Why wouldn't the Big East add Dayton? Is Xavier blocking or against it? Who would be added with them if you had to add another school? I'd just might need to start following the Big East more if you added Dayton, and even more so if you added Detroit. Same question with St. Joes as asked about Dayton.

Dayton and St. Louis both should be considered. I wonder if Butler is feeling like an outsider?

(03-21-2014 03:08 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Dayton and St. Louis both should be considered. I wonder if Butler is feeling like an outsider?

You got Valpo, Dayton, Detroit, and St Louis all in the western area that would fit the description of most of the Big East (minus NE geographically). Any others in the area of Butler/Creighton?

Im against St. Louis AND Dayton because then it would be 5 east and 7 midwest schools and I thought this was the Big EAST conference. Must add another eastern school.

(03-21-2014 07:12 PM)darkdragon99 Wrote:  Im against St. Louis AND Dayton because then it would be 5 east and 7 midwest schools and I thought this was the Big EAST conference. Must add another eastern school.

Well is the market thing really a problem for St Joseph? St Joes v Nova games would be epic. Dayton and St Joes would both add a lot to the conference.

Dayton is probably too good for the big east.

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I would like that too. When are we going to find out the conference goes to 12 teams?

Oh boy Dayton talk again? The big east doesn't need them. There's about 1000 posts on this topic on the bigeast HolyLand message board site for those who want a full account. I can't post a link but you can find it without any trouble.

(03-21-2014 07:20 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 07:12 PM)darkdragon99 Wrote:  Im against St. Louis AND Dayton because then it would be 5 east and 7 midwest schools and I thought this was the Big EAST conference. Must add another eastern school.

Well is the market thing really a problem for St Joseph? St Joes v Nova games would be epic. Dayton and St Joes would both add a lot to the conference.

I agree with you 100%, but take it from someone who has experienced this type of thing for a long time when Temple was trying to get into the BE, as long as Villanova is in the Big East and has the backing of the other BE legacy members like Providence, G’Town, St. Johns ect you will never see St Joes or any other Philly team in the Big East with Villanova no matter how good it may be for the conference.

Duplication of markets that would not add enough to the TV contract they currently have.

They are "happy" at ten. However, if an invite was extended, we would jump on it. Many people in the Dayton community believe we belong in the Big East.

(03-23-2014 10:35 PM)Flying Bearcat Wrote:  They are "happy" at ten. However, if an invite was extended, we would jump on it. Many people in the Dayton community believe we belong in the Big East.

The A10 is a stronger basketball conference now anyway. The only reason to leave is for TV revenue. The Big East is losing coaches over their TV contract, however, so it may not even be worth the money.

(03-24-2014 10:27 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(03-23-2014 10:35 PM)Flying Bearcat Wrote:  They are "happy" at ten. However, if an invite was extended, we would jump on it. Many people in the Dayton community believe we belong in the Big East.

The A10 is a stronger basketball conference now anyway. The only reason to leave is for TV revenue. The Big East is losing coaches over their TV contract, however, so it may not even be worth the money.

The Big East's 6th place team pays its coach $3 million a year, and they're about to sign Ben Howland... so Marquette's coaching situation will have improved... (and Buzz is a good coach)...

Interesting that supposedly Howland is too expensive for them... and that the all 10 of the lowest rated games of the season involved Big East schools. I'm telling you, the TV situation is going to get coaches looking around.

All most people say is why isn't the flavor of the day in this conference. I personally think the Big East is fine although it would behove Fox to get FS1 into more homes and out of the sport tier package you have to buy to get the channel.

Most AAC numbnuts are saying the BE need to add more programs. That's crazy, Fox needs to get FS1 more access to TV screens so that fans can watch the games of teams currently in the conference. What the purpose of adding more teams when you can't watch the teams currently in the conference. Fix the current problem first then look to add programs later. Now of course if I was the Big East, I would make an exception for Wichita and Dayton because those are programs with deep basketball tradition and will spend money to maintain their programs.

(03-24-2014 10:27 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(03-23-2014 10:35 PM)Flying Bearcat Wrote:  They are "happy" at ten. However, if an invite was extended, we would jump on it. Many people in the Dayton community believe we belong in the Big East.

The A10 is a stronger basketball conference now anyway. The only reason to leave is for TV revenue. The Big East is losing coaches over their TV contract, however, so it may not even be worth the money.

which COACHES did we lose over the tv contract?

(03-24-2014 07:28 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  

(03-24-2014 10:27 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(03-23-2014 10:35 PM)Flying Bearcat Wrote:  They are "happy" at ten. However, if an invite was extended, we would jump on it. Many people in the Dayton community believe we belong in the Big East.

The A10 is a stronger basketball conference now anyway. The only reason to leave is for TV revenue. The Big East is losing coaches over their TV contract, however, so it may not even be worth the money.

which COACHES did we lose over the tv contract?

It has been fairly widely reported that Buzz Williams was unhappy with the exposure.

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(03-24-2014 07:29 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(03-24-2014 07:28 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  

(03-24-2014 10:27 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(03-23-2014 10:35 PM)Flying Bearcat Wrote:  They are "happy" at ten. However, if an invite was extended, we would jump on it. Many people in the Dayton community believe we belong in the Big East.

The A10 is a stronger basketball conference now anyway. The only reason to leave is for TV revenue. The Big East is losing coaches over their TV contract, however, so it may not even be worth the money.

which COACHES did we lose over the tv contract?

It has been fairly widely reported that Buzz Williams was unhappy with the exposure.

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im not sure i buy that but i did read it. still, if true, only 1 coach not coaches. im being picky but still.

(03-24-2014 07:33 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  

(03-24-2014 07:29 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(03-24-2014 07:28 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  

(03-24-2014 10:27 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(03-23-2014 10:35 PM)Flying Bearcat Wrote:  They are "happy" at ten. However, if an invite was extended, we would jump on it. Many people in the Dayton community believe we belong in the Big East.

The A10 is a stronger basketball conference now anyway. The only reason to leave is for TV revenue. The Big East is losing coaches over their TV contract, however, so it may not even be worth the money.

which COACHES did we lose over the tv contract?

It has been fairly widely reported that Buzz Williams was unhappy with the exposure.

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im not sure i buy that but i did read it. still, if true, only 1 coach not coaches. im being picky but still.

You're not being picky. He said losing coaches (plural) when only Buzz has left and he didn't say it was because of TV. That is speculation at best.

To be honest fox is not giving you all anything extra for anybody right now because they are losing a fortune on the big east so why would yall add anyone at all to split the pie with? The more mouths to feed means the less there is to split and if you keep shrinking the per team payouts you start to erode the need for anyone to join up when the time is truly right.