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Disney wants openly gay Boy Scout leaders or no $$$$
If gays are attracted to men and it's ok for them to be Boy Scout leaders, then should it be ok for men who are attracted to females to be Girl Scout leaders?

Quote:The Boy Scouts of America are facing more fallout over their ban on openly gay leaders — this time from Walt Disney World, which has cut off funding through its employee volunteer program.

Robert Utsey, president of the Scouts' Central Florida Council, sent an email to scout leaders and parents this week saying the program's support of scouting, and the money that comes with it, were being discontinued.

"The National BSA [Boy Scouts of America] Council has reached out to WDW to try to resolve the situation, however, according to WDW, their views do not currently align with the BSA and they are choosing to discontinue this level of support," Utsey wrote.

The national organization voted last spring to allow openly gay youth scouts but decided to keep the ban on openly gay troop leaders. Several corporations have severed funding to the scouts as a result, including Lockheed Martin, Merck and UPS.

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They have too much power. They need to be put in their place by boycotting them. I'll be the first. 03-wink
03-04-2014 06:41 PM
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Gays, Disney, or the Boy Scouts?

Disney has the right to donate to organizations as they see fit. You are free to join the American Family Assn's 20 year old boycott of Disney.
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(03-04-2014 06:33 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  If gays are attracted to men and it's ok for them to be Boy Scout leaders, then should it be ok for men who are attracted to females to be Girl Scout leaders?

Quote:The Boy Scouts of America are facing more fallout over their ban on openly gay leaders — this time from Walt Disney World, which has cut off funding through its employee volunteer program.

Robert Utsey, president of the Scouts' Central Florida Council, sent an email to scout leaders and parents this week saying the program's support of scouting, and the money that comes with it, were being discontinued.

"The National BSA [Boy Scouts of America] Council has reached out to WDW to try to resolve the situation, however, according to WDW, their views do not currently align with the BSA and they are choosing to discontinue this level of support," Utsey wrote.

The national organization voted last spring to allow openly gay youth scouts but decided to keep the ban on openly gay troop leaders. Several corporations have severed funding to the scouts as a result, including Lockheed Martin, Merck and UPS.

http://touch.orlandosentinel.com/#sectio...-79476756/03-cloud9

I have said before I would NEVER want a man to be in charge of a Girl Scout troop because it's like putting gasoline near a fire. Something might happen something might not, but if it does it won't be good.

For that same reason gay men should not be Boy Scout leaders. This is not a gay man cannot teach scouting values (as long as he does not discuss sexuality) it's about an adult being in a position of authority where there could be a sexual attraction.
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(03-04-2014 07:49 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Gays, Disney, or the Boy Scouts?

Disney has the right to donate to organizations as they see fit. You are free to join the American Family Assn's 20 year old boycott of Disney.

I boycott Disney, not because of the gay thing, but because I think their theme parks are a rip off. Pay the $100+ admission price to stand in line and wait to do stuff, much more time waiting than you get to ride any attractions.
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How about 10% of the Boy Scout leaders volunteer to say that they could be gay.
Do it for the scouts.
Problem solved.
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Don't get in bed with Disney if you don't like the gay sex.
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(03-04-2014 08:14 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Don't get in bed with Disney if you don't like the gay sex.

Good double entendre.
Or could that actually be considered a triple.
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(03-04-2014 07:55 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  
(03-04-2014 07:49 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Gays, Disney, or the Boy Scouts?

Disney has the right to donate to organizations as they see fit. You are free to join the American Family Assn's 20 year old boycott of Disney.

I boycott Disney, not because of the gay thing, but because I think their theme parks are a rip off. Pay the $100+ admission price to stand in line and wait to do stuff, much more time waiting than you get to ride any attractions.

Isn't that the case with any amusement park?
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(03-04-2014 08:25 PM)Niner National Wrote:  
(03-04-2014 07:55 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  
(03-04-2014 07:49 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Gays, Disney, or the Boy Scouts?

Disney has the right to donate to organizations as they see fit. You are free to join the American Family Assn's 20 year old boycott of Disney.

I boycott Disney, not because of the gay thing, but because I think their theme parks are a rip off. Pay the $100+ admission price to stand in line and wait to do stuff, much more time waiting than you get to ride any attractions.

Isn't that the case with any amusement park?

Basically yes, but Disney has very long lines from what I hear, although I haven't been in more than two decades. I liked the days as Disney where each ride had a ticket value. Rides like Space Mountain were an E ticket and cost the most to ride. You bought tickets for the rides you wanted. It cost more, but helped thin the lines a little.
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women are allowed to act as scout leaders

so i never understood the "gays can't be scout leaders because they are attracted to men" argument
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(03-04-2014 09:04 PM)john01992 Wrote:  women are allowed to act as scout leaders

so i never understood the "gays can't be scout leaders because they are attracted to men" argument

Of course you understand why.
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(03-04-2014 09:25 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(03-04-2014 09:04 PM)john01992 Wrote:  women are allowed to act as scout leaders

so i never understood the "gays can't be scout leaders because they are attracted to men" argument

Of course you understand why.

are women not attracted to men as well?
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(03-04-2014 07:49 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Gays, Disney, or the Boy Scouts?

Disney has the right to donate to organizations as they see fit. You are free to join the American Family Assn's 20 year old boycott of Disney.

But heaven forbid they don't want to bake a cake for someone....
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(03-04-2014 07:49 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Gays, Disney, or the Boy Scouts?

Disney has the right to donate to organizations as they see fit. You are free to join the American Family Assn's 20 year old boycott of Disney.

So do the Koch brothers.
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(03-04-2014 10:49 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(03-04-2014 07:49 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Gays, Disney, or the Boy Scouts?

Disney has the right to donate to organizations as they see fit. You are free to join the American Family Assn's 20 year old boycott of Disney.

So do the Koch brothers.

There is an interest in keeping the money of the super rich from exercising undue influence in elections.

The impact of Citizens United has actually hurt the GOP though, as clown car primaries develop with candidates that have one backer.
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(03-04-2014 07:49 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Gays, Disney, or the Boy Scouts?

Disney has the right to donate to organizations as they see fit. You are free to join the American Family Assn's 20 year old boycott of Disney.

I agree. I do however understand the BSA not wanting gay
scout leaders. I see both sides as valid stances.

I suggest the homosexual population get together and pool their vast resources and form their own organization similar to the BSA. Of course that would involve actually getting their hands dirty and getting involved beyond simply setting goals to a pain in everyones ass. I am sure Disney would be happy to support both the traditional BSA and the new GSA.
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(03-04-2014 11:22 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(03-04-2014 07:49 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Gays, Disney, or the Boy Scouts?

Disney has the right to donate to organizations as they see fit. You are free to join the American Family Assn's 20 year old boycott of Disney.

I agree. I do however understand the BSA not wanting gay
scout leaders. I see both sides as valid stances.

I suggest the homosexual population get together and pool their vast resources and form their own organization similar to the BSA. Of course that would involve actually getting their hands dirty and getting involved beyond simply setting goals to a pain in everyones ass. I am sure Disney would be happy to support both the traditional BSA and the new GSA.

Your under the impression that they care to set up organizations which accomidate them and not in the fact they want to destroy people who disagree with them..
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(03-04-2014 11:59 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
(03-04-2014 11:22 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(03-04-2014 07:49 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Gays, Disney, or the Boy Scouts?

Disney has the right to donate to organizations as they see fit. You are free to join the American Family Assn's 20 year old boycott of Disney.

I agree. I do however understand the BSA not wanting gay
scout leaders. I see both sides as valid stances.

I suggest the homosexual population get together and pool their vast resources and form their own organization similar to the BSA. Of course that would involve actually getting their hands dirty and getting involved beyond simply setting goals to a pain in everyones ass. I am sure Disney would be happy to support both the traditional BSA and the new GSA.

Your under the impression that they care to set up organizations which accomidate them and not in the fact they want to destroy people who disagree with them..

Hardly.
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Just in time, as Nationwide Gay Pride Parade train has run out of steam.
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