Quote:WESTBURY, NY — A special police task force has been created to snoop in on property owners and make sure that they aren’t allowing guests to stay in their homes without government approval.

Homeowners in the Long Island community of Westbury (pop. 15,000) have had their private property rights abridged to the point where they cannot even make autonomous decisions about what happens inside their own homes.

The police “Housing Enforcement Unit” will abide by an “aggressive zero tolerance” policy for homeowners who allow so-called “illegal tenants” in their homes.

The cops will sweep through communities and conduct housing inspections “without notice.”

One resident, Perry Esposito, told a News-12 reporter that he doesn’t think its fair that his neighbors can take on a tenant to help them pay their exorbitant taxes, which can be in excess of $9,000.00 per year.

I can understand enforcing the zoning laws, but I really disagree with the no notice police inspections.

Evidently the Cops have run out of things to enforce. Westbury must be America's safest city.

EagleX will be here to tell us this is standard operation for America's Police State and we should all just get over it.

(03-30-2014 11:01 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  I can understand enforcing the zoning laws, but I really disagree with the no notice police inspections.

THIS.....

It's an over zealous hunt for illegals/questionaly documented immigrants, who are apparently packing multiple families into single family dwellings to the point that the other homeowners in the area complained to the village council, because their property rates were crashing while their taxes were skyrocketing to accommodate the population increase.

my sympathies to the people in westbury who's homes are quickly becoming worthless, but its definitely a violation of property rights.

but once again, it's not storm troopers or gulags.

(03-30-2014 09:09 PM)EagleX Wrote:  It's an over zealous hunt for illegals/questionaly documented immigrants, who are apparently packing multiple families into single family dwellings to the point that the other homeowners in the area complained to the village council, because their property rates were crashing while their taxes were skyrocketing to accomodate for the population increase.

my sympathies to the people in westbury who's homes are quickly becoming worthless, but its definitely a violation of property rights.

but once again, it's not storm troopers or gulags.

When I lived in NJ we used to say you can figure out how many Latinos are in a house by counting the basement windows and multiplying by ten.

(03-30-2014 09:09 PM)EagleX Wrote:  It's an over zealous hunt for illegals/questionaly documented immigrants, who are apparently packing multiple families into single family dwellings to the point that the other homeowners in the area complained to the village council, because their property rates were crashing while their taxes were skyrocketing to accomodate for the population increase.

my sympathies to the people in westbury who's homes are quickly becoming worthless, but its definitely a violation of property rights.

but once again, it's not storm troopers or gulags.

You know how you get to storm troopers and gulags.... One step at a time.

(03-30-2014 11:35 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-30-2014 09:09 PM)EagleX Wrote:  It's an over zealous hunt for illegals/questionaly documented immigrants, who are apparently packing multiple families into single family dwellings to the point that the other homeowners in the area complained to the village council, because their property rates were crashing while their taxes were skyrocketing to accomodate for the population increase.

my sympathies to the people in westbury who's homes are quickly becoming worthless, but its definitely a violation of property rights.

but once again, it's not storm troopers or gulags.

You know how you get to storm troopers and gulags.... One step at a time.

If history is any guide, you would need a bloody, armed revolution where a significant portion of the population -- specifically property and the church -- is wiped out. Any way you look at it, that's a bit more than a "step".

but the truth doesn't always fly in this forum, so lets go ahead and act like improperly shooting a crazy violent guy and overzealously looking for undocumented Mexicans are the immediate predecessors of the Stasi coming to America, or Kim Jung Un taking over the country tomorrow at lunch. Because, you know, that's totally possible.

If looking for illegal invaders is a bad thing then guess would support the police.
However Holder could care less and they are not being sought that much.
Little chance of them taking Holder's job or him worrying about how many it adds to
our medical payments or social payments. The closest the government people get
to seeing them is if they are home while they take care of their yard or cook them a meal.

(03-30-2014 11:35 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-30-2014 09:09 PM)EagleX Wrote:  It's an over zealous hunt for illegals/questionaly documented immigrants, who are apparently packing multiple families into single family dwellings to the point that the other homeowners in the area complained to the village council, because their property rates were crashing while their taxes were skyrocketing to accomodate for the population increase.

my sympathies to the people in westbury who's homes are quickly becoming worthless, but its definitely a violation of property rights.

but once again, it's not storm troopers or gulags.

You know how you get to storm troopers and gulags.... One step at a time.

This is a good example of when gov't doesn't do its job right (enforcing borders) the downstream response is even more problems.

I wonder how many people in Westbury consider themselves "tolerant," "open minded," "liberal," "Democrat," or "leftist".

(03-31-2014 07:32 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(03-30-2014 11:35 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-30-2014 09:09 PM)EagleX Wrote:  It's an over zealous hunt for illegals/questionaly documented immigrants, who are apparently packing multiple families into single family dwellings to the point that the other homeowners in the area complained to the village council, because their property rates were crashing while their taxes were skyrocketing to accomodate for the population increase.

my sympathies to the people in westbury who's homes are quickly becoming worthless, but its definitely a violation of property rights.

but once again, it's not storm troopers or gulags.

You know how you get to storm troopers and gulags.... One step at a time.

This is a good example of when gov't doesn't do its job right (enforcing borders) the downstream response is even more problems.

I wonder how many people in Westbury consider themselves "tolerant," "open minded," "liberal," "Democrat," or "leftist".

precisely.

the NY governor has tried repeatedly to pass some form of the DREAM act, and is undoubtedly choosing to execute the laws of NY as though DREAM was law, even though it isn't -- much like our supreme giver of law in the oval office. I guarantee you that attracts illegal/undocumented immigrants like the proverbial moth/flame.

so, the central government refusing to enforce immigration law, plus state government refusing to enforce immigration law, and what you get is local governments like westbury doing stupid sh!t because they're overwhelmed by hordes of people attracted to the refusal to faithfully execute the laws.

Pssst - showing that Conservatives don't care about skin color as the party of the working man is how we win big in 2014 & 2016.


Fighting bans against feeding homeless...

Supporting 4th amendment of all people, in all cases

Fighting woodstove bans

Supporting blacks when appropriate...

Fighting Obamacare mandates that hurt the poor...

Fighting Corporate Welfare

etc

(03-31-2014 10:56 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  Pssst - showing that Conservatives don't care about skin color as the party of the working man is how we win big in 2014 & 2016.


Fighting bans against feeding homeless...

Supporting 4th amendment of all people, in all cases

Fighting woodstove bans

Supporting blacks when appropriate...

Fighting Obamacare mandates that hurt the poor...

Fighting Corporate Welfare

etc

a federal law prohibiting local ordinances against feeding homeless people in a park would be much, much worse than the original problem; having hungry homeless people.

4th Amendment, Schmourth Amendment.

Cops to Inspect Homes Without Notice For Illegal Rentals





http://www.infowars.com/cops-to-inspect-...l-tenants/

(03-31-2014 12:05 PM)Smaug Wrote:  4th Amendment, Schmourth Amendment.

No notice doesn't mean the same thing as lacking probable cause.

Can this be abused? Of course.

Is it inherently a violation of the Constitution? No.

(03-31-2014 04:50 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 12:05 PM)Smaug Wrote:  4th Amendment, Schmourth Amendment.

No notice doesn't mean the same thing as lacking probable cause.

Can this be abused? Of course.

Is it inherently a violation of the Constitution? No.

"Words"... who's "counting" anymore anyway?

The Obama way - writing laws that can be "interpreted" anyway they see fit.