(03-06-2014 02:54 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: There's no point. You just sit there and come to the conclusion that just because the person on the tape said something, the deception that lead to those comments doesn't matter. The editing doesn't matter.
And for a supposed legal mind like yourself, it's nothing but a lie on your part.
Hell, even Breitbart himself admitted that he was duped by Jimma.
You'd never defend something like this if it went against a Republican.
If the person on the tape made the comment, then it's hard to put at least some of the comments into any context where they aren't culpable.
I'd defend something like this, no matter who it went against, if the alleged flaws with it didn't go to anything substantive. That's my point about all this, I've read the criticisms of what O'Keefe did, but I've seen any criticisms that go to the substance of what was said by the ACORN, et al, people.
What I've seen are comments more like, since he wasn't really a pimp, then it was dishonest and doesn't matter. If the subject THOUGHT he was a pimp, then whether he was or not doesn't matter.
If someone could show me something that substantiated that the people on tape didn't actually say the things the tapes show them saying, or that the person talking about how to get the hooker deal done actually thought she or he was talking about the weather when they made those comments, then I'd say there's room for substantive criticism. If you have links to that kind of criticsim, please post. I'd like to read them.
For the record I have, by the way, discussed these specific points with O'Keefe on a couple of occasions. His feeling is like mine, that all the criticisms don't go to the substance of the allegations. If you can provide something to suggest otherwise, I will read it with an open mind. But the actions of ACORN and others in response to O'Keefe's work suggest that the contra arguments do not change the substance.