(03-06-2014 02:07 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  Which one would you rather have / think would sell more tickets?

Schedule A

Presbyterian
@Northwestern
@UNLV
@Arkansas
Kent
CMU
Miami
@EMU
@Ball State
Toledo
@Ohio
@WMU
MACC (Detroit - ESPN2)

Schedule B
Presbyterian
@Northwestern
@UNLV
@Arkansas
Cincinnati
East Carolina
USF
@Houston
@UCF
Navy
@Tulsa
@UConn
AAC (not Detroit - ABC)

The AAC title game is at the highest ranked teams home field.

One thing we must remember is the AAC plays on Friday nights so we would not be getting away from weeknights totally.

(03-06-2014 01:29 PM)sarasotahuskie Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 12:21 PM)ADOG05 Wrote:  Would a conference switch to say American Athletic Conference (AAC), get people to buy season tickets? I'm a season ticket holder and it would make me more likely to renew every year.

Curious to hear what teams in the AAC would get your blood boiling.

I would like to see NIU playing Cinci, UCF, Tulsa, Houston, SMU, Navy, Tulane, hell even Memphis and UConn over the majority of MAC teams. I would even consider buying men's basketball season tickets.

(03-06-2014 02:11 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 02:07 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  

The AAC title game is at the highest ranked teams home field.
One thing we must remember is the AAC plays on Friday nights so we would not be getting away from weeknights totally.

Exactly. If we hosted a conference championship at Huskie Stadium I am certain it would sell out. Even in the MAC I think that would be the case.

(03-06-2014 02:13 PM)ADOG05 Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 01:29 PM)sarasotahuskie Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 12:21 PM)ADOG05 Wrote:  Would a conference switch to say American Athletic Conference (AAC), get people to buy season tickets? I'm a season ticket holder and it would make me more likely to renew every year.

Curious to hear what teams in the AAC would get your blood boiling.

I would like to see NIU playing Cinci, UCF, Tulsa, Houston, SMU, Navy, Tulane, hell even Memphis and UConn over the majority of MAC teams. I would even consider buying men's basketball season tickets.

Exactly and that is the other side of it. The AAC has had 3 - 4 teams ranked in the Top 25 consistently all season in hoops. Football aside, hoops would be a substantial upgrade. Not to mention almost every one of their games is televised on an ESPN channel, real TV not ESPN3 internet. Hands down, its a big step up all around.

It does get stale to see the Akron's and Directional Michigan's of the world over and over. Yes I know that's what happens in conference season, you play most of the same teams repeatedly.

But it would be refreshing to go to a new conference and get new teams here in DeKalb.

As for basketball, I don't think we have the kind of team that can compete in the AAC, with attendance and quality of basketball, wouldn't a football only membership make it easier for us to get in?

Has there been any rumblings from anyone on the inside about a potential conference change? Are these conferences even seeking new members?

(03-06-2014 02:11 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 02:07 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  Which one would you rather have / think would sell more tickets?

Schedule A

Presbyterian
@Northwestern
@UNLV
@Arkansas
Kent
CMU
Miami
@EMU
@Ball State
Toledo
@Ohio
@WMU
MACC (Detroit - ESPN2)

Schedule B
Presbyterian
@Northwestern
@UNLV
@Arkansas
Cincinnati
East Carolina
USF
@Houston
@UCF
Navy
@Tulsa
@UConn
AAC (not Detroit - ABC)

The AAC title game is at the highest ranked teams home field.

One thing we must remember is the AAC plays on Friday nights so we would not be getting away from weeknights totally.

Crap! Oh well.....there goes that! I'd miss those games for obvious reasons!

(03-06-2014 02:16 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 02:13 PM)ADOG05 Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 01:29 PM)sarasotahuskie Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 12:21 PM)ADOG05 Wrote:  Would a conference switch to say American Athletic Conference (AAC), get people to buy season tickets? I'm a season ticket holder and it would make me more likely to renew every year.

Curious to hear what teams in the AAC would get your blood boiling.

I would like to see NIU playing Cinci, UCF, Tulsa, Houston, SMU, Navy, Tulane, hell even Memphis and UConn over the majority of MAC teams. I would even consider buying men's basketball season tickets.

Exactly and that is the other side of it. The AAC has had 3 - 4 teams ranked in the Top 25 consistently all season in hoops. Football aside, hoops would be a substantial upgrade. Not to mention almost every one of their games is televised on an ESPN channel, real TV not ESPN3 internet. Hands down, its a big step up all around.

Okay, my blood is boiling now thinking about it!

(03-06-2014 03:11 PM)Kansacity88 Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 02:11 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 02:07 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  Which one would you rather have / think would sell more tickets?

Schedule A

Presbyterian
@Northwestern
@UNLV
@Arkansas
Kent
CMU
Miami
@EMU
@Ball State
Toledo
@Ohio
@WMU
MACC (Detroit - ESPN2)

Schedule B
Presbyterian
@Northwestern
@UNLV
@Arkansas
Cincinnati
East Carolina
USF
@Houston
@UCF
Navy
@Tulsa
@UConn
AAC (not Detroit - ABC)

The AAC title game is at the highest ranked teams home field.

One thing we must remember is the AAC plays on Friday nights so we would not be getting away from weeknights totally.

Crap! Oh well.....there goes that! I'd miss those games for obvious reasons!

These schedules are a wash, the big improvements need to focus on the non-conference

(03-06-2014 11:26 AM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 11:04 AM)cartershaw Wrote:  This was brought up in another thread...

I was curious the reasons why people don't buy season tickets.

I can think of some reasons:
Kids
Kids activities
Time commitment
Financial
Live in another state
Weather for half the games is too cold
Don't want to go alone

For these reasons, I don't think who we play, when we play make a difference.. I am looking for reasons outside of this..

+1

You are absolutely correct. Programs with established, large, loyal fan bases show up...Anywhere & Anytime.

Outside of a few major BCS schools most FBS teams fight the same attendance issues....check the NCAA web site
As for having name schools coming to DeKalb (1) we can't afford to pay their asking price (2) they would rather limit their away games and have extra home games for the revenue (3). they have little to gain a nd lot's to lose if we beat them

And who said more fans would come...check out the attendance for the Kansas game..not good...Kansas is the type of team we perhaps induce to come to NIU so if that sin' a draw who else is left?

Fan support is needed NOW...not until notre dame arrives in DeKalb (never!!!)

be like cub fans who show up versus sox fans who only show up for a winner....showing up for home games is critical for our cash flow so fans that won't come because of the schedule are actually hurting the Huskies...
more attendance would increase the cash so

Finally those who criticize need to put some thought into the schedule difficulties that the AD has to battle and realize that it is not easy. BCS teams aren't exactly beating down the doors to come to DeKalb

(03-06-2014 02:14 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 02:11 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 02:07 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  

The AAC title game is at the highest ranked teams home field.
One thing we must remember is the AAC plays on Friday nights so we would not be getting away from weeknights totally.

Exactly. If we hosted a conference championship at Huskie Stadium I am certain it would sell out. Even in the MAC I think that would be the case.

Pipe dream ...let's focus on real possibilities...what did we draw for U Mass...about the same as Dartmouth ....Not Good!!

(03-06-2014 03:14 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  Finally those who criticize need to put some thought into the schedule difficulties that the AD has to battle and realize that it is not easy. BCS teams aren't exactly beating down the doors to come to DeKalb

No way , no how am I buy this pile of steamy crap. The time for excuses is over, Toledo is doing it, CMU has got MSU into their stadium. Other schools are very successful. Before we can say how difficult it is, we need to have a commitment to that, we have not had that commitment yet. It probably is not easy, but that is one of the jobs of an AD. We are cursed because we have AD's who know they will be gone in a few years and don't care about the growth of the program. Its a tough spot to be in. I think Korcek is absolutely right that you have to go after a different kind of hire, someone who is devoted to the university and long term growth.

(03-06-2014 03:21 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 03:14 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  Finally those who criticize need to put some thought into the schedule difficulties that the AD has to battle and realize that it is not easy. BCS teams aren't exactly beating down the doors to come to DeKalb

No way , no how am I buy this pile of steamy crap. The time for excuses is over, Toledo is doing it, CMU has got MSU into their stadium. Other schools are very successful. Before we can say how difficult it is, we need to have a commitment to that, we have not had that commitment yet. It probably is not easy, but that is one of the jobs of an AD. We are cursed because we have AD's who know they will be gone in a few years and don't care about the growth of the program. Its a tough spot to be in. I think Korcek is absolutely right that you have to go after a different kind of hire, someone who is devoted to the university and long term growth.

I figured you would respond with your usual reactionary comments....since you have all the answers go be an ad at some college ....Hawk Harrelson had all the answers for solving the white sox problems or thought he did ....look at the mess he left behind...
Has MSU actually played at Toledo yet? Just asking..
Oh by the what happened to our home game with Wisconsin? Ciao

(03-06-2014 03:21 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 03:14 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  Finally those who criticize need to put some thought into the schedule difficulties that the AD has to battle and realize that it is not easy. BCS teams aren't exactly beating down the doors to come to DeKalb

No way , no how am I buy this pile of steamy crap. The time for excuses is over, Toledo is doing it, CMU has got MSU into their stadium. Other schools are very successful. Before we can say how difficult it is, we need to have a commitment to that, we have not had that commitment yet. It probably is not easy, but that is one of the jobs of an AD. We are cursed because we have AD's who know they will be gone in a few years and don't care about the growth of the program. Its a tough spot to be in. I think Korcek is absolutely right that you have to go after a different kind of hire, someone who is devoted to the university and long term growth.

Name the schools that consistently get of home games with
BCS teams....probably not too many..but you have all the answers so you do the reaearch

(03-06-2014 03:32 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 03:21 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 03:14 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  Finally those who criticize need to put some thought into the schedule difficulties that the AD has to battle and realize that it is not easy. BCS teams aren't exactly beating down the doors to come to DeKalb

No way , no how am I buy this pile of steamy crap. The time for excuses is over, Toledo is doing it, CMU has got MSU into their stadium. Other schools are very successful. Before we can say how difficult it is, we need to have a commitment to that, we have not had that commitment yet. It probably is not easy, but that is one of the jobs of an AD. We are cursed because we have AD's who know they will be gone in a few years and don't care about the growth of the program. Its a tough spot to be in. I think Korcek is absolutely right that you have to go after a different kind of hire, someone who is devoted to the university and long term growth.

Name the schools that consistently get of home games with
BCS teams....probably not too many..but you have all the answers so you do the reaearch

Even in the MAC you have plenty of examples, Toledo has recently brought in Purdue and Boise State, CMU has Syracuse coming in, Miami-OH has Cincinatti coming in, Bowling Green has Indiana coming in. I didn't mean to sound frustrated, I just really get tired of all these excuses why everyone but us should be able to do this. My only point is, lets see if we can, lets make the attempt. We haven't had an AD here for 11 years that has been dedicated to that.

(03-06-2014 03:21 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 03:14 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  Finally those who criticize need to put some thought into the schedule difficulties that the AD has to battle and realize that it is not easy. BCS teams aren't exactly beating down the doors to come to DeKalb

No way , no how am I buy this pile of steamy crap. The time for excuses is over, Toledo is doing it, CMU has got MSU into their stadium. Other schools are very successful. Before we can say how difficult it is, we need to have a commitment to that, we have not had that commitment yet. It probably is not easy, but that is one of the jobs of an AD. We are cursed because we have AD's who know they will be gone in a few years and don't care about the growth of the program. Its a tough spot to be in. I think Korcek is absolutely right that you have to go after a different kind of hire, someone who is devoted to the university and long term growth.

MD, Please dont use CMU getting MI St as an example...that was forced to be by the MI state government.

CMU is getting Syracuse, Oklahoma St & Kansas in the next 5 seasons.


If we cant get better teams here because of money then Frazier needs to point blank tell us that so we the fans either pony up or shut up. Even better if we fund raise for a specific opponent from a group.

If teams flat out refuse to come to DeKalb for any excuse other than we are too good at home then we need to fix it so that excuse no longer exists... like the lack of a real visitor AD/president box, visiting coaches booth room, visiting locker room, visiting media room, local hotel for visiting team and dining options for the visiting team.

Michigan State played at CMU because the Michigan government made them.

The fact NIU has won 11+ games 4 years in a row and people still find something to ***** about is hilarious.

Go root for Toledo. Seriously. Have fun losing to NIU every year.

(03-06-2014 03:38 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 03:32 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 03:21 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 03:14 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  Finally those who criticize need to put some thought into the schedule difficulties that the AD has to battle and realize that it is not easy. BCS teams aren't exactly beating down the doors to come to DeKalb

No way , no how am I buy this pile of steamy crap. The time for excuses is over, Toledo is doing it, CMU has got MSU into their stadium. Other schools are very successful. Before we can say how difficult it is, we need to have a commitment to that, we have not had that commitment yet. It probably is not easy, but that is one of the jobs of an AD. We are cursed because we have AD's who know they will be gone in a few years and don't care about the growth of the program. Its a tough spot to be in. I think Korcek is absolutely right that you have to go after a different kind of hire, someone who is devoted to the university and long term growth.

Name the schools that consistently get of home games with
BCS teams....probably not too many..but you have all the answers so you do the reaearch

Even in the MAC you have plenty of examples, Toledo has recently brought in Purdue and Boise State, CMU has Syracuse coming in, Miami-OH has Cincinatti coming in, Bowling Green has Indiana coming in. I didn't mean to sound frustrated, I just really get tired of all these excuses why everyone but us should be able to do this. My only point is, lets see if we can, lets make the attempt. We haven't had an AD here for 11 years that has been dedicated to that.

Miami/UC is a historic rivalry.

(03-06-2014 03:47 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 03:38 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 03:32 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 03:21 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 03:14 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  Finally those who criticize need to put some thought into the schedule difficulties that the AD has to battle and realize that it is not easy. BCS teams aren't exactly beating down the doors to come to DeKalb

No way , no how am I buy this pile of steamy crap. The time for excuses is over, Toledo is doing it, CMU has got MSU into their stadium. Other schools are very successful. Before we can say how difficult it is, we need to have a commitment to that, we have not had that commitment yet. It probably is not easy, but that is one of the jobs of an AD. We are cursed because we have AD's who know they will be gone in a few years and don't care about the growth of the program. Its a tough spot to be in. I think Korcek is absolutely right that you have to go after a different kind of hire, someone who is devoted to the university and long term growth.

Name the schools that consistently get of home games with
BCS teams....probably not too many..but you have all the answers so you do the reaearch

Even in the MAC you have plenty of examples, Toledo has recently brought in Purdue and Boise State, CMU has Syracuse coming in, Miami-OH has Cincinatti coming in, Bowling Green has Indiana coming in. I didn't mean to sound frustrated, I just really get tired of all these excuses why everyone but us should be able to do this. My only point is, lets see if we can, lets make the attempt. We haven't had an AD here for 11 years that has been dedicated to that.

Miami/UC is a historic rivalry.

Whats next, Indiana wont come here because our bathrooms aren't as good as BG? I mean come on guys, excuses!

Its pretty obvious, that the reason we cant advance on the scheduling front is not just because of AD apathy, its fan apathy too, we don't demand better. I guarantee , NIU football is headed toward a dark period, you cant neglect scheduling this long and have it not hurt you. The first year NIU finishes 6-6 or 7-5 just watch attendance dive below 10k for the year. The only reason we are selling any tickets now is because of recent success. Once you take that away and there is no other reason to buy tickets, you are looking at a bleak bleak situation.

(03-06-2014 11:28 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 11:26 AM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 11:04 AM)cartershaw Wrote:  This was brought up in another thread...

I was curious the reasons why people don't buy season tickets.

I can think of some reasons:
Kids
Kids activities
Time commitment
Financial
Live in another state
Weather for half the games is too cold
Don't want to go alone

For these reasons, I don't think who we play, when we play make a difference.. I am looking for reasons outside of this..

+1

You are absolutely correct. Programs with established, large, loyal fan bases show up...Anywhere & Anytime.

You cant apply the Alabama model to NIU, the playbook is completely different. To live in this la la land that people should show up because they love the team, its a great idealistic thing, but not practical for any mid major.

I do, regardless of weather, day of game or opponent