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RE: Back out West: @ UNT (2/13) & @ Tulsa (2/15)
(02-16-2014 10:18 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(02-16-2014 09:27 PM)paintedblue Wrote:  
(02-16-2014 09:19 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  Skerry brought in quality players nearly right away and Towson went from 1-31 to a winning record in 2 years.

Jeff jones has brought in no one of consequence (freeman was already headed here, I'm sure of that) in nearly a year.
Stop the madness.

Also, random thought, how god awful was anichebe that he wasn't even allowed to fill out a jersey for us????? We kept Anton, but anichebe couldn't stay?

I can't even imagine how bad he must have been that this team didn't need him or couldn't use him.


It may be a case that Anichibe was struggling in the classroom. I do not know this to be a fact, I'm only suggesting it might be a possible reason he did not stay around. We still don't have a lot of wiggle room in that area and from what I have read Anton is an excellent student.

If I understand APR correctly, getting rid of someone who is struggling in the classroom is riskier than keeping them around.



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Good point.
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Re: RE: Back out West: @ UNT (2/13) & @ Tulsa (2/15)
(02-16-2014 10:21 PM)Cr8n Wrote:  Who was JJ supposed to bring in instantly if he was recruiting for American? If we brought in a guy who only had offers from American wouldn't we all be upset?

Mark Gottfried brought in three McDonald's all Americans in his first class, he was not even coaching/recruiting the year before. This stuff about relationships and needing to forge them over years is largely b.s. The relationships are forged with high school and AAU coaches.

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RE: Back out West: @ UNT (2/13) & @ Tulsa (2/15)
Those years when you're not tied to a school is when you can do anything you want in evaluation of talent. Mark also is recruiting to an ACC school. Take a look at the in state ACC schools, it usually take time.

The Tulsa game did show our weakness in not having offensively minded bigs. BT recruited guys who could rebound and play D. JJ is looking for shooters and students. We should be able to recruit with the best of the CUSA teams, but it isn't happening overnight.
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RE: Back out West: @ UNT (2/13) & @ Tulsa (2/15)
Anachebe's "issues" were not academic related. If some of you experts here had attended some of his red-shirt year practices under Blaine you'd know why he was told he wouldn't be seeing much playing time if he'd stayed. The kid was literally lost and Blaine was constantly on his rear end about it. So in other words, he'd be behind Anton on the depth chart. So.....I really don't think we'll have much to worry about him being an apr issue. Oh by the way, He's averaging a whole 5 ppg and shooting a whopping 35% from the FT line at a junior college. Yea, I know, I know. The team's not doing that much better.
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RE: Back out West: @ UNT (2/13) & @ Tulsa (2/15)
I suspect your "anti-Christ" reference was intended as sarcasm. If so, I think you may be ignoring an important underlying truth to your comment.
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yeah the anti Christ comment was somewhat tongue in cheek. And I've stated before that I'm willing to give Jones a chance. But WS has made some questionable moves. I'm not sure how I feel about him. It does seem like things have not improved at all since his hiring, that's a fact.
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RE: Back out West: @ UNT (2/13) & @ Tulsa (2/15)
(02-16-2014 10:27 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(02-16-2014 10:21 PM)Cr8n Wrote:  Who was JJ supposed to bring in instantly if he was recruiting for American? If we brought in a guy who only had offers from American wouldn't we all be upset?

Mark Gottfried brought in three McDonald's all Americans in his first class, he was not even coaching/recruiting the year before. This stuff about relationships and needing to forge them over years is largely b.s. The relationships are forged with high school and AAU coaches.

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Again, he was at American. Not Alabama.
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RE: Back out West: @ UNT (2/13) & @ Tulsa (2/15)
Seriously, if we brought in someone that was headed to American, heads would explode. And it's not exactly that difficult to recruit All Americans to the ACC, come on now.
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Re: RE: Back out West: @ UNT (2/13) & @ Tulsa (2/15)
(02-16-2014 11:11 PM)Cr8n Wrote:  
(02-16-2014 10:27 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(02-16-2014 10:21 PM)Cr8n Wrote:  Who was JJ supposed to bring in instantly if he was recruiting for American? If we brought in a guy who only had offers from American wouldn't we all be upset?

Mark Gottfried brought in three McDonald's all Americans in his first class, he was not even coaching/recruiting the year before. This stuff about relationships and needing to forge them over years is largely b.s. The relationships are forged with high school and AAU coaches.

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Again, he was at American. Not Alabama.

Gottfried was at ESPN
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Re: RE: Back out West: @ UNT (2/13) & @ Tulsa (2/15)
(02-16-2014 11:15 PM)odugrad10 Wrote:  Seriously, if we brought in someone that was headed to American, heads would explode. And it's not exactly that difficult to recruit All Americans to the ACC, come on now.

How hard is this to understand? Nobody wants the guys JJ was recruiting to American. He has had a nearly a year to get out there and find players for ODU. Other coaches find players (that they weren't recruiting at their previous job) all the time. This nonsense about needing half a decade to forge relationships with middle schoolers is purely fictitious. It simply does not exist in the real world. How the hell do you think JJ signed the 2 2015s if it takes so damn long to convince a kid to come here.
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RE: Back out West: @ UNT (2/13) & @ Tulsa (2/15)
Why does it matter when we land players so long as we land them? There's still plenty of time to sign players before next season. Why is there so much consternation about a process still in progress?

I believe the chances that the staff lands no one before next year are next to 0%.
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RE: Back out West: @ UNT (2/13) & @ Tulsa (2/15)
(02-16-2014 10:21 PM)Cr8n Wrote:  Who was JJ supposed to bring in instantly if he was recruiting for American? If we brought in a guy who only had offers from American wouldn't we all be upset?

Why did we hire a guy who wasn't recruiting anyone of value at American for 10 years?

Why didn't we hire a young assistant from a big time program like a smart who has ties to all kinds of young talented players?

Oh right, no young assistants were woods ex drinking buddies.
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RE: Back out West: @ UNT (2/13) & @ Tulsa (2/15)
(02-16-2014 11:15 PM)odugrad10 Wrote:  Seriously, if we brought in someone that was headed to American, heads would explode. And it's not exactly that difficult to recruit All Americans to the ACC, come on now.

Then why did we hire a coach who went 10-21 at American and has no significant recruiting ability (we would have seen SOMETHING by now)?
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RE: Back out West: @ UNT (2/13) & @ Tulsa (2/15)
Jeff Jones is a stiff country club white guy. Im sure he is able to connect and convince kids he is the guy who will make their next four years enjoyable!!!
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It is a common experience that a problem difficult at night is resolved in the morning after the committee of sleep has worked on it.

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RE: Back out West: @ UNT (2/13) & @ Tulsa (2/15)
(02-17-2014 02:48 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  
(02-16-2014 10:21 PM)Cr8n Wrote:  Who was JJ supposed to bring in instantly if he was recruiting for American? If we brought in a guy who only had offers from American wouldn't we all be upset?

Why did we hire a guy who wasn't recruiting anyone of value at American for 10 years?

Why didn't we hire a young assistant from a big time program like a smart who has ties to all kinds of young talented players?

Oh right, no young assistants were woods ex drinking buddies.

I can't argue that. All I can work with is what we know. We have a coach that goes by the name Jeff Jones.

The sense of helplessness and vitriol one feels for not being a part of the answer when the problem affects us all has differing levels of intensity.
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RE: Back out West: @ UNT (2/13) & @ Tulsa (2/15)
(02-17-2014 07:57 AM)Cr8n Wrote:  
(02-17-2014 02:48 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  
(02-16-2014 10:21 PM)Cr8n Wrote:  Who was JJ supposed to bring in instantly if he was recruiting for American? If we brought in a guy who only had offers from American wouldn't we all be upset?

Why did we hire a guy who wasn't recruiting anyone of value at American for 10 years?

Why didn't we hire a young assistant from a big time program like a smart who has ties to all kinds of young talented players?

Oh right, no young assistants were woods ex drinking buddies.

I can't argue that. All I can work with is what we know. We have a coach that goes by the name Jeff Jones.

The sense of helplessness and vitriol one feels for not being a part of the answer when the problem affects us all has differing levels of intensity.

Well stated...
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RE: Back out West: @ UNT (2/13) & @ Tulsa (2/15)
(02-16-2014 09:19 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  
(02-16-2014 09:09 PM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  
(02-16-2014 05:50 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  
(02-16-2014 05:15 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  I'm blaming everybody involved with the program for the last 4 years.

I know, let's fire Big Blue! 03-idea

Hey. Lighten up. No one is better at stealing cheerleader or dancer pom poms.

Jeff jones might have been at one time.........

Someone should have commended you for this post.

LOL 04-cheers
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since we're still seemingly on the subject of coaching hires (or missed hires)... I saw this diddy on Andy Enfield's wife

[Image: 1379011677Amanda_Marcum_Widescreen_61120...2Pm662.jpg]

feeling better yet? (i didnt think so)
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oh, and this ought to make our Liberty residents disappear for a while... like garlic to a vampire

LOL
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(02-19-2014 01:30 AM)Petey Hodge Wrote:  oh, and this ought to make our Liberty residents disappear for a while... like garlic to a vampire

LOL

Why? I didn't see any alcoholic beverages or dancing in that picture 05-stirthepot

(Just a little Presbyterian joke there)...
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