http://news.yahoo.com/birmingham-probes-...38655.html

Quote: Birmingham launched a probe Monday into an alleged hardline Muslim plot to take control of schools.





The city council said it had appointed a chief adviser to examine at least 200 complaints as the investigation widened to 25 schools from an initial four.

Concerns about how some of the 430 schools in the city were being run first emerged last year in a leaked anonymous letter which outlined how to implement what it called Operation Trojan Horse.

The letter, which credited the alleged plot with forcing a change of leadership at four schools, gave instructions on ousting and replacing uncooperative headteachers and school governors.

"We have an obligation to our children to fulfil our roles and ensure these schools are run on Islamic principles," the letter says.

"We... are on our way to getting rid of more headteachers and taking over their schools."

The letter continued: "You must remember this is a 'jihad' and as such all means possible to win the war is acceptable."

I don't know how this will all play out. Maybe the "leak" was from a disgruntled employee. However, 200 complaints may be significant.

I think this is worth following, since similar things happen in the US, from both Muslims and La Raza. Even as leftists deny it's possible cuz this is Murica.

The hardcore Muslims in the UK are downright scary.

The last time I was in London I saw a Sky News report on 'Muslim Zones' where thugs harassed people. The same report also talked about groups where men would meet and talk about how they need to cut the throats of certain teachers and how that was a good thing.

What's sad is these extremists are more a product of Western culture than Islamic. They hate the Western culture they live in, especially the young, and our Western liberals teach them how awful we are and how perfect their culture and 'old country' are. Most are shocked to find out that the Mid East is mostly a poverty stricken, poorly educated, shithole.

I think we'll eventually see the Brits get fed up with it and start driving them out of the country.

(04-15-2014 10:15 AM)Niner National Wrote:  I think we'll eventually see the Brits get fed up with it and start driving them out of the country.

That would be the EDL, English Defense League.

Like us, the Brits are too weak to do anything about it. It will continue there and it will happen here. Maybe one day we will pay enough attention to the real problems and stop dilly dallying around with the "war on drugs," gay marriage and NSA spying...but it will likely be too late at that point.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/edu...slims.html

Quote:Schools in Birmingham are illegally segregating pupils, discriminating against non-Muslim students and restricting the GCSE syllabus to “comply with conservative Islamic teaching”, an official report leaked to The Telegraph discloses.


Department for Education inspectors said that girls in a school at the centre of the so-called “Trojan Horse” plot were forced to sit at the back of the class, some Christian pupils were left to “teach themselves” and an extremist preacher was invited to speak to children.


The report, into three schools in the city, follows weeks of controversy over the alleged plot to “Islamise” secular schools in Birmingham and will lead to calls for intervention. The report focuses on Park View School and its sister schools, Golden Hillock and Nansen, the only primary of the three. Inspectors found that Park View practised forced and discriminatory sex segregation and has “restricted” GCSE subjects “to comply with conservative Islamic teaching”.


Core elements of the GCSE syllabus were missed out as “un-Islamic” and an extremist preacher with known al-Qaeda sympathies and anti-Semitic views was invited to speak with children. At Golden Hillock, there was discrimination against non-Muslims, the report found. Its handful of Christian students “have to teach themselves” in one GCSE subject after the teacher “concentrated on the students who were doing the Islamic course”.


At Nansen, Year 6 children, aged 10 and 11, received no teaching at all in the arts, humanities or music.

The document, classified “official-sensitive”, describes the results of inspections of the schools last month by officials from the DfE. All three are supposedly non-faith schools run by the Park View Educational Trust.

(04-15-2014 10:09 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  I don't know how this will all play out. Maybe the "leak" was from a disgruntled employee. However, 200 complaints may be significant.

I think this is worth following, since similar things happen in the US, from both Muslims and La Raza. Even as leftists deny it's possible cuz this is Murica.

Why would they need to take over public schools when the government will fund the building of their own schools (all whilst channeling the construction to Muslim contractors)?

This letter sounds suspiciously like the Protocols of the Elder of Zion, insofar as there's no assurance it's legitimate.

edit: these sound exactly like charter schools here... Birmingham probes Muslim takeover of schools 'plot' - Yahoo News

https://news.yahoo.com/birmingham-probes...38655.html Wrote:The allegations focus on a category of schools known as academies. Established from 2000 onwards, they are state-funded but are self-governing and independent of local authority control.

Bore said it was "part of the frustration" that the city council had no remit in the schools, which answer to the national Department for Education.

"We do not know who's on the governing body (of the schools)," he said.

(04-15-2014 10:15 AM)Niner National Wrote:  I think we'll eventually see the Brits get fed up with it and start driving them out of the country.

1. Demographically, I think it's too late for that. (~3m people, ~5% of the total population).
2. Politically, the "British" (what's left of them) are too soft and conflict-averse to try it.

(04-22-2014 02:36 PM)I45owl Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 10:09 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  I don't know how this will all play out. Maybe the "leak" was from a disgruntled employee. However, 200 complaints may be significant.

I think this is worth following, since similar things happen in the US, from both Muslims and La Raza. Even as leftists deny it's possible cuz this is Murica.

Why would they need to take over public schools when the government will fund the building of their own schools (all whilst channeling the construction to Muslim contractors)?

I think I understand your question, and I don't have a good answer for it.

All I can say is that the reports make it seem as if B'ham considers this to be a serious issue, and the investigation has moved forward and has identified events that are considered problematic.

(04-22-2014 04:31 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  All I can say is that the reports make it seem as if B'ham considers this to be a serious issue, and the investigation has moved forward and has identified events that are considered problematic.

It is a serious issue. I still have my doubts about the authenticity of the letter, but the direct funding of madrassas in this way and bullying of the non-muslims is deplorable and should not stand.

The Brits are being invaded.

List of Muslims in British politics:


Former British High Commissioner to Bangladesh Anwar ChoudhuryAbul Fateh – Diplomat and statesman.[319][320] He was the first Foreign Secretary of Bangladesh after independence in 1971.
Anwar Choudhury – The British High Commissioner for Bangladesh between 2004 and 2008. He was the first non-white British person to be appointed in a senior diplomatic post. He is currently the Director of International Institutions at the Foreign & Commonwealth Office[321]
Asif Ahmad – British Diplomat who served as the British Ambassador to Thailand from November 2010 until August 2012.[322] Since July 2013, he has been British Ambassador to the Philippines.[323]
Dr Halima Begum – Civil servant, international development manager and Director Education of East Asia at the British Council. She was previously first secretary for development at the Department for International Development (DIFD).[324]
Nahid Majid OBE – Civil servant, Chief Operating Officer of Regeneration Investment Organisation and Deputy Director within the Department for Work and Pensions.[325] She is currently the most senior British Bangladeshi Muslim woman in the civil service.
Rohema Miah – Independent policy adviser and former political advisor for the Labour Party between 1992 and 2005.[326]
Saleemul Huq – Scientist and Senior Fellow in the Climate Change Group at the International Institute for Environment and Development. In 2007, he was awarded the Burtoni Award for his work on climate change adaptation.[327]

Politics[edit]

Members of Parliament[edit]
Anas Sarwar – Labour MP for Glasgow Central
Khalid Mahmood – Labour MP for Birmingham Perry Barr[328]
Mohammad Sarwar – former Labour MP for Glasgow Central[329]
Rehman Chishti – Conservative MP for Gillingham and Rainham
Rushanara Ali – Labour MP, for Bethnal Green and Bow Labour Party constituency. First person of Bangladeshi origin to be elected to the House of Commons,[330] and one of first three Muslim women to be elected as an Member of Parliament.[331]
Sajid Javid – Conservative MP for Bromsgrove and current Economic Secretary to the Treasury[332]
Sadiq Khan – Labour MP for Tooting and current Shadow Secretary of State for Justice and Shadow Lord Chancellor[333]
Shahid Malik – Former MP for Dewsbury. He served as a Minister for International Development in Gordon Brown's government[334]
Shabana Mahmood – Labour MP For Birmingham Ladywood
Yasmin Qureshi – Labour MP for Bolton South East

Peers[edit]
Adam Hafejee, Lord Patel of Blackburn[335]
Amirali Alibhai, Lord Bhatia Life Peer[336]
Gulam Khaderbhoy, Lord Noon MBE – Life Peer, Businessman and Chancellor of the University of East London
Haleh, Baroness Afshar – Professor in Politics and Women's Studies at the University of York, England
Khalid, Lord Hameed – Chairman of Alpha Hospital Group, and chairman and chief executive officer of the London International Hospital.
Meral, Baroness Hussein-Ece – Liberal Democrat life peeress
Mohamed Iltaf, Lord Sheikh – Chairman of Conservative Muslim Forum
Nazir, Lord Ahmed – Crossbench life peer, formerly Labour[337]
Manzila Pola, Baroness Uddin – Labour Party life peer, community activist, and first Muslim and Asian to sit in the House of Lords.[338]
Qurban, Lord Hussain – Liberal Democrat life peer
Sayeeda Hussain, Baroness Warsi – Lawyer & British politician for the Conservative Party. Baroness Warsi is currently a member of the Cabinet.
Tariq Mahmood, Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon Life peer
Waheed, Lord Alli – Labour life peer
Zahida Manzoor, Baroness Manzoor – Liberal Democrat Baroness; former Legal Services Ombudsman; former Deputy Chair of the Commission for Racial Equality[339]

Members of the European Parliament[edit]
Bashir Khanbhai – Former Conservative MEP for East of England
Sajjad Karim MEP – born in Brierfield, Lancashire Sajjad qualified as a solicitor and started a number of successful lawyers practices before being elected as a Member of the European Parliament in 2007. He is the Conservative Legal Affairs Spokesman and sits on the Industry, Research and Engery Committee.
Syed Kamall – Conservative MEP for London

Mayors[edit]
Afzal Khan – solicitor and Labour Party politician. Former Lord Mayor of Manchester, currently Manchester City Council's Executive Member for Children's Services.
Lutfur Rahman – Cllr, Community activist, local Independent politician, who became the first directly elected Mayor of Tower Hamlets in 2010 and the first Bangladeshi leader of the council.[340]
Mohammed Ajeeb – former Lord Mayor of Bradford, and was the first Asian (Pakistani) Lord Mayor in the United Kingdom.[341]
Muhammad Abdullah Salique – mayor of the London Borough of Tower Hamlets from 2008 to 2009.[342]
Naveeda Ikram – Lord Mayor of Bradford. UK's first Muslim woman Lord Mayor.[343]
Naeem ul Hassan – Lord Mayor of Manchester 2013.[344]

Other[edit]
Anwara Ali – Cllr, Conservative Party councillor in Regent's Park, Cabinet member for health and well-being in Tower Hamlets and General practitioner in Spitalfields Practice.[345]
Bashir Ahmad – a former member of the Scottish National Party[346]
Bashir Maan – is a Pakistani-Scottish politician, businessman and writer[347]
Hanzala Malik – Labour MSP for Glasgow
Humza Yousaf – SNP Member of the Scottish Parliament for Glasgow and Minister for External Affairs and International Development[348]
Imran Ahmad Khan – is the President of the Transnational Crisis Project and an internationally recognised expert on transnational security[349][350]
Imran Hussain (barrister) – barrister and British politician for the Labour Party. Imran Hussain is currently the Deputy Leader of Bradford Council[351]
Maryam Khan – politician born in Manchester. She belongs to the Labour Party and has represented Longsight as a councillor since May 2006.[352]
Maya Ali – Cllr, Labour Party councillor in Westwood and solicitor.[266]
Mehboob Khan – The Leader of Kirklees Council, Chair of the Local Government Association, Safer Communities Board, Chair of the Association of West Yorkshire Authorities, Vice-chair of West Yorkshire Fire Authority and a non-executive director of the NHS[353]
Mohammad Asghar – is a Welsh politician, representing Plaid Cymru[354]
Mohammed Najib – Born in Kashmir, he was the first Asian Councillor in the history of Calderdale, a former Deputy Mayor of Calderdale and a former Leader of the Labour Group in Halifax.
Muhammad Abdullah Salique, Cllr – Labour Party member, Councillor for Bethnal Green North ward, Mayor of London Borough of Tower Hamlets for 2008/09 municipal year.[355]
Murad Qureshi – Labour Party politician, and Greater London Assembly Member.[356]
Cllr Nasim Ali – Labour Party politician, councillor in Regent's Park, Cabinet Member for Young People in Camden Council and former Mayor of Camden. In May 2003, at the age of 34, he became country's youngest ever mayor as well as the UK's first Bangladeshi and first Muslim mayor.[357]
Rabina Khan, Cllr – Labour Party politician, councillor in Shadwell, cabinet member for housing in Tower Hamlets London Borough Council, community worker and author of "Ayesha's Rainbow."[358]
Rania Khan – Independent politician, Cllr for Bromley-by-Bow and Cabinet member for culture and regeneration in Tower Hamlets London Borough Council. In 2006, at the age of 23, she was first elected as a councillor making her the youngest councillor in the country.[359]
Rohema Miah – Independent policy adviser and former political advisor for the Labour Party between 1992 and 2005.[326]
Salma Yaqoob – former leader of the left-wing Respect Party and a Birmingham City Councillor.[360]
Shiria Khatun, Cllr – Short listed mayoral Labour Party candidates in Tower Hamlets.[361]
Syeda Amina Khatun – MBE – Labour Party councillor for Tipton Green in the Sandwell Metropolitan Borough Council. She was the first Bangladeshi woman to be elected in the Midlands region in 1999.[44]
Tulip Siddiq – Labour Party councillor in Regent's Park and cabinet member for culture in Camden London Borough Council.[362]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Muslims

(04-15-2014 10:17 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  NSA spying...

If we won't defend the ******* Constitution, then we won't be worth saving.

At the end of the movie "Se7en", the Morgan Freeman character says offscreen (quoting from memory here) "Ernest Hemingway once wrote, 'The world is a fine place, and worth fighting for.' I agree with the second part." Somehow I thought of that when I read this:

(04-22-2014 08:30 PM)Smaug Wrote:  If we won't defend the ******* Constitution, then we won't be worth saving.

As far as "defending the Constitution" is concerned, we passed that exit a long, long time ago. I'm not sure that America can be "saved", anymore. But I still think it's worth trying to save.