In Cal's 5th season here he started the season 12-9 with home losses to olemiss, LA Tech, Providence and TCU. We ended up going to the NIT.

We finished the conference season 9-7 and tied with Houston for 6th place in the conference...behind Louisville, Cincinnati, Charlotte, UAB and DePaul.

That makes 16-5 (6-3) sound a little better.

I'd take 24-7 (13-5) and be happy if offered right now.

(02-02-2014 12:01 PM)3601 Wrote:  In Cal's 5th season here he started the season 12-9 with home losses to olemiss, LA Tech, Providence and TCU. We ended up going to the NIT.

We finished the conference season 9-7 and tied with Houston for 6th place in the conference...behind Louisville, Cincinnati, Charlotte, UAB and DePaul.

That makes 16-5 (6-3) sound a little better.

I'd take 24-7 (13-5) and be happy if offered right now.

Didn't we lose at home to Austin Peay that year, too?

I'm cool, it was a crap game, it happens.

^^yep

(02-02-2014 12:03 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  Didn't we lose at home to Austin Peay that year, too?

That was Cal's 3rd season.

(02-02-2014 12:01 PM)3601 Wrote:  In Cal's 5th season here he started the season 12-9 with home losses to olemiss, LA Tech, Providence and TCU. We ended up going to the NIT.

We finished the conference season 9-7 and tied with Houston for 6th place in the conference...behind Louisville, Cincinnati, Charlotte, UAB and DePaul.

That makes 16-5 (6-3) sound a little better.

I'd take 24-7 (13-5) and be happy if offered right now.

I don't see Laurinburg Prep coming through that door. That's the difference.

(02-02-2014 12:12 PM)Tigerbluesky Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 12:01 PM)3601 Wrote:  In Cal's 5th season here he started the season 12-9 with home losses to olemiss, LA Tech, Providence and TCU. We ended up going to the NIT.

We finished the conference season 9-7 and tied with Houston for 6th place in the conference...behind Louisville, Cincinnati, Charlotte, UAB and DePaul.

That makes 16-5 (6-3) sound a little better.

I'd take 24-7 (13-5) and be happy if offered right now.

I don't see Laurinburg Prep coming through that door. That's the difference.

Somebody needs to call WWW?

Did Cal have video of Wilt drinking sprite?

(02-02-2014 12:21 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 12:12 PM)Tigerbluesky Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 12:01 PM)3601 Wrote:  In Cal's 5th season here he started the season 12-9 with home losses to olemiss, LA Tech, Providence and TCU. We ended up going to the NIT.

We finished the conference season 9-7 and tied with Houston for 6th place in the conference...behind Louisville, Cincinnati, Charlotte, UAB and DePaul.

That makes 16-5 (6-3) sound a little better.

I'd take 24-7 (13-5) and be happy if offered right now.

I don't see Laurinburg Prep coming through that door. That's the difference.

Somebody needs to call WWW?

Exactly. Ain't happening.

#travis

How many 4 & 5 star players did Cal have on that team?

How many McDonald’s AA’s did Cal have on that team?

How many top 10 recruiting classes did Cal have to make that team?

I would take 24-7 (13-5) too. But the reality is we have to play 2 teams who beat us at home (Cinncy/UCONN), an arch rival who needs a good win bad (Louisville), and 1 who soundly whipped us yesterday (SMU). Plus the Zags. Plus the AAC tourney.

(02-02-2014 12:12 PM)Tigerbluesky Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 12:01 PM)3601 Wrote:  In Cal's 5th season here he started the season 12-9 with home losses to olemiss, LA Tech, Providence and TCU. We ended up going to the NIT.

We finished the conference season 9-7 and tied with Houston for 6th place in the conference...behind Louisville, Cincinnati, Charlotte, UAB and DePaul.

That makes 16-5 (6-3) sound a little better.

I'd take 24-7 (13-5) and be happy if offered right now.

I don't see Laurinburg Prep coming through that door. That's the difference.

With the Laurinburg Prep guys we had Dorsey, Dozier, Anderson, and added CDR.

Once they got acclimated they played power bball with in-your-face- defense. We didn’t have a guard playing SF, we had CDR. That’s the difference.

(02-02-2014 12:37 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  How many 4 & 5 star players did Cal have on that team?

How many McDonald’s AA’s did Cal have on that team?

How many top 10 recruiting classes did Cal have to make that team?

I would take 24-7 (13-5) too. But the reality is we have to play 2 teams who beat us at home (Cinncy/UCONN), an arch rival who needs a good win bad (Louisville), and 1 who soundly whipped us yesterday (SMU). Plus the Zags. Plus the AAC tourney.

It was Cal's 5th season so he had been recruiting here for 4 seasons. It's not it was a bunch of bums he interited. They were all Cal recruits. The roster was...

32 Sean Banks F So. Englewood, N.J./Bergen Catholic HS
55 Arthur Barclay C Sr. Camden, N.J./Camden HS
2 Tank Beavers G Fr. Athens, AL/Athens HS
10 Rodney Carney F Jr. Indianapolis, IN/Northwest HS
15 Joey Dorsey F Fr. Baltimore, MD/Laurinburg Prep (NC)
11 Duane Erwin F Sr. Huntsville, AL/Lee HS
5 Jeremy Hunt G Jr. Memphis, TN/Craigmont HS
14 Simplice Njoya F Jr. Yaounde, Cameroon/Duquesne
23 Anthony Rice G Sr. Atlanta, GA/North Clayton HS
3 Almamy Thiero F Jr. Mali, West Africa/Mt. Zion Academy
0 Clyde Wade G Jr. Memphis, TN/Winchendon School
35 Darius Washington G Fr. Orlando, FL/Edgewater HS
1 Waki Williams G Jr. Columbus, OH/Mt. San Jacinto JC

(02-02-2014 12:37 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  How many 4 & 5 star players did Cal have on that team?

How many McDonald’s AA’s did Cal have on that team?

How many top 10 recruiting classes did Cal have to make that team?

I would take 24-7 (13-5) too. But the reality is we have to play 2 teams who beat us at home (Cinncy/UCONN), an arch rival who needs a good win bad (Louisville), and 1 who soundly whipped us yesterday (SMU). Plus the Zags. Plus the AAC tourney.

You mean 4-5* guys like DWash, Rice, Banks (before he lost his mind), Erwin, etc?

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(02-02-2014 12:48 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 12:12 PM)Tigerbluesky Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 12:01 PM)3601 Wrote:  In Cal's 5th season here he started the season 12-9 with home losses to olemiss, LA Tech, Providence and TCU. We ended up going to the NIT.

We finished the conference season 9-7 and tied with Houston for 6th place in the conference...behind Louisville, Cincinnati, Charlotte, UAB and DePaul.

That makes 16-5 (6-3) sound a little better.

I'd take 24-7 (13-5) and be happy if offered right now.

I don't see Laurinburg Prep coming through that door. That's the difference.

With the Laurinburg Prep guys we had Dorsey, Dozier, Anderson, and added CDR.

Once they got acclimated they played power bball with in-your-face- defense. We didn’t have a guard playing SF, we had CDR. That’s the difference.

Dozier was a LP guy.

(02-02-2014 12:03 PM)fsquid Wrote:  I'm cool, it was a crap game, it happens.

It is pretty dam funny how LITERALLY every single loss puts pastner's entire career in question. Do you realize how good this guy has done with this being his first head coaching gig? He recruits off the charts, and has expectations that are ridiculous. The simple fact is , you lose games. It happens. The team played like crap, and I think Pastner probably sticks with the 4 guard lineup too much when It's not working. I figure its kind of addictive like gambling, because you have these four awesome guards who probably could beat anyone in the country when they are playing well, but it's a gamble about what your going to get. The thought of what could happen is too much to resist. That being said, I still think Pastner is awesome.

The key man on the 5th Cal season was Banks the freshman of the year that lost his mind. Lest we forget FRESHMAN Joey Dorsey replacing Ivan Lopez who went to Europe. Lest we forget FRESHMAN Darius Washington who replaced 3 year starter Antonio Burks. And correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Jeremy Hunt injured his knee that season and missed considerable time. The fact that they came within 2 free throws from making the tournament after all that says a lot for the coaching job that Cal did that year. But keep bringing it up to deflect.

(02-02-2014 01:19 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  The key man on the 5th Cal season was Banks the freshman of the year that lost his mind. Lest we forget FRESHMAN Joey Dorsey replacing Ivan Lopez who went to Europe. Lest we forget FRESHMAN Darius Washington who replaced 3 year starter Antonio Burks. And correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Jeremy Hunt injured his knee that season and missed considerable time. The fact that they came within 2 free throws from making the tournament after all that says a lot for the coaching job that Cal did that year. But keep bringing it up to deflect.

If a player had gone "Sean Banks" on Pastner the statement would be that he couldn't control players. If the 04-05 scenario happened under Josh's watch the cries for his firing would be deafening. Yep...there was grumbling about Cal that season but Josh has had just about as much grumbling THIS season which has been FAR MORE SUCCESSFUL.

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(02-02-2014 12:48 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 12:12 PM)Tigerbluesky Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 12:01 PM)3601 Wrote:  In Cal's 5th season here he started the season 12-9 with home losses to olemiss, LA Tech, Providence and TCU. We ended up going to the NIT.

We finished the conference season 9-7 and tied with Houston for 6th place in the conference...behind Louisville, Cincinnati, Charlotte, UAB and DePaul.

That makes 16-5 (6-3) sound a little better.

I'd take 24-7 (13-5) and be happy if offered right now.

I don't see Laurinburg Prep coming through that door. That's the difference.

With the Laurinburg Prep guys we had Dorsey, Dozier, Anderson, and added CDR.

Once they got acclimated they played power bball with in-your-face- defense. We didn’t have a guard playing SF, we had CDR. That’s the difference.

We did a lot of things differently. I didn't post on here, for one thing. I posted mostly on ESPN, spending half that time defending our coach from slanderous (and not so slanderous) accusations from every quarter. Our program was perceived as exploitative since we didn't graduate anyone, dirty because of Cal's vacated Final Four at UMass and association with WorldWide Wes, and full of thugs because of our players' constant run-ins with the law which are too numerous to list here.

On the other hand, our guys learned to play defense by January and didn't show up the next November looking like they'd never run a play with the team before. Our rankings almost always started out lower and improved throughout the season, and our coach finally stumbled upon an offense that actually worked well to use as a staple and supplemented it with various set plays for specific circumstances (the latter which we occasionally do now, as well.) The biggest difference is that if we started out with a game plan that wasn't working, we wouldn't still be using it down 20 later in the game.

There's no win-win. There were and are good things and bad things about our current and previous coaches and their programs, but that's not the real issue. Our last coach got a lot better and left for a better job. I'd give anything to see that happen again, but so far, that's not looking like a sure bet.

(02-02-2014 01:19 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  The key man on the 5th Cal season was Banks the freshman of the year that lost his mind. Lest we forget FRESHMAN Joey Dorsey replacing Ivan Lopez who went to Europe. Lest we forget FRESHMAN Darius Washington who replaced 3 year starter Antonio Burks. And correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Jeremy Hunt injured his knee that season and missed considerable time. The fact that they came within 2 free throws from making the tournament after all that says a lot for the coaching job that Cal did that year. But keep bringing it up to deflect.

We will be that young next season. Let's hope we do better than the NIT.

There were a LOT of folks who wanted Cal fired that year. You were probably one of them. Be honest...were you?