45 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Logic and reason is the hip thing these days

"Logic" and "reason" are just as fallible as books handed down from our ancestors. I don't claim to be a Christian, or anything more than an agnostic, but if you think that the little syllogisms that man builds inside his own head are somehow superior to the Bible, Talmud, or Koran, then I'm afraid you're as mistaken as any other worshipper at any other false idol.

Not quite. Logic and reason are willing to adapt themselves to new evidence. Christianity goes out of its way to deny anything that may force it to change.
04-21-2014 07:03 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
MU ATO Offline
THE ONE AND ONLY
*

Posts: 10,685
Joined: Dec 2003
Reputation: 281
I Root For: MU, GCU, U of I
Location: Illinois now WV

Donators
Post: #43
RE: Happy 4/20, er, I mean Easter
Every year this same thread turns into the same ole discussion...

04-bolt
04-21-2014 07:41 PM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
nastybunch Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 8,243
Joined: Aug 2011
Reputation: 253
I Root For: Southern Miss
Location:
Post: #44
RE: Happy 4/20, er, I mean Easter
(04-21-2014 07:03 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(04-21-2014 04:18 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(04-21-2014 12:45 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Logic and reason is the hip thing these days

"Logic" and "reason" are just as fallible as books handed down from our ancestors. I don't claim to be a Christian, or anything more than an agnostic, but if you think that the little syllogisms that man builds inside his own head are somehow superior to the Bible, Talmud, or Koran, then I'm afraid you're as mistaken as any other worshipper at any other false idol.

Not quite. Logic and reason are willing to adapt themselves to new evidence. Christianity goes out of its way to deny anything that may force it to change.

Absolutions with man changes every year, God never changes, thus no need to change every time an absolution changes with man. With man, the world was once absolutely flat, and the sun rotated around the earth. I could go on and on...
04-21-2014 07:47 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
mathenis89 Offline
Sucks at NCAA Football 14

Posts: 4,670
Joined: Sep 2012
I Root For: WKU, Miami, OSU
Location: Bowling Green, KY
Post: #45
RE: Happy 4/20, er, I mean Easter
(04-21-2014 06:48 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(04-21-2014 02:42 PM)WhyIsTheRumGone Wrote:  
(04-21-2014 02:36 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(04-21-2014 02:32 PM)WhyIsTheRumGone Wrote:  I love how it's cool to openly mock Christianity and belittle Christians for their beliefs, but not OK to openly practice it and share your feelings about it (even in public.)

Those who feel the need to belittle Christains for their beliefs are usually the first to cry foul and jump on the "tolerance" bandwagon if someone belittles (for example) the gay community or Muslims.

I'm not saying I'm some devout Christian, but I certainly see the double standard here.

Was only a matter of time before the Christian Victim Complex made its appearance.

Call it what you will, but it's the truth. Christians are the only group that don't receive equal treatment & tolerance from the "equality & tolerance" crowd... and your post is just another example of it.

Hahahaha. [sarcasm]Yeah, right.[/sarcasm]. Gays and other groups still have a long way to go to get to a level equal to the equal treatment & tolerance that Christians get.

No no no! The most popular religion in America is being discriminated against! Christianity plays absolutely no role in stupid laws that get passed or try to get passed!

They play the victim and hypocrite so well.
04-21-2014 07:55 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
TruBlu Offline
2nd String
*

Posts: 337
Joined: Dec 2012
Reputation: 68
I Root For: MT, C-USA
Location:
Post: #46
RE: Happy 4/20, er, I mean Easter
I was once asked, "What one verse of scripture captures true Christianity?"

John 1:16
"And in God's fullness, we all have received, grace upon grace."

That's the Easter message in 11 words. There's profound wisdom in it, if you listen past all the religious noise and truly hear the message....you have been blessed. As have I, and the homeless, and the lost, and the dying, and the children, and the disabled, and the forgotten.

It's good news for a dark, cynical world.
04-21-2014 07:58 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
nastybunch Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 8,243
Joined: Aug 2011
Reputation: 253
I Root For: Southern Miss
Location:
Post: #47
RE: Happy 4/20, er, I mean Easter
(04-21-2014 07:58 PM)TruBlu Wrote:  I was once asked, "What one verse of scripture captures true Christianity?"

John 1:16
"And in God's fullness, we all have received, grace upon grace."

That's the Easter message in 11 words. There's profound wisdom in it, if you listen past all the religious noise and truly hear the message....you have been blessed. As have I, and the homeless, and the lost, and the dying, and the children, and the disabled, and the forgotten.

It's good news for a dark, cynical world.

Bingo!
04-21-2014 08:49 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
MUther Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 8,232
Joined: Jun 2002
Reputation: 628
I Root For: Marshall
Location:

CrappiesCrappies
Post: #48
RE: Happy 4/20, er, I mean Easter
I believe in God. I don't give a **** about religion. People always say they do things in God's name. What they mean is that they do it as their religion dictates they should. All the "you're going to hell" finger pointing between the different factions of the same religion, while practicing anything but tolerance, which is a core if not the core foundation of Christianity is just insane. The relationship with God should be a personal one and taught to those within your care, not preached to those who don't care.

Anyways, I just found it amusing that both "holidays" fell on the same day. Didn't mean to start a holy war.

PS... did you see where they asked those guys in Colorado to postpone the weed festival till after the religious holiday? Like they need to be mutually exclusive.
04-21-2014 10:07 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Funslinger Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,339
Joined: Nov 2010
Reputation: 39
I Root For: Southern Miss
Location:
Post: #49
RE: Happy 4/20, er, I mean Easter
(04-21-2014 07:41 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  Every year this same thread turns into the same ole discussion...

04-bolt

And every year some idiot starts it. Hello? It's a sports message board, not christiantalk.com.
04-21-2014 11:02 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Funslinger Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,339
Joined: Nov 2010
Reputation: 39
I Root For: Southern Miss
Location:
Post: #50
RE: Happy 4/20, er, I mean Easter
(04-21-2014 07:47 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(04-21-2014 07:03 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(04-21-2014 04:18 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(04-21-2014 12:45 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Logic and reason is the hip thing these days

"Logic" and "reason" are just as fallible as books handed down from our ancestors. I don't claim to be a Christian, or anything more than an agnostic, but if you think that the little syllogisms that man builds inside his own head are somehow superior to the Bible, Talmud, or Koran, then I'm afraid you're as mistaken as any other worshipper at any other false idol.

Not quite. Logic and reason are willing to adapt themselves to new evidence. Christianity goes out of its way to deny anything that may force it to change.

Absolutions with man changes every year, God never changes, thus no need to change every time an absolution changes with man. With man, the world was once absolutely flat, and the sun rotated around the earth. I could go on and on...

Yep. And when evidence revealed that it wasn't flat, logic and reason accepted that revelation. Many Christians refuse to accept what is slapping them in the face.
04-21-2014 11:04 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Fatalisk Offline
All American
*

Posts: 4,277
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 44
I Root For: Old Dominion
Location:
Post: #51
RE: Happy 4/20, er, I mean Easter
04-rock


04-22-2014 01:37 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Fatalisk Offline
All American
*

Posts: 4,277
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 44
I Root For: Old Dominion
Location:
Post: #52
RE: Happy 4/20, er, I mean Easter
Epic Applause


04-22-2014 01:42 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Fatalisk Offline
All American
*

Posts: 4,277
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 44
I Root For: Old Dominion
Location:
Post: #53
RE: Happy 4/20, er, I mean Easter
(04-21-2014 02:23 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(04-21-2014 12:46 PM)Eagleholic Wrote:  
(04-21-2014 12:45 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Logic and reason is the hip thing these days

Not in Washington DC.

Zing! You are definitely right on that one. We have sent all the Neaderthals to Washington.

A lot of research suggests Neanderthals had superior intellect to humans. I know you were speaking figuratively, but it's actually interesting. Google "Neanderthal intelligence."

To the Christians- 93% of the members of National Academy of Science are atheists. Given that the intelligentsia don't believe, why would God punish those who utilize the reasoning ability he granted?
(This post was last modified: 04-22-2014 02:10 AM by Fatalisk.)
04-22-2014 02:02 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Funslinger Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,339
Joined: Nov 2010
Reputation: 39
I Root For: Southern Miss
Location:
Post: #54
RE: Happy 4/20, er, I mean Easter
(04-22-2014 02:02 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  
(04-21-2014 02:23 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(04-21-2014 12:46 PM)Eagleholic Wrote:  
(04-21-2014 12:45 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Logic and reason is the hip thing these days

Not in Washington DC.

Zing! You are definitely right on that one. We have sent all the Neaderthals to Washington.

A lot of research suggests Neanderthals had superior intellect to humans. I know you were speaking figuratively, but it's actually interesting. Google "Neanderthal intelligence."

To the Christians- 93% of the members of National Academy of Science are atheists. Given that the intelligentsia don't believe, why would God punish those who utilize the reasoning ability he granted?

Speaking of the National Academy of Science:

The following quotation from H. J. Muller, "One Hundred Years Without Darwin Are Enough" explains the point.
"There is no sharp line between speculation, hypothesis, theory, principle, and fact, but only a difference along a sliding scale, in the degree of probability of the idea. When we say a thing is a fact, then, we only mean that its probability is an extremely high one: so high that we are not bothered by doubt about it and are ready to act accordingly. Now in this use of the term fact, the only proper one, evolution is a fact."
The National Academy of Science (U.S.) makes a similar point:
"Scientists most often use the word "fact" to describe an observation. But scientists can also use fact to mean something that has been tested or observed so many times that there is no longer a compelling reason to keep testing or looking for examples. The occurrence of evolution in this sense is fact. Scientists no longer question whether descent with modification occurred because the evidence is so strong."


What I don't understand is why so many Catholics deny the existence of evolution when the Catholic Church accepts it as fact. In a July 2004 statement endorsed by Cardinal Ratzinger, then president of the Commission and head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, later Pope Benedict XVI, now Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI, includes this paragraph:
"According to the widely accepted scientific account, the universe erupted 15 billion years ago in an explosion called the 'Big Bang' and has been expanding and cooling ever since. Later there gradually emerged the conditions necessary for the formation of atoms, still later the condensation of galaxies and stars, and about 10 billion years later the formation of planets. In our own solar system and on earth (formed about 4.5 billion years ago), the conditions have been favorable to the emergence of life. While there is little consensus among scientists about how the origin of this first microscopic life is to be explained, there is general agreement among them that the first organism dwelt on this planet about 3.5–4 billion years ago. Since it has been demonstrated that all living organisms on earth are genetically related, it is virtually certain that all living organisms have descended from this first organism. Converging evidence from many studies in the physical and biological sciences furnishes mounting support for some theory of evolution to account for the development and diversification of life on earth, while controversy continues over the pace and mechanisms of evolution."

Kenneth R. Miller a prominent Catholic scientist widely known for opposing Young Earth Creationism and Intelligent Design writes, concerning Emeritus pope Benedict XVI, that "The Holy Father's concerns are not with evolution per se, but with how evolution is to be understood in our modern world. Biological evolution fits neatly into a traditional Catholic understanding of how contingent natural processes can be seen as part of God's plan...a careful reading suggests that the new pope will give quarter neither to the enemies of spirituality nor the enemies of evolutionary science. And that's exactly as it should be.
(This post was last modified: 04-22-2014 04:18 AM by Funslinger.)
04-22-2014 03:50 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Montgomery Blazer Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 666
Joined: Nov 2013
Reputation: 18
I Root For: UAB
Location:
Post: #55
RE: Happy 4/20, er, I mean Easter
Marijuana and cocaine were used responsibly by Americans for decades; I think now is the time to re-legalize these drugs.

I do not support heroin legalization as I've seen firsthand the devastation that drug causes.
04-22-2014 08:05 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
fedale Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 579
Joined: Dec 2011
Reputation: 13
I Root For: MARSHALL
Location:
Post: #56
RE: Happy 4/20, er, I mean Easter
I don't get it...

You smoke weed on Easter and you're a heathen...

But you drink wine on Sunday and you're a follower of Christ?

Religion is weird.
04-22-2014 09:30 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
shiftyeagle Offline
Deus Vult
*

Posts: 14,617
Joined: Jan 2011
Reputation: 550
I Root For: Southern Miss
Location: In the Pass
Post: #57
RE: Happy 4/20, er, I mean Easter
(04-22-2014 09:30 AM)fedale Wrote:  I don't get it...

That's quite obvious.
04-22-2014 09:31 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
nastybunch Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 8,243
Joined: Aug 2011
Reputation: 253
I Root For: Southern Miss
Location:
Post: #58
RE: Happy 4/20, er, I mean Easter
It is only weird if you do not believe. He who will hear will hear, many will not.
04-22-2014 09:34 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
fedale Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 579
Joined: Dec 2011
Reputation: 13
I Root For: MARSHALL
Location:
Post: #59
RE: Happy 4/20, er, I mean Easter
(04-22-2014 09:31 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  
(04-22-2014 09:30 AM)fedale Wrote:  I don't get it...

That's quite obvious.


As someone who's been a member of a church for 6+ years, I get WHY people are religious... But I don't get why they decide to judge people who aren't. How many people have we heard stories of those being casted out from the church because they were divorced, committed adultery, turned gay, etc... What about forgiveness?

And furthermore the actions of religion are well documented in US history.

Slavery, women not having rights, gays not being able to get married... hell even not buying liquor on Sunday is because of religion.

So whenever Christians or Catholics scream their rights are being violated or they can't practice freedom of religion, it doesn't make sense to me.
(This post was last modified: 04-22-2014 09:40 AM by fedale.)
04-22-2014 09:37 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
VA49er Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 29,140
Joined: Dec 2004
Reputation: 985
I Root For: Charlotte
Location:
Post: #60
RE: Happy 4/20, er, I mean Easter
(04-22-2014 09:37 AM)fedale Wrote:  
(04-22-2014 09:31 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  
(04-22-2014 09:30 AM)fedale Wrote:  I don't get it...

That's quite obvious.


As someone who's been a member of a church for 6+ years, I get WHY people are religious... But I don't get why they decide to judge people who aren't.

Same thinking that goes into Atheist judging believers. Everyone judges, you just pick your poison.
04-22-2014 09:44 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2024 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2024 MyBB Group.