Quote:Today, 61% of Republicans and Republican leaners under 30 favor same-sex marriage while just 35% oppose it. By contrast, just 27% of Republicans ages 50 and older favor allowing gays and lesbians to marry.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/201...-marriage/

So you wait until he's banned to post something like this?

(03-10-2014 04:41 PM)gdunn Wrote:  So you wait until he's banned to post something like this?

I didn't know he was banned. No wonder it's been so quiet. What was he banned for?

It looks like he went over to the CUSA board, stalking one of the USM fans, and acted like he does on this board. He got sent away pretty quick.

(03-10-2014 04:35 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

Quote:Today, 61% of Republicans and Republican leaners under 30 favor same-sex marriage while just 35% oppose it. By contrast, just 27% of Republicans ages 50 and older favor allowing gays and lesbians to marry.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/201...-marriage/

This is just more proof that the left's indoctrination of young minds can't be stopped.

(03-10-2014 05:09 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(03-10-2014 04:35 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

Quote:Today, 61% of Republicans and Republican leaners under 30 favor same-sex marriage while just 35% oppose it. By contrast, just 27% of Republicans ages 50 and older favor allowing gays and lesbians to marry.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/201...-marriage/

This is just more proof that the left's indoctrination of young minds can't be stopped.

Actually, no, it's not. The whole point is that even young people that VOTE REPUBLICAN are absolutely and completely perplexed by the animosity of older people toward gay marriage. (I'm a little older than 30, but I'm in the same boat.) If that doesn't tell you that anyone trying to push an anti-gay-marriage agenda is going to go the way of the dodo bird quickly from a political perspective, then you're being willfully blind to anything outside of an increasingly narrow corner of this country. This issue is over and social conservatives lost on it. The less that social conservatives talk about it, the better the prospects for Republicans on the issues that they can actually win on (taxes, size of the government, the economy) will be.

It is the nails in the coffin on Christian culture being the societal influence on this country.

Christian culture (regardless of whether you agree with it or not), was supported by the Founding Fathers as the right type of culture for the government to succeed. It prevailed for the first 175 years of this nation, and allowed the US to be the dominant global power. The Founding Fathers, although many of whom were not Christian Converts themselves-- (although many were), including some of the more predominant names, we reference as influencing our constitution, in spite of being agnostics and/or deists, believed and argued that the Christian morality of the majority of the citizens is what would keep the government in check.

Regardless of what you thought of the real Jerry Falwell, he was right that there used to be a "moral" majority. It's what made the country into what it was.

Removing public prayer, and legalizing abortion had already put the corpse in the coffin. Gay marriage drives the nails into it. We're making the country into an apathetic, anything goes society. And we'll reap the "rewards" of being a non-factor (some argument could be made we already are) geopolitically.

(03-10-2014 05:58 PM)G-Man Wrote:  It is the nails in the coffin on Christian culture being the societal influence on this country.

Christian culture (regardless of whether you agree with it or not), was supported by the Founding Fathers as the right type of culture for the government to succeed. It prevailed for the first 175 years of this nation, and allowed the US to be the dominant global power. The Founding Fathers, although many of whom were not Christian Converts themselves-- (although many were), including some of the more predominant names, we reference as influencing our constitution, in spite of being agnostics and/or deists, believed and argued that the Christian morality of the majority of the citizens is what would keep the government in check.

Regardless of what you thought of the real Jerry Falwell, he was right that there used to be a "moral" majority. It's what made the country into what it was.

Removing public prayer, and legalizing abortion had already put the corpse in the coffin. Gay marriage drives the nails into it. We're making the country into an apathetic, anything goes society. And we'll reap the "rewards" of being a non-factor (some argument could be made we already are) geopolitically.

What do you mean by public prayer? Prayer being carried out by a public institution, or people praying in public? One of those two is perfectly okay.

I think he means the former. The latter remains perfectly legal (despite many attempts to stop it).

(03-10-2014 05:58 PM)G-Man Wrote:  It is the nails in the coffin on Christian culture being the societal influence on this country.

Christian culture (regardless of whether you agree with it or not), was supported by the Founding Fathers as the right type of culture for the government to succeed. It prevailed for the first 175 years of this nation, and allowed the US to be the dominant global power. The Founding Fathers, although many of whom were not Christian Converts themselves-- (although many were), including some of the more predominant names, we reference as influencing our constitution, in spite of being agnostics and/or deists, believed and argued that the Christian morality of the majority of the citizens is what would keep the government in check.

Regardless of what you thought of the real Jerry Falwell, he was right that there used to be a "moral" majority. It's what made the country into what it was.

Removing public prayer, and legalizing abortion had already put the corpse in the coffin. Gay marriage drives the nails into it. We're making the country into an apathetic, anything goes society. And we'll reap the "rewards" of being a non-factor (some argument could be made we already are) geopolitically.

No. You've been reading too much David Barton.

Our founding fathers chose a secular path for the country. Not a religious one.

Jerry Falwell was a clown, who did more to harm Christianity than he did to help the cause he was advocating.

Our society isn't 'anything goes' but rather a freedom based society where limits on freedom require something more than disapproval of some interpretations of a book.

(03-10-2014 06:21 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  I think he means the former. The latter remains perfectly legal (despite many attempts to stop it).

I was thinking that was the case. I'm not sure how public prayer can be justified given the way the supreme court has always interpreted the first amendment.

Removing public prayer, and legalizing abortion had already put the corpse in the coffin. Gay marriage drives the nails into it. We're making the country into an apathetic, anything goes society. And we'll reap the "rewards" of being a non-factor (some argument could be made we already are) geopolitically.
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No. You've been reading too much David Barton.

Our founding fathers chose a secular path for the country. Not a religious one.

Jerry Falwell was a clown, who did more to harm Christianity than he did to help the cause he was advocating.

Our society isn't 'anything goes' but rather a freedom based society where limits on freedom require something more than disapproval of some interpretations of a book.
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Well, not believing in that "book" is no concern to me if you're adamant about it. Look my friend whether you believe or not is not important we all will die at some point and you "WILL" find out whether those espousing it's contents were right or wrong. I'm a Christian so I don't think I have to tell you what side of that fence I'm on. So go ahead and keep thinking that you're this wise, open, free thinking individual. You'll find out soon enough. Unfortunately, you'll find out and you'll wish that you had listened.

There are many Christians on this site that have tried to no avail to let you see that you're wrong but you prefer not to. And that's where we've left you and it really doesn't matter at this point. WE all have free will and the consequences of not believing is your choice. We all will have an eternity, it just depends on you which eternity you choose.

(03-10-2014 05:58 PM)G-Man Wrote:  It is the nails in the coffin on Christian culture being the societal influence on this country.

Christian culture (regardless of whether you agree with it or not), was supported by the Founding Fathers as the right type of culture for the government to succeed. It prevailed for the first 175 years of this nation, and allowed the US to be the dominant global power. The Founding Fathers, although many of whom were not Christian Converts themselves-- (although many were), including some of the more predominant names, we reference as influencing our constitution, in spite of being agnostics and/or deists, believed and argued that the Christian morality of the majority of the citizens is what would keep the government in check.

Regardless of what you thought of the real Jerry Falwell, he was right that there used to be a "moral" majority. It's what made the country into what it was.

Removing public prayer, and legalizing abortion had already put the corpse in the coffin. Gay marriage drives the nails into it. We're making the country into an apathetic, anything goes society. And we'll reap the "rewards" of being a non-factor (some argument could be made we already are) geopolitically.

The US is still 78% Christian. I'm not sure what massive shift of religions you're referring to.

(03-10-2014 07:01 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Well, not believing in that "book" is no concern to me if you're adamant about it. Look my friend whether you believe or not is not important we all will die at some point and you "WILL" find out whether those espousing it's contents were right or wrong. I'm a Christian so I don't think I have to tell you what side of that fence I'm on. So go ahead and keep thinking that you're this wise, open, free thinking individual. You'll find out soon enough. Unfortunately, you'll find out and you'll wish that you had listened.

There are many Christians on this site that have tried to no avail to let you see that you're wrong but you prefer not to. And that's where we've left you and it really doesn't matter at this point. WE all have free will and the consequences of not believing is your choice. We all will have an eternity, it just depends on you which eternity you choose.

As someone who has wrestled with religion (as most people should if they've really thought about it), this is the worst possible response you could offer if you want anyone to actually consider what you have to say. At least you didn't end it with "I'll be praying for you."

I think Dixie was referring to other stuff when he made the comment.

(03-10-2014 05:22 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(03-10-2014 05:09 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(03-10-2014 04:35 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

Quote:Today, 61% of Republicans and Republican leaners under 30 favor same-sex marriage while just 35% oppose it. By contrast, just 27% of Republicans ages 50 and older favor allowing gays and lesbians to marry.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/201...-marriage/

This is just more proof that the left's indoctrination of young minds can't be stopped.

Actually, no, it's not. The whole point is that even young people that VOTE REPUBLICAN are absolutely and completely perplexed by the animosity of older people toward gay marriage. (I'm a little older than 30, but I'm in the same boat.) If that doesn't tell you that anyone trying to push an anti-gay-marriage agenda is going to go the way of the dodo bird quickly from a political perspective, then you're being willfully blind to anything outside of an increasingly narrow corner of this country. This issue is over and social conservatives lost on it. The less that social conservatives talk about it, the better the prospects for Republicans on the issues that they can actually win on (taxes, size of the government, the economy) will be.

Frank, I should have been more clear (consequences of typing on a phone)


30 or more years ago people didn't discuss abortions - the girl just went away can came back and no one ever knew. Today there's a clinic on every corner and killing babies is now disguised as "women's health." That's what 30+ years of indoctrination did.

30 or more years ago the gay uncle you might have was kept in the closet and everyone just referred to him as an oddball. Today your uncle is out of the closet, marching in parades, and demanding cakes from bakeries. That's what 30+ years of indoctrination did.

30 or more years ago we all had to say the Pledge in school, today it's optional. That's what 30+ years of indoctrination did.

30 or more years ago there was a nativity scene in most/many city halls. Today they're frowned upon. That's what 30+ years of indoctrination did.

30 or more years ago we only had a handful of true offensive words. Today there are far too many to list and that list is growing. That's what 30+ years of indoctrination did.

30 or more years ago people in this country illegally were referred to as illegal aliens. Today they're called undocumented immigrants, undocumented workers, and citizens of the future. That's what 30+ years of indoctrination did.

30 or more years ago people didn't want unemployment insurance, food stamps, and Welfare if they were able to work. Today that IS the form of work for far too many people and the left is fine with it. That's what 30+ years of indoctrination did.

30 or more years ago kiddie baseball teams had winners and losers. Today there are no losers and both teams win. That's what 30+ years of indoctrination did.

Ya have to give credit to the left - for decades they nibbled around the edges to make things that were once unacceptable acceptable.

(03-10-2014 07:21 PM)Hitch Wrote:  

(03-10-2014 07:01 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Well, not believing in that "book" is no concern to me if you're adamant about it. Look my friend whether you believe or not is not important we all will die at some point and you "WILL" find out whether those espousing it's contents were right or wrong. I'm a Christian so I don't think I have to tell you what side of that fence I'm on. So go ahead and keep thinking that you're this wise, open, free thinking individual. You'll find out soon enough. Unfortunately, you'll find out and you'll wish that you had listened.

There are many Christians on this site that have tried to no avail to let you see that you're wrong but you prefer not to. And that's where we've left you and it really doesn't matter at this point. WE all have free will and the consequences of not believing is your choice. We all will have an eternity, it just depends on you which eternity you choose.

As someone who has wrestled with religion (as most people should if they've really thought about it), this is the worst possible response you could offer if you want anyone to actually consider what you have to say. At least you didn't end it with "I'll be praying for you."

Hitch, maybe that's the problem. You're wrestling with "religion" don't go fighting it, just try making friends with Jesus.

Look, Hitch, I know where you're coming from. I won't say that I didn't love Jesus at an early age, I did. I just favored not to obey Him. I'd rather not follow because I'd rather do those things that I shouldn't. It was more fun. When Paul said that he was the king of sinners I hadn't been born yet otherwise he would have said, "oh boy, you got me there". I still sin of course but I'm not close to what I used to be. But I "know" that God forgives because "that" book told me he would. And I believe "that" book.

"God created man, man created religion."

Author unknown.

(03-10-2014 07:23 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I think Dixie was referring to other stuff when he made the comment.

i have the misfortune of knowing much longer than anyone else on this board.

he has consistently fingered gay marriage as a reason why those under 30 can't vote. his rationale behind it is (and i am paraphrasing here) "they have their priorities messed up by focusing on social issue's and not the economy."

remember this is the same dude who thinks macbook computers are "too liberal" for him

(03-10-2014 07:21 PM)Hitch Wrote:  

(03-10-2014 07:01 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Well, not believing in that "book" is no concern to me if you're adamant about it. Look my friend whether you believe or not is not important we all will die at some point and you "WILL" find out whether those espousing it's contents were right or wrong. I'm a Christian so I don't think I have to tell you what side of that fence I'm on. So go ahead and keep thinking that you're this wise, open, free thinking individual. You'll find out soon enough. Unfortunately, you'll find out and you'll wish that you had listened.

There are many Christians on this site that have tried to no avail to let you see that you're wrong but you prefer not to. And that's where we've left you and it really doesn't matter at this point. WE all have free will and the consequences of not believing is your choice. We all will have an eternity, it just depends on you which eternity you choose.

As someone who has wrestled with religion (as most people should if they've really thought about it), this is the worst possible response you could offer if you want anyone to actually consider what you have to say. At least you didn't end it with "I'll be praying for you."

As an aside, are you in Washington DC or Washington State? Both are pretty strange places but one is particularly strange around the sound in WA State.

I'm thinking of you. Thanks.

(03-10-2014 10:21 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(03-10-2014 07:23 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I think Dixie was referring to other stuff when he made the comment.

i have the misfortune of knowing much longer than anyone else on this board.

he has consistently fingered gay marriage as a reason why those under 30 can't vote. his rationale behind it is (and i am paraphrasing here) "they have their priorities messed up by focusing on social issue's and not the economy."

remember this is the same dude who thinks macbook computers are "too liberal" for him

I believe you meant to say, "those under 30 shouldn't vote".