Tigeer Wrote:

stevej5 Wrote:

CatsClaw Wrote:

Tigeer Wrote:

stevej5 Wrote:

Tigeer Wrote:

Quote:2) by "rump" i mean shorn of its two most successful programs - Miami and VT - and of its most important direct media market, Boston. USF is indeed very happy to be in the Big East, but let's not fool ourselves: losing VT, Miami, and BC and gaining USF, louisville, and UC was a big step downward for a league that was the "rump" of the BCS conferences to begin with.

Tell me how VT was one of the BE two most successful programs, historically, without including WVU. Historically WVU has a better track record and that will only improve going forward. Miami I can see on a pedastol but not VT without WVU. VT has had a nice 10-15 year run, if that. Lets see if it keeps going. Both have played for National Championships, both have been to major bowls, head to head the games although slanted toward VT on the W-L side recently have always been close - I don't get the VT lovefest.

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Historically, WVU wasn't in the Big East! Over the past 10 years, VT has clearly out-performed WVU overall plus beat them 7-3 head to head. At the time VT left the BE, they were clearly a better program than WVU.

WVU has been in the BE for its entire FB existence; they were just reluctantly allowed to enter BB later. Clearly outperformed, clearly better? - pretty strong statement - I disagree - you must worship the ESPN god.

You're arguing with a troll unfortunately. You can't reason with them.

Remember, he's the one trying to make the silly claim that VT hasn't been clearly better than WVU the past 10 yrs. Don't mistake me for that ...

I claimed nothing; you are the one that made the claim VT was "Clearly" better and used "Historically" originally - I just disagreed.

... and your disagreement with "clearly better" was rendered silly by the evidence: 22 more wins, 17 less losses, 7-3 record head-head, much bigger MOV in those games, etc.

stevej5 Wrote:

Tigeer Wrote:

stevej5 Wrote:

CatsClaw Wrote:

Tigeer Wrote:

stevej5 Wrote:

Tigeer Wrote:

Quote:2) by "rump" i mean shorn of its two most successful programs - Miami and VT - and of its most important direct media market, Boston. USF is indeed very happy to be in the Big East, but let's not fool ourselves: losing VT, Miami, and BC and gaining USF, louisville, and UC was a big step downward for a league that was the "rump" of the BCS conferences to begin with.

Tell me how VT was one of the BE two most successful programs, historically, without including WVU. Historically WVU has a better track record and that will only improve going forward. Miami I can see on a pedastol but not VT without WVU. VT has had a nice 10-15 year run, if that. Lets see if it keeps going. Both have played for National Championships, both have been to major bowls, head to head the games although slanted toward VT on the W-L side recently have always been close - I don't get the VT lovefest.

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Historically, WVU wasn't in the Big East! Over the past 10 years, VT has clearly out-performed WVU overall plus beat them 7-3 head to head. At the time VT left the BE, they were clearly a better program than WVU.

WVU has been in the BE for its entire FB existence; they were just reluctantly allowed to enter BB later. Clearly outperformed, clearly better? - pretty strong statement - I disagree - you must worship the ESPN god.

You're arguing with a troll unfortunately. You can't reason with them.

Remember, he's the one trying to make the silly claim that VT hasn't been clearly better than WVU the past 10 yrs. Don't mistake me for that ...

I claimed nothing; you are the one that made the claim VT was "Clearly" better and used "Historically" originally - I just disagreed.

... and your disagreement with "clearly better" was rendered silly by the evidence: 22 more wins, 17 less losses, 7-3 record head-head, much bigger MOV in those games, etc.

Not rendered silly by me, but I'm stubborn.

To you VT is the team of then and here-after .

Hope you get to squirm while watching the UoL or WVU in the BCS Championship game.

Tigeer Wrote:

stevej5 Wrote:

Tigeer Wrote:

stevej5 Wrote:

CatsClaw Wrote:

Tigeer Wrote:

stevej5 Wrote:

Tigeer Wrote:

Quote:2) by "rump" i mean shorn of its two most successful programs - Miami and VT - and of its most important direct media market, Boston. USF is indeed very happy to be in the Big East, but let's not fool ourselves: losing VT, Miami, and BC and gaining USF, louisville, and UC was a big step downward for a league that was the "rump" of the BCS conferences to begin with.

Tell me how VT was one of the BE two most successful programs, historically, without including WVU. Historically WVU has a better track record and that will only improve going forward. Miami I can see on a pedastol but not VT without WVU. VT has had a nice 10-15 year run, if that. Lets see if it keeps going. Both have played for National Championships, both have been to major bowls, head to head the games although slanted toward VT on the W-L side recently have always been close - I don't get the VT lovefest.

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Historically, WVU wasn't in the Big East! Over the past 10 years, VT has clearly out-performed WVU overall plus beat them 7-3 head to head. At the time VT left the BE, they were clearly a better program than WVU.

WVU has been in the BE for its entire FB existence; they were just reluctantly allowed to enter BB later. Clearly outperformed, clearly better? - pretty strong statement - I disagree - you must worship the ESPN god.

You're arguing with a troll unfortunately. You can't reason with them.

Remember, he's the one trying to make the silly claim that VT hasn't been clearly better than WVU the past 10 yrs. Don't mistake me for that ...

I claimed nothing; you are the one that made the claim VT was "Clearly" better and used "Historically" originally - I just disagreed.

... and your disagreement with "clearly better" was rendered silly by the evidence: 22 more wins, 17 less losses, 7-3 record head-head, much bigger MOV in those games, etc.

Not rendered silly by me, but I'm stubborn.

It was rendered silly to anyone who can process the evidence.