(03-11-2014 05:41 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-10-2014 06:30 PM)Bleeds_Purple Wrote:  With Idaho and New Mexico State in the league. I'm kind of surprised there has been no talk of adding Montana or North Dakota State football only for the 12th number?

I'd love to have NDSU. I'm just about the only one, apparently.

19,000 seat dome.
983 miles from the nearest full member of the Sun Belt, but on the upside, Jonesboro is more than 200 miles closer for them than Idaho.

(03-11-2014 05:51 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 05:41 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-10-2014 06:30 PM)Bleeds_Purple Wrote:  With Idaho and New Mexico State in the league. I'm kind of surprised there has been no talk of adding Montana or North Dakota State football only for the 12th number?

I'd love to have NDSU. I'm just about the only one, apparently.

19,000 seat dome.
983 miles from the nearest full member of the Sun Belt, but on the upside, Jonesboro is more than 200 miles closer for them than Idaho.

For football only, what's the issue? Every SBC member can get to Fargo with only 1 connection. USA for example will be flying to Harrisonburg for JMU (or rather, probably to DC and drive for 2 hours) or Springfield for Missouri State. For us, its a flight either way.

I'd rather have Missouri State to be sure, but NDSU is the best football program on the table. 'Jus saying.

And they're unlikely to bolt either.

(03-11-2014 03:34 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 03:27 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 03:06 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  I just can't see MWC ever inviting Idaho. Especially if they continue to play in the Kibbie Dome.

Idaho's only hope is for MWC to get raided and the prospects are pretty bleak given that no MWC fits the Pac-12's self-image and if Big XII goes west, its likely only BYU which is no help for Idaho.

Potentially New Mexico for the Big 12, if they ever could get their act together.

UNM is a Long way from a Big XII upgrade. I'd think they'd make a pass at SDSU and UNLV first.

IMO the Big XII does not want to be West of the central time zone. Looking for the Bearcats, and one of the Florida schools. I like South Florida because their market, and position near a heavy cluster of high quality players. Big XII schools could use that.

If it were me picking it would be Louisiana, and S Florida. If not the Cajuns then I would take both UCF and S Florida. The Big XII northern schools and W Virginia would all benefit from playing in Florida. Both Kansas teams, and Iowa state have very limited local talent. Exposure in Florida would be a huge benefit in recruiting.

(03-11-2014 06:04 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 05:51 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 05:41 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-10-2014 06:30 PM)Bleeds_Purple Wrote:  With Idaho and New Mexico State in the league. I'm kind of surprised there has been no talk of adding Montana or North Dakota State football only for the 12th number?

I'd love to have NDSU. I'm just about the only one, apparently.

19,000 seat dome.
983 miles from the nearest full member of the Sun Belt, but on the upside, Jonesboro is more than 200 miles closer for them than Idaho.

For football only, what's the issue? Every SBC member can get to Fargo with only 1 connection. USA for example will be flying to Harrisonburg for JMU (or rather, probably to DC and drive for 2 hours) or Springfield for Missouri State. For us, its a flight either way.

I'd rather have Missouri State to be sure, but NDSU is the best football program on the table. 'Jus saying.

And they're unlikely to bolt either.

Connections don't matter, everyone charters for football, too hard to get 75-100 seats on a commercial airliner in one block.

Unlikely to bolt isn't a sales point to me. They fit MAC or MWC better than Sun Belt. If they were to just plop here and be happy for all time I'd think something was wrong with them.

(03-11-2014 07:25 PM)CajunExpress Wrote:  IMO the Big XII does not want to be West of the central time zone. Looking for the Bearcats, and one of the Florida schools. I like South Florida because their market, and position near a heavy cluster of high quality players. Big XII schools could use that.

If it were me picking it would be Louisiana, and S Florida. If not the Cajuns then I would take both UCF and S Florida. The Big XII northern schools and W Virginia would all benefit from playing in Florida. Both Kansas teams, and Iowa state have very limited local talent. Exposure in Florida would be a huge benefit in recruiting.

What fan of a G-5 conference member WOULDN'T pick their school to be one added to the Big XII? It'll never happen though. Not for any member of the SBC, MAC, MWC, AAC, or CUSA. BYU, Cincinnati and USF are the ONLY possibilities that will he considered by the Big XII. The rest of us have all been reclassified into the "Have Nots" Division of college athletics. That's just the way it worked out for us and there is absolutely nothing any of us can do about it. Once I accepted this as reality, I was able to think about the entire situation more sensibly. I have concluded that, in the end, there will be five G-5 conferences that make some kind of geographic sense. I think it'll bet more fun for all of us. The occasional upset victory over a P-5 conference member doesn't erase the pain of having your rear end handed to you by several others. At least it doesn't for me.

(03-12-2014 06:31 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 07:25 PM)CajunExpress Wrote:  IMO the Big XII does not want to be West of the central time zone. Looking for the Bearcats, and one of the Florida schools. I like South Florida because their market, and position near a heavy cluster of high quality players. Big XII schools could use that.

If it were me picking it would be Louisiana, and S Florida. If not the Cajuns then I would take both UCF and S Florida. The Big XII northern schools and W Virginia would all benefit from playing in Florida. Both Kansas teams, and Iowa state have very limited local talent. Exposure in Florida would be a huge benefit in recruiting.

What fan of a G-5 conference member WOULDN'T pick their school to be one added to the Big XII? It'll never happen though. Not for any member of the SBC, MAC, MWC, AAC, or CUSA. BYU, Cincinnati and USF are the ONLY possibilities that will he considered by the Big XII. The rest of us have all been reclassified into the "Have Nots" Division of college athletics. That's just the way it worked out for us and there is absolutely nothing any of us can do about it. Once I accepted this as reality, I was able to think about the entire situation more sensibly. I have concluded that, in the end, there will be five G-5 conferences that make some kind of geographic sense. I think it'll bet more fun for all of us. The occasional upset victory over a P-5 conference member doesn't erase the pain of having your rear end handed to you by several others. At least it doesn't for me.

Connecticut would be a possibility as well as Memphis.

(03-11-2014 06:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 03:34 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 03:27 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 03:06 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  I just can't see MWC ever inviting Idaho. Especially if they continue to play in the Kibbie Dome.

Idaho's only hope is for MWC to get raided and the prospects are pretty bleak given that no MWC fits the Pac-12's self-image and if Big XII goes west, its likely only BYU which is no help for Idaho.

Potentially New Mexico for the Big 12, if they ever could get their act together.

UNM is a Long way from a Big XII upgrade. I'd think they'd make a pass at SDSU and UNLV first.

laughable..no big 12 school would consider unm or sdsu or unlv a peer school suitable for an invite..not academics wise or sports wise..only way they consider those schools is if they were to lose a couple of schools and get in a panic..

(03-12-2014 08:43 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 06:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 03:34 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 03:27 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 03:06 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  I just can't see MWC ever inviting Idaho. Especially if they continue to play in the Kibbie Dome.

Idaho's only hope is for MWC to get raided and the prospects are pretty bleak given that no MWC fits the Pac-12's self-image and if Big XII goes west, its likely only BYU which is no help for Idaho.

Potentially New Mexico for the Big 12, if they ever could get their act together.

UNM is a Long way from a Big XII upgrade. I'd think they'd make a pass at SDSU and UNLV first.

laughable..no big 12 school would consider unm or sdsu or unlv a peer school suitable for an invite..not academics wise or sports wise..only way they consider those schools is if they were to lose a couple of schools and get in a panic..

Finally a sane voice.

Some of you need a history lesson with New Mexico and the Big 8/12.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/33840...tml?pg=all

(03-12-2014 08:14 AM)ARSTATEFAN1986 Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 06:31 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 07:25 PM)CajunExpress Wrote:  IMO the Big XII does not want to be West of the central time zone. Looking for the Bearcats, and one of the Florida schools. I like South Florida because their market, and position near a heavy cluster of high quality players. Big XII schools could use that.

If it were me picking it would be Louisiana, and S Florida. If not the Cajuns then I would take both UCF and S Florida. The Big XII northern schools and W Virginia would all benefit from playing in Florida. Both Kansas teams, and Iowa state have very limited local talent. Exposure in Florida would be a huge benefit in recruiting.

What fan of a G-5 conference member WOULDN'T pick their school to be one added to the Big XII? It'll never happen though. Not for any member of the SBC, MAC, MWC, AAC, or CUSA. BYU, Cincinnati and USF are the ONLY possibilities that will he considered by the Big XII. The rest of us have all been reclassified into the "Have Nots" Division of college athletics. That's just the way it worked out for us and there is absolutely nothing any of us can do about it. Once I accepted this as reality, I was able to think about the entire situation more sensibly. I have concluded that, in the end, there will be five G-5 conferences that make some kind of geographic sense. I think it'll bet more fun for all of us. The occasional upset victory over a P-5 conference member doesn't erase the pain of having your rear end handed to you by several others. At least it doesn't for me.

Connecticut would be a possibility as well as Memphis.

You're right about Connecticut. I forgot about them. I think its very unlikely that Memphis would be a viable candidate though.

(03-12-2014 01:18 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 08:14 AM)ARSTATEFAN1986 Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 06:31 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 07:25 PM)CajunExpress Wrote:  IMO the Big XII does not want to be West of the central time zone. Looking for the Bearcats, and one of the Florida schools. I like South Florida because their market, and position near a heavy cluster of high quality players. Big XII schools could use that.

If it were me picking it would be Louisiana, and S Florida. If not the Cajuns then I would take both UCF and S Florida. The Big XII northern schools and W Virginia would all benefit from playing in Florida. Both Kansas teams, and Iowa state have very limited local talent. Exposure in Florida would be a huge benefit in recruiting.

What fan of a G-5 conference member WOULDN'T pick their school to be one added to the Big XII? It'll never happen though. Not for any member of the SBC, MAC, MWC, AAC, or CUSA. BYU, Cincinnati and USF are the ONLY possibilities that will he considered by the Big XII. The rest of us have all been reclassified into the "Have Nots" Division of college athletics. That's just the way it worked out for us and there is absolutely nothing any of us can do about it. Once I accepted this as reality, I was able to think about the entire situation more sensibly. I have concluded that, in the end, there will be five G-5 conferences that make some kind of geographic sense. I think it'll bet more fun for all of us. The occasional upset victory over a P-5 conference member doesn't erase the pain of having your rear end handed to you by several others. At least it doesn't for me.

Connecticut would be a possibility as well as Memphis.

You're right about Connecticut. I forgot about them. I think its very unlikely that Memphis would be a viable candidate though.

Memphis completes the WVU, Cincy, Big XII bridge and places Big XII right in SEC and Big 10 country. That said, I think they would be more likely to take Houston with Cincy because Houston draws a better TV audience in football than any AAC outside Florida but you can't take a Florida without taking both because you create the same island issue that WVU has.

(03-12-2014 10:23 AM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  Some of you need a history lesson with New Mexico and the Big 8/12.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/33840...tml?pg=all

that was the big 8 thinking that those schools might make a good add 20 rears ago..not today's big 12...they probably would consider byu but byu comes with some baggage..back then ut and texas a-m were trying to shed the church schools and houston and rice..hence the move to the big 8..tech and baylor were only allowed to follow along due to behind the scenes shenanigans down in austin..

(03-12-2014 01:23 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 01:18 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 08:14 AM)ARSTATEFAN1986 Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 06:31 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 07:25 PM)CajunExpress Wrote:  IMO the Big XII does not want to be West of the central time zone. Looking for the Bearcats, and one of the Florida schools. I like South Florida because their market, and position near a heavy cluster of high quality players. Big XII schools could use that.

If it were me picking it would be Louisiana, and S Florida. If not the Cajuns then I would take both UCF and S Florida. The Big XII northern schools and W Virginia would all benefit from playing in Florida. Both Kansas teams, and Iowa state have very limited local talent. Exposure in Florida would be a huge benefit in recruiting.

What fan of a G-5 conference member WOULDN'T pick their school to be one added to the Big XII? It'll never happen though. Not for any member of the SBC, MAC, MWC, AAC, or CUSA. BYU, Cincinnati and USF are the ONLY possibilities that will he considered by the Big XII. The rest of us have all been reclassified into the "Have Nots" Division of college athletics. That's just the way it worked out for us and there is absolutely nothing any of us can do about it. Once I accepted this as reality, I was able to think about the entire situation more sensibly. I have concluded that, in the end, there will be five G-5 conferences that make some kind of geographic sense. I think it'll bet more fun for all of us. The occasional upset victory over a P-5 conference member doesn't erase the pain of having your rear end handed to you by several others. At least it doesn't for me.

Connecticut would be a possibility as well as Memphis.

You're right about Connecticut. I forgot about them. I think its very unlikely that Memphis would be a viable candidate though.

Memphis completes the WVU, Cincy, Big XII bridge and places Big XII right in SEC and Big 10 country. That said, I think they would be more likely to take Houston with Cincy because Houston draws a better TV audience in football than any AAC outside Florida but you can't take a Florida without taking both because you create the same island issue that WVU has.

DeLoss didn't want UH. They invited TCU specifically to get the Legislature off their backs with demands to invite UH. DeLoss is gone now.

UH makes more sense for the Big XII than Memphis. Better football and makes the Big XII more competitive in Texas' largest city, which is now, firmly, a SEC town.

(03-12-2014 08:43 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 06:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 03:34 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 03:27 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 03:06 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  I just can't see MWC ever inviting Idaho. Especially if they continue to play in the Kibbie Dome.

Idaho's only hope is for MWC to get raided and the prospects are pretty bleak given that no MWC fits the Pac-12's self-image and if Big XII goes west, its likely only BYU which is no help for Idaho.

Potentially New Mexico for the Big 12, if they ever could get their act together.

UNM is a Long way from a Big XII upgrade. I'd think they'd make a pass at SDSU and UNLV first.

laughable..no big 12 school would consider unm or sdsu or unlv a peer school suitable for an invite..not academics wise or sports wise..only way they consider those schools is if they were to lose a couple of schools and get in a panic..

I wasn't saying that the Big XII would take either. But just pointing out that if they went west and went to the MWC for those teams, that others would do more for the conference than UNM.

(03-12-2014 04:51 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 01:23 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 01:18 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 08:14 AM)ARSTATEFAN1986 Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 06:31 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  What fan of a G-5 conference member WOULDN'T pick their school to be one added to the Big XII? It'll never happen though. Not for any member of the SBC, MAC, MWC, AAC, or CUSA. BYU, Cincinnati and USF are the ONLY possibilities that will he considered by the Big XII. The rest of us have all been reclassified into the "Have Nots" Division of college athletics. That's just the way it worked out for us and there is absolutely nothing any of us can do about it. Once I accepted this as reality, I was able to think about the entire situation more sensibly. I have concluded that, in the end, there will be five G-5 conferences that make some kind of geographic sense. I think it'll bet more fun for all of us. The occasional upset victory over a P-5 conference member doesn't erase the pain of having your rear end handed to you by several others. At least it doesn't for me.

Connecticut would be a possibility as well as Memphis.

You're right about Connecticut. I forgot about them. I think its very unlikely that Memphis would be a viable candidate though.

Memphis completes the WVU, Cincy, Big XII bridge and places Big XII right in SEC and Big 10 country. That said, I think they would be more likely to take Houston with Cincy because Houston draws a better TV audience in football than any AAC outside Florida but you can't take a Florida without taking both because you create the same island issue that WVU has.

DeLoss didn't want UH. They invited TCU specifically to get the Legislature off their backs with demands to invite UH. DeLoss is gone now.

UH makes more sense for the Big XII than Memphis. Better football and makes the Big XII more competitive in Texas' largest city, which is now, firmly, a SEC town.

Big XII money would put UH on par with Baylor, TX Tech, and TCU which would have a tremendously negative effect on those three when it comes to recruiting in the city of Houston. They won't want UH in the Big XII, and more importantly, UT won't want them either. The only way UH would ever get in is if the Texas Legislature could force the issue, which I think is doubtful. Also, based solely on the people I know in Houston, Houston is every bit as much Big XII country as it is SEC country. It'll take more than a decent two year run by A&M to move that needle to the east.

(03-13-2014 06:30 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 04:51 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 01:23 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 01:18 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 08:14 AM)ARSTATEFAN1986 Wrote:  Connecticut would be a possibility as well as Memphis.

You're right about Connecticut. I forgot about them. I think its very unlikely that Memphis would be a viable candidate though.

Memphis completes the WVU, Cincy, Big XII bridge and places Big XII right in SEC and Big 10 country. That said, I think they would be more likely to take Houston with Cincy because Houston draws a better TV audience in football than any AAC outside Florida but you can't take a Florida without taking both because you create the same island issue that WVU has.

DeLoss didn't want UH. They invited TCU specifically to get the Legislature off their backs with demands to invite UH. DeLoss is gone now.

UH makes more sense for the Big XII than Memphis. Better football and makes the Big XII more competitive in Texas' largest city, which is now, firmly, a SEC town.

Big XII money would put UH on par with Baylor, TX Tech, and TCU which would have a tremendously negative effect on those three when it comes to recruiting in the city of Houston. They won't want UH in the Big XII, and more importantly, UT won't want them either. The only way UH would ever get in is if the Texas Legislature could force the issue, which I think is doubtful. Also, based solely on the people I know in Houston, Houston is every bit as much Big XII country as it is SEC country. It'll take more than a decent two year run by A&M to move that needle to the east.

LSU has more fans in metro Houston than Tech, Baylor, and TCU combined. Texas A&M has more fans than UT in metro Houston (oil and gas town and A&M is closer). UH fans loathe the Big XII.

(03-13-2014 09:57 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 06:30 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 04:51 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 01:23 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 01:18 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  You're right about Connecticut. I forgot about them. I think its very unlikely that Memphis would be a viable candidate though.

Memphis completes the WVU, Cincy, Big XII bridge and places Big XII right in SEC and Big 10 country. That said, I think they would be more likely to take Houston with Cincy because Houston draws a better TV audience in football than any AAC outside Florida but you can't take a Florida without taking both because you create the same island issue that WVU has.

DeLoss didn't want UH. They invited TCU specifically to get the Legislature off their backs with demands to invite UH. DeLoss is gone now.

UH makes more sense for the Big XII than Memphis. Better football and makes the Big XII more competitive in Texas' largest city, which is now, firmly, a SEC town.

Big XII money would put UH on par with Baylor, TX Tech, and TCU which would have a tremendously negative effect on those three when it comes to recruiting in the city of Houston. They won't want UH in the Big XII, and more importantly, UT won't want them either. The only way UH would ever get in is if the Texas Legislature could force the issue, which I think is doubtful. Also, based solely on the people I know in Houston, Houston is every bit as much Big XII country as it is SEC country. It'll take more than a decent two year run by A&M to move that needle to the east.

LSU has more fans in metro Houston than Tech, Baylor, and TCU combined. Texas A&M has more fans than UT in metro Houston (oil and gas town and A&M is closer). UH fans loathe the Big XII.

my friends and family in and around houston are all a-m fans..but with a-m gone to the sec, uh might not be a bad get for the big12..if they could parlay uh with byu, would make for pretty interesting sports scheduling and keep big12 from adding eastern schools that dont draw well or have many alumni in this part of the country..that would bring rivals to the houston area for games that people there would be more likely to come out and see in my opinion..

(03-13-2014 09:57 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 06:30 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 04:51 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 01:23 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 01:18 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  You're right about Connecticut. I forgot about them. I think its very unlikely that Memphis would be a viable candidate though.

Memphis completes the WVU, Cincy, Big XII bridge and places Big XII right in SEC and Big 10 country. That said, I think they would be more likely to take Houston with Cincy because Houston draws a better TV audience in football than any AAC outside Florida but you can't take a Florida without taking both because you create the same island issue that WVU has.

DeLoss didn't want UH. They invited TCU specifically to get the Legislature off their backs with demands to invite UH. DeLoss is gone now.

UH makes more sense for the Big XII than Memphis. Better football and makes the Big XII more competitive in Texas' largest city, which is now, firmly, a SEC town.

Big XII money would put UH on par with Baylor, TX Tech, and TCU which would have a tremendously negative effect on those three when it comes to recruiting in the city of Houston. They won't want UH in the Big XII, and more importantly, UT won't want them either. The only way UH would ever get in is if the Texas Legislature could force the issue, which I think is doubtful. Also, based solely on the people I know in Houston, Houston is every bit as much Big XII country as it is SEC country. It'll take more than a decent two year run by A&M to move that needle to the east.

LSU has more fans in metro Houston than Tech, Baylor, and TCU combined. Texas A&M has more fans than UT in metro Houston (oil and gas town and A&M is closer). UH fans loathe the Big XII.

Bet that tune would change in a hurry with an invite.

(03-13-2014 11:17 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 09:57 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 06:30 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 04:51 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 01:23 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Memphis completes the WVU, Cincy, Big XII bridge and places Big XII right in SEC and Big 10 country. That said, I think they would be more likely to take Houston with Cincy because Houston draws a better TV audience in football than any AAC outside Florida but you can't take a Florida without taking both because you create the same island issue that WVU has.

DeLoss didn't want UH. They invited TCU specifically to get the Legislature off their backs with demands to invite UH. DeLoss is gone now.

UH makes more sense for the Big XII than Memphis. Better football and makes the Big XII more competitive in Texas' largest city, which is now, firmly, a SEC town.

Big XII money would put UH on par with Baylor, TX Tech, and TCU which would have a tremendously negative effect on those three when it comes to recruiting in the city of Houston. They won't want UH in the Big XII, and more importantly, UT won't want them either. The only way UH would ever get in is if the Texas Legislature could force the issue, which I think is doubtful. Also, based solely on the people I know in Houston, Houston is every bit as much Big XII country as it is SEC country. It'll take more than a decent two year run by A&M to move that needle to the east.

LSU has more fans in metro Houston than Tech, Baylor, and TCU combined. Texas A&M has more fans than UT in metro Houston (oil and gas town and A&M is closer). UH fans loathe the Big XII.

Bet that tune would change in a hurry with an invite.

It would, but until that bid comes......Houston is a SEC first town. For whatever reason, UH fans blame UT and not TAMU for not getting invited to the Big XII (They really should blame Ann Richards who demanded that Baylor get the bid). They, rightly, see UT as blocking them now.