Anyone know of another non-SEC school that has beaten both Mannings?

(04-15-2014 10:34 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 10:19 AM)Crazier Wrote:  There is an upside to playing Ole Miss and Tennessee. Just say we go undefeated in football with Tennessee and Ole Miss on the schedule. The playoff selection committee would have to consider us for a playoff spot. That is the best chance we would have at a NC. Not many cartel 5 teams are knocking down the doors to play AAC teams and the Tennessee and Ole Miss games will most likely be on national tv. Now we have top notch facilities and good coaching to go along with the national exposure. Coach Fuente is recruiting Mississippi heavily. These games benefit the football program. Tennessee and Ole Miss basketball will never be better than us in basketball.

Agreed ---

"The ACC has to consider a nine-game schedule given that the Big 12 and Pac-12 already have one and the SEC is considering it.

The ACC has an informal interest in perhaps partnering with the SEC or Big 12 in an “8 + 1” model....

We have to play these guys for football's sake. Who else in the P5 will give us home and homes that will draw this sort of interest (and much needed money) to the Memphis football program?

(04-15-2014 11:11 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Anyone know of another non-SEC school that has beaten both Mannings?

That's a difficult nexus to achieve.

How many non-conference schools played both?

I know that Payton only lost to Florida, Nebraska and Memphis in his college career, so unless Nebraska also beat Ole Miss, then the answer is no.

Why are we killing the OM AD for making ludicrously positive statements about his program? Our coaches and AD say stuff all the time that is insanely positive that likely isn't what they really believe.

Look, they already have Memphis for prime recruiting - playing or not playing them won't affect that. If we play them, we have a chance at beating them. If we play them, we put butts in the bleachers and dollars in Memphis. I just don't see that much reason NOT to play bigger programs in our area. The status quo is not getting us better. We won't lose high level bb prospects to the likes of Ole' Miss.
Just my opinion.

(04-15-2014 11:32 AM)FarFromHome Wrote:  Look, they already have Memphis for prime recruiting - playing or not playing them won't affect that. If we play them, we have a chance at beating them. If we play them, we put butts in the bleachers and dollars in Memphis. I just don't see that much reason NOT to play bigger programs in our area. The status quo is not getting us better. We won't lose high level bb prospects to the likes of Ole' Miss.
Just my opinion.

And if Memphis does, then we just take their coach.

(04-15-2014 11:21 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 11:11 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Anyone know of another non-SEC school that has beaten both Mannings?

That's a difficult nexus to achieve.

How many non-conference schools played both?

I know that Payton only lost to Florida, Nebraska and Memphis in his college career, so unless Nebraska also beat Ole Miss, then the answer is no.

Eli was undefeated against Florida (2-0) and Nebraska (1-0), so Memphis is the only college program to tame the Mannings. Although, Archie had his way with the Tigers (3-0).

(04-15-2014 08:39 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  Wrong. Kids want to play against the best. I love playing Ole Miss and Tennessee.

Neither team would qualify for that moniker

(04-15-2014 07:59 AM)tigers1125 Wrote:  “It’s our backyard, that’s how we look at Memphis,” Bjork said. “We like to be here as much as possible. That’s why we like the series with Memphis, both in football and basketball. So the more we can do up here the better, to bring big-time athletics to the city of Memphis.” In this morning's CA.

All the more reason NOT to play OM in either FB or BB for you idiots that complain we should play these teams that our coaches do NOT want to play.

I agree......completely. You may thank Tom Bowen for this new athletic arrangement. It's all about BB......OM is trying desperately to establish a respectable BB program and inroads into Memphis. This series should never have been initiated and should not be renewed. Apparently Bowen is more concerned about his relationship with Bjork than he is the best interests of the U. of M.

(04-15-2014 11:39 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 11:32 AM)FarFromHome Wrote:  Look, they already have Memphis for prime recruiting - playing or not playing them won't affect that. If we play them, we have a chance at beating them. If we play them, we put butts in the bleachers and dollars in Memphis. I just don't see that much reason NOT to play bigger programs in our area. The status quo is not getting us better. We won't lose high level bb prospects to the likes of Ole' Miss.
Just my opinion.

And if Memphis does, then we just take their coach.

Are you mental?

(04-15-2014 08:42 AM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 08:35 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 08:29 AM)80sTiger Wrote:  Huge huge mistake. No upside for us. We should never play any SEC team not called Florida or maybe UK.

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No upside at all. If we win (basketball), big deal. We beat ole miss. That's no better than beating southern miss. If we lose, then we don't hear the end of it from the black bear loonies. After our NIT loss to them in 2010, ole miss fans ate it up. They proclaimed they were the new basketball powerhouse in the mid south haha. It's a lose, lose. Big mistake

Agree. You guys are downplaying this-it could have long term serious consequences for our program. They are building a new basketball arena-look what it did for Nebraska this year.

Never give your competition any foothold in your market and they ARE our competition.

The only upside I can see from our side is earning a one time football payday and the emotional satisfaction of a football (albeit slim) win.

The costs far outweigh the benefits. I hope Bowen's friendship with the Black Bear AD did not factor into the agreement.

(04-15-2014 11:13 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 10:34 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 10:19 AM)Crazier Wrote:  There is an upside to playing Ole Miss and Tennessee. Just say we go undefeated in football with Tennessee and Ole Miss on the schedule. The playoff selection committee would have to consider us for a playoff spot. That is the best chance we would have at a NC. Not many cartel 5 teams are knocking down the doors to play AAC teams and the Tennessee and Ole Miss games will most likely be on national tv. Now we have top notch facilities and good coaching to go along with the national exposure. Coach Fuente is recruiting Mississippi heavily. These games benefit the football program. Tennessee and Ole Miss basketball will never be better than us in basketball.

Agreed ---

"The ACC has to consider a nine-game schedule given that the Big 12 and Pac-12 already have one and the SEC is considering it.

The ACC has an informal interest in perhaps partnering with the SEC or Big 12 in an “8 + 1” model....

We have to play these guys for football's sake. Who else in the P5 will give us home and homes that will draw this sort of interest (and much needed money) to the Memphis football program?

Ummm --- no one?

(04-15-2014 09:17 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 09:09 AM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  I didn't really have much of an issue with what Bjork had to say….until I read the part about him bringing big time athletics to the city of Memphis.

yea, that stuck out

it was obviously a not so thinly veiled shot at the difference in conferences, particularly in football

Yea, I also was ok with the article till I read the part of bringing big time athletics to the city of Memphis. Maybe a little shot of gamesmanship on Bjork's part? Oh well, just beat em and they'll be the one's sorry for renewing the series....GO TIGERS!!!!

Bingo!!! The Blackbears do have big time national football and baseball programs!!!

OBTW... Coach Rock needs to go after this year. He's had 5 years to build the baseball program and make the NCAA tournament and we're still not there!!!

(04-15-2014 09:55 AM)CKMcDan Wrote:  The unfortunate reality is that, in football & baseball, Ole Miss is "big-time athletics". Basketball, not so much.

(04-15-2014 12:02 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 11:13 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 10:34 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 10:19 AM)Crazier Wrote:  There is an upside to playing Ole Miss and Tennessee. Just say we go undefeated in football with Tennessee and Ole Miss on the schedule. The playoff selection committee would have to consider us for a playoff spot. That is the best chance we would have at a NC. Not many cartel 5 teams are knocking down the doors to play AAC teams and the Tennessee and Ole Miss games will most likely be on national tv. Now we have top notch facilities and good coaching to go along with the national exposure. Coach Fuente is recruiting Mississippi heavily. These games benefit the football program. Tennessee and Ole Miss basketball will never be better than us in basketball.

Agreed ---

"The ACC has to consider a nine-game schedule given that the Big 12 and Pac-12 already have one and the SEC is considering it.

The ACC has an informal interest in perhaps partnering with the SEC or Big 12 in an “8 + 1” model....

We have to play these guys for football's sake. Who else in the P5 will give us home and homes that will draw this sort of interest (and much needed money) to the Memphis football program?

Ummm --- no one?

Duh! Why do you think they do that? Out of the goodness of their heart? You guys are slow. This is a disaster waiting to happen. Why do you think Cal and Josh resisted this so hard and long?

(04-15-2014 07:59 AM)tigers1125 Wrote:  “It’s our backyard, that’s how we look at Memphis,” Bjork said. “We like to be here as much as possible. That’s why we like the series with Memphis, both in football and basketball. So the more we can do up here the better, to bring big-time athletics to the city of Memphis.” In this morning's CA.

All the more reason NOT to play OM in either FB or BB for you idiots that complain we should play these teams that our coaches do NOT want to play.

We have the privilege of watching Liberty Bowl level (6-6) football teams from the SEC every year in Memphis, so I don't exactly see how they bring anything different. Now, if OM brought a home game against LSU or Alabama to Memphis, then that's a different story. Those two programs are, indeed, big-time.

(04-15-2014 12:41 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 07:59 AM)tigers1125 Wrote:  “It’s our backyard, that’s how we look at Memphis,” Bjork said. “We like to be here as much as possible. That’s why we like the series with Memphis, both in football and basketball. So the more we can do up here the better, to bring big-time athletics to the city of Memphis.” In this morning's CA.

All the more reason NOT to play OM in either FB or BB for you idiots that complain we should play these teams that our coaches do NOT want to play.

We have the privilege of watching Liberty Bowl level (6-6) football teams from the SEC every year in Memphis, so I don't exactly see how they bring anything different. Now, if OM brought a home game against LSU or Alabama to Memphis, then that's a different story. Those two programs are, indeed, big-time.

Never happen. Why would a non mentally challenged person think that Bama or LSU would play OM in Memphis?

(04-15-2014 12:45 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 12:41 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 07:59 AM)tigers1125 Wrote:  “It’s our backyard, that’s how we look at Memphis,” Bjork said. “We like to be here as much as possible. That’s why we like the series with Memphis, both in football and basketball. So the more we can do up here the better, to bring big-time athletics to the city of Memphis.” In this morning's CA.

All the more reason NOT to play OM in either FB or BB for you idiots that complain we should play these teams that our coaches do NOT want to play.

We have the privilege of watching Liberty Bowl level (6-6) football teams from the SEC every year in Memphis, so I don't exactly see how they bring anything different. Now, if OM brought a home game against LSU or Alabama to Memphis, then that's a different story. Those two programs are, indeed, big-time.

Never happen. Why would a non mentally challenged person think that Bama or LSU would play OM in Memphis?

OM played UT in Memphis as an OM home game back in the 1990's. That being said, I was being facetious. OM would never give up an on-campus home game.

Yes- that was a newspaper quote troll.

Correct- Memphis affords them the opportunity to see big time basketball athletics- in the University of Memphis, as they already see big time athletic football, whenever Alabama and LSU and the like head to patch.

The fact that ole miss and ut are referenced here daily, and that whenever this discussion comes up it gets several pages, should tell you we should be playing them.

(04-15-2014 11:42 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 08:39 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  Wrong. Kids want to play against the best. I love playing Ole Miss and Tennessee.

Neither team would qualify for that moniker

I was referring to the SEC. Tenn, Mississippi and Miss St have long been our rivals in the SEC. Nothing was better than leading off the season against Mississippi in terms of generating revenue and excitement in the city. The idea that every prospect in the city does not know about UT, UM, or Ms St is ridiculous. There are 25 games on every weekend. The fact that we do not get BCS money is all the more reason we need to have 55,000 in the LB as often as we can, which only Louisville and the SEC have ever done.