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(02-28-2014 10:08 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Thanks SJ. Why Henry wasn't on Richmond the entire game is beyond me.

Richmond is so maneuverable around screens and runs his defender so hard I actually think some of these bigger defenders have a hard time keeping up or holding up all game conditioning wise. Henry did a good job but a lot of the bigger players them get caught up in picks or he tires them out. Richmond actually gave them both credit and said he had to work really hard to get shots last. Talked about having to run the baseline a lot more than normal in this game to pick Henry off.
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Good game, Charlotte. Y'all really put forth a great effort to come back in that game. It was an ugly, sloppy game that we would have lost had it not been for a heroic performance from Akeem Richmond.

I'm going to sincerely miss playing you... and hope that Compher and your AD work out a series where we can play at least every other year. Every year would be ideal! We need to win one at Halton......
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(02-28-2014 08:57 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
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(02-27-2014 10:24 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I'm just so happy for Keem to have such a great senior night. An all time great shooter and an all time great Pirate. His buzzer beater to win the CIT is one of the great memories I have in my time of watching Pirate hoops. He deserves it and congrats to him.

He's the most clutch players I've seen too. When we need a big shot or to ice it at the free throw line he's usually delivered. Even last night the turning point was at 61-60 and he buried a big 3 that really broke them. I think we will miss him a lot more than people think next year. He's a good a primary scorer as we have had.

He is extremely clutch, and for good or bad (and most of the time it's good) he has undying confidence in his ability to make a shot. He can miss 5 3's in a row and he will fire the next one up with as much confidence as if he's made 5 in a row. There are times he'll throw up a shot he probably shouldn't because of this, but he's such a good shooter he makes a lot of "bad shots." He's made so many of these circus 3's that they almost seem routine, but they really aren't. Those step back 27 footers he was making last night are crazy shots that you'd really never feel good about anyone taking, but I see him shoot it and think to myself that it's always got a decent chance of going in.

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(02-28-2014 10:24 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Good game, Charlotte. Y'all really put forth a great effort to come back in that game. It was an ugly, sloppy game that we would have lost had it not been for a heroic performance from Akeem Richmond.

I'm going to sincerely miss playing you... and hope that Compher and your AD work out a series where we can play at least every other year. Every year would be ideal! We need to win one at Halton......

I'm sure we'll continue playing. It only makes sense to. Minges looked pretty full on TV last night despite both our teams not being very good. It was definitely loud.
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Actually, I would say that ECU is pretty good. Playing with seven players and still beat us. That is good coaching. Lebo has taken lemons and made the best lemonade he possibly could. I don't think some of our fans realize the numbers they lost due to injury and a couple of defections. Lebo is able to build game plans to work with what he has. Major? Not so much. The stuff on niner nation ragging ECU for giving Lebo a contract extension is ridiculous. They obviously don't have a clue when it comes to the improvements and upward trend. I do believe we have lost to Lebo two of the last three times.
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Charlotte fans, question about Clayton, well a few. Is he type player to get easly flustered and angry? He spent a lot of time trying to draw charges, even having several flops that no one was buying, couldn't tell if was just something he does or if Major put focus on trying to get our guys in foul trouble. Which ever it was it made him much less effective on D.
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(02-28-2014 12:58 PM)queencityniner Wrote:  Actually, I would say that ECU is pretty good. Playing with seven players and still beat us. That is good coaching. Lebo has taken lemons and made the best lemonade he possibly could. I don't think some of our fans realize the numbers they lost due to injury and a couple of defections. Lebo is able to build game plans to work with what he has. Major? Not so much. The stuff on niner nation ragging ECU for giving Lebo a contract extension is ridiculous. They obviously don't have a clue when it comes to the improvements and upward trend. I do believe we have lost to Lebo two of the last three times.
You know we lost a lot too, right?

Mayfield was our leading scorer, Nickerson was inconsistent on offense, but provided us with pretty solid defense and a versatile wing, and Clark was a good physical presence.

I'm not taking anything away from ECU, but we lost a HUGE part of last year's team.

I think most of us underestimated the losses out of spite for the players before the season began, but their losses have been huge.

Mayfield, Clark, and Nickerson were very versatile defenders. They were all superb athletes and could guard guards and post players alike.
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I think you give him a little to much credit queenniner since we've had bad losses we had enough talent to win, but at least we are finishing the season strong. If we can get a couple more wins between these last two regular season games and the tourny, I think it's a fairly acceptable season all things considered at least. I expect we'll go back to defend the CIT championship so there is a little more room to put a decent finishing touch on the season and get to 20 wins.

Akeem is on paces to break two all time NCAA records held by Steph Curry and Steve Kerr and will need a two or three extra games to do it and this is likely the last time we will ever be able to go back to the CIT since it's more mid major geared and no other AAC teams have been playing in it so i do hope we play in it. Practice time alone would be valuable returning most of the team and with 3 transfers sitting out.
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(02-28-2014 01:23 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  Charlotte fans, question about Clayton, well a few. Is he type player to get easly flustered and angry? He spent a lot of time trying to draw charges, even having several flops that no one was buying, couldn't tell if was just something he does or if Major put focus on trying to get our guys in foul trouble. Which ever it was it made him much less effective on D.

I don't even know that he is trying to draw charges. He gets into foul trouble a lot so I think he just kinda stands there and tries to avoid playing physical defense to prevent fouling out.

He gets called for a lot of offensive fouls and has been T'd up a few times for swinging his elbows.
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(02-28-2014 01:23 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  Charlotte fans, question about Clayton, well a few. Is he type player to get easly flustered and angry? He spent a lot of time trying to draw charges, even having several flops that no one was buying, couldn't tell if was just something he does or if Major put focus on trying to get our guys in foul trouble. Which ever it was it made him much less effective on D.

I've watched him a lot. He throws elbows worse than about anyone I've ever seen. I think that alone has gotten him a reputation with refs that try to reel him in and are constantly focused on him both on offense and defense.
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(02-28-2014 01:25 PM)Niner National Wrote:  
(02-28-2014 12:58 PM)queencityniner Wrote:  Actually, I would say that ECU is pretty good. Playing with seven players and still beat us. That is good coaching. Lebo has taken lemons and made the best lemonade he possibly could. I don't think some of our fans realize the numbers they lost due to injury and a couple of defections. Lebo is able to build game plans to work with what he has. Major? Not so much. The stuff on niner nation ragging ECU for giving Lebo a contract extension is ridiculous. They obviously don't have a clue when it comes to the improvements and upward trend. I do believe we have lost to Lebo two of the last three times.
You know we lost a lot too, right?

Mayfield was our leading scorer, Nickerson was inconsistent on offense, but provided us with pretty solid defense and a versatile wing, and Clark was a good physical presence.

I'm not taking anything away from ECU, but we lost a HUGE part of last year's team.

I think most of us underestimated the losses out of spite for the players before the season began, but their losses have been huge.

Mayfield, Clark, and Nickerson were very versatile defenders. They were all superb athletes and could guard guards and post players alike.

What he was talking about, I think, is guys we thought we'd have back, Sampson, Armstrong (both left the team), Erin Straughn (injury), Guilmette (starter this year, went down early this year). All 6'6 or taller, Sampson 6'8, Armstong 6'10, Guilmette 6'10, Straughn 6'6.

If you include guys from last year, add Paul, Kemp, Bowden, and Gaines.
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(02-28-2014 01:34 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
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(02-28-2014 12:58 PM)queencityniner Wrote:  Actually, I would say that ECU is pretty good. Playing with seven players and still beat us. That is good coaching. Lebo has taken lemons and made the best lemonade he possibly could. I don't think some of our fans realize the numbers they lost due to injury and a couple of defections. Lebo is able to build game plans to work with what he has. Major? Not so much. The stuff on niner nation ragging ECU for giving Lebo a contract extension is ridiculous. They obviously don't have a clue when it comes to the improvements and upward trend. I do believe we have lost to Lebo two of the last three times.
You know we lost a lot too, right?

Mayfield was our leading scorer, Nickerson was inconsistent on offense, but provided us with pretty solid defense and a versatile wing, and Clark was a good physical presence.

I'm not taking anything away from ECU, but we lost a HUGE part of last year's team.

I think most of us underestimated the losses out of spite for the players before the season began, but their losses have been huge.

Mayfield, Clark, and Nickerson were very versatile defenders. They were all superb athletes and could guard guards and post players alike.

What he was talking about, I think, is guys we thought we'd have back, Sampson, Armstrong (both left the team), Erin Straughn (injury), Guilmette (starter this year, went down early this year). All 6'6 or taller, Sampson 6'8, Armstong 6'10, Guilmette 6'10, Straughn 6'6.

If you include guys from last year, add Paul, Kemp, Bowden, and Gaines.
None of our guys graduated. They left or were kicked off (Mayfield). Nickerson was 6'8 and Clark was 6'6, but he played PF and had damn near a 40" vertical so he was able to guard guys bigger than him while being athletic enough to defend against guards.

They didn't defect last minute like some of ECU's, so we had some time to try to replace them, but it is hard to get quality big men late in the recruiting cycle.

We have two true post players, so we're not much deeper than you guys in that regard.

I just hope we don't have any more guys defect after this season. It has been a common theme though the last few years. 03-banghead
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(02-28-2014 12:58 PM)queencityniner Wrote:  Actually, I would say that ECU is pretty good. Playing with seven players and still beat us. That is good coaching. Lebo has taken lemons and made the best lemonade he possibly could. I don't think some of our fans realize the numbers they lost due to injury and a couple of defections. Lebo is able to build game plans to work with what he has. Major? Not so much. The stuff on niner nation ragging ECU for giving Lebo a contract extension is ridiculous. They obviously don't have a clue when it comes to the improvements and upward trend. I do believe we have lost to Lebo two of the last three times.
Each team played eight players last night, and we have beaten ECU 2-1 in our last three games. Glad you are on our side. 03-confused
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(02-28-2014 02:17 PM)Niner National Wrote:  
(02-28-2014 01:34 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
(02-28-2014 01:25 PM)Niner National Wrote:  
(02-28-2014 12:58 PM)queencityniner Wrote:  Actually, I would say that ECU is pretty good. Playing with seven players and still beat us. That is good coaching. Lebo has taken lemons and made the best lemonade he possibly could. I don't think some of our fans realize the numbers they lost due to injury and a couple of defections. Lebo is able to build game plans to work with what he has. Major? Not so much. The stuff on niner nation ragging ECU for giving Lebo a contract extension is ridiculous. They obviously don't have a clue when it comes to the improvements and upward trend. I do believe we have lost to Lebo two of the last three times.
You know we lost a lot too, right?

Mayfield was our leading scorer, Nickerson was inconsistent on offense, but provided us with pretty solid defense and a versatile wing, and Clark was a good physical presence.

I'm not taking anything away from ECU, but we lost a HUGE part of last year's team.

I think most of us underestimated the losses out of spite for the players before the season began, but their losses have been huge.

Mayfield, Clark, and Nickerson were very versatile defenders. They were all superb athletes and could guard guards and post players alike.

What he was talking about, I think, is guys we thought we'd have back, Sampson, Armstrong (both left the team), Erin Straughn (injury), Guilmette (starter this year, went down early this year). All 6'6 or taller, Sampson 6'8, Armstong 6'10, Guilmette 6'10, Straughn 6'6.

If you include guys from last year, add Paul, Kemp, Bowden, and Gaines.
None of our guys graduated. They left or were kicked off (Mayfield). Nickerson was 6'8 and Clark was 6'6, but he played PF and had damn near a 40" vertical so he was able to guard guys bigger than him while being athletic enough to defend against guards.

They didn't defect last minute like some of ECU's, so we had some time to try to replace them, but it is hard to get quality big men late in the recruiting cycle.

We have two true post players, so we're not much deeper than you guys in that regard.

I just hope we don't have any more guys defect after this season. It has been a common theme though the last few years. 03-banghead

I fear it will be a trend through out college basketball, last year there were what over 400 transfers. There seems to an all time low in player loyalty to one school these days. Some years you'll lose that battle, some you'll win.
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(02-28-2014 06:53 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
(02-28-2014 02:17 PM)Niner National Wrote:  
(02-28-2014 01:34 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
(02-28-2014 01:25 PM)Niner National Wrote:  
(02-28-2014 12:58 PM)queencityniner Wrote:  Actually, I would say that ECU is pretty good. Playing with seven players and still beat us. That is good coaching. Lebo has taken lemons and made the best lemonade he possibly could. I don't think some of our fans realize the numbers they lost due to injury and a couple of defections. Lebo is able to build game plans to work with what he has. Major? Not so much. The stuff on niner nation ragging ECU for giving Lebo a contract extension is ridiculous. They obviously don't have a clue when it comes to the improvements and upward trend. I do believe we have lost to Lebo two of the last three times.
You know we lost a lot too, right?

Mayfield was our leading scorer, Nickerson was inconsistent on offense, but provided us with pretty solid defense and a versatile wing, and Clark was a good physical presence.

I'm not taking anything away from ECU, but we lost a HUGE part of last year's team.

I think most of us underestimated the losses out of spite for the players before the season began, but their losses have been huge.

Mayfield, Clark, and Nickerson were very versatile defenders. They were all superb athletes and could guard guards and post players alike.

What he was talking about, I think, is guys we thought we'd have back, Sampson, Armstrong (both left the team), Erin Straughn (injury), Guilmette (starter this year, went down early this year). All 6'6 or taller, Sampson 6'8, Armstong 6'10, Guilmette 6'10, Straughn 6'6.

If you include guys from last year, add Paul, Kemp, Bowden, and Gaines.
None of our guys graduated. They left or were kicked off (Mayfield). Nickerson was 6'8 and Clark was 6'6, but he played PF and had damn near a 40" vertical so he was able to guard guys bigger than him while being athletic enough to defend against guards.

They didn't defect last minute like some of ECU's, so we had some time to try to replace them, but it is hard to get quality big men late in the recruiting cycle.

We have two true post players, so we're not much deeper than you guys in that regard.

I just hope we don't have any more guys defect after this season. It has been a common theme though the last few years. 03-banghead

I fear it will be a trend through out college basketball, last year there were what over 400 transfers. There seems to an all time low in player loyalty to one school these days. Some years you'll lose that battle, some you'll win.

For every transfer that a kid made of his own decision there was probably a transfer where a coach made the decision for a kid, because the kid was not good enough in the coach's opinion. So it is not always about the kids loyalty to a school, it is also about coaches loyalty to kids that they recruit.
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