(11-01-2015 10:04 PM)etsuandpurdue3 Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 10:00 PM)brock20 Wrote:  The crowd Saturday was very encouraging. We had a full stadium for a team that was 0-7. The community support is there but the athletic department can't rest. Have to keep up the momentum. Keep planning special events. Work to get more students out there.

Hopefully there is nice weather for the last game, so that average doesn't fall too much, but I'll be there rain or shine. Crowd was very nice, and about 300 or so in our section were there for an fraternity/alumni reunion.

200 at the last home soccer game -- so that didn't work out very well as the fall sport after football was dropped. Over 7,000 vs 200 seems to be a little better revenue stream for an athletic program that continued spending money as if it never dropped football in the first place. Where are all the haters of the squandering of millions this last decade without football?

Soccer is still an important sport, most sports do not get 200 to attend. It is not even fair to compare football and soccer support though- football will obviously always get more fan support.

The crowd this past Saturday surprised me, I figured we would drop off more. Very glad that we had a full stadium. Except for the students, who don't seem to care anymore.

(11-02-2015 03:13 PM)etsubuc Wrote:  Soccer is still an important sport, most sports do not get 200 to attend. It is not even fair to compare football and soccer support though- football will obviously always get more fan support.

The crowd this past Saturday surprised me, I figured we would drop off more. Very glad that we had a full stadium. Except for the students, who don't seem to care anymore.

Yeah, but winning will solve that.

(11-02-2015 03:13 PM)etsubuc Wrote:  Soccer is still an important sport, most sports do not get 200 to attend. It is not even fair to compare football and soccer support though- football will obviously always get more fan support.

The crowd this past Saturday surprised me, I figured we would drop off more. Very glad that we had a full stadium. Except for the students, who don't seem to care anymore.

Important to the tune of tier 5 status now. Was not attempting to compare soccer with football. I disagree, men's soccer is of little or no importance as a subsidized college sport. On the other hand, women's soccer is much more important in this era of college athletics. Point being, they kept spending after football was dropped as if it had not been dropped, thus losing that revenue source to help offset the even larger subsidy to overall athletics, especially the invisible sports. They have the athletic finance model right now --- FINALLY.

We basically agree. My only point is that I believe ALL sports are important as a subsidized sport. Not on the level of football or basketball or baseball, but still I believe that any sports that are attended by fans or are successful (tennis and golf) are important for other reasons.

I would be in favor of dropping softball if we didn't already have the facility.

(11-02-2015 07:39 PM)etsubuc Wrote:  We basically agree. My only point is that I believe ALL sports are important as a subsidized sport. Not on the level of football or basketball or baseball, but still I believe that any sports that are attended by fans or are successful (tennis and golf) are important for other reasons.

I would be in favor of dropping softball if we didn't already have the facility.

I agree, the softball is easily the least successful program in the department, no offense to the players or coaches.

(11-02-2015 05:33 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(11-02-2015 03:13 PM)etsubuc Wrote:  Soccer is still an important sport, most sports do not get 200 to attend. It is not even fair to compare football and soccer support though- football will obviously always get more fan support.

The crowd this past Saturday surprised me, I figured we would drop off more. Very glad that we had a full stadium. Except for the students, who don't seem to care anymore.

Important to the tune of tier 5 status now. Was not attempting to compare soccer with football. I disagree, men's soccer is of little or no importance as a subsidized college sport. On the other hand, women's soccer is much more important in this era of college athletics. Point being, they kept spending after football was dropped as if it had not been dropped, thus losing that revenue source to help offset the even larger subsidy to overall athletics, especially the invisible sports. They have the athletic finance model right now --- FINALLY.

My feelings on communist kickball are well known, but don't discount it. It's simply played at the wrong time of the year. They need to move soccer to the spring, and play a short season that starts in late February and ends in May. Focus on warm weather games, do early season weekend tournaments in warm weather locations. The younger generation enjoys soccer, more so than baseball, so find a way to get people out and capitalize on it. Having a double header on a Halloween Saturday is just too much.

(11-03-2015 12:49 AM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  

(11-02-2015 05:33 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(11-02-2015 03:13 PM)etsubuc Wrote:  Soccer is still an important sport, most sports do not get 200 to attend. It is not even fair to compare football and soccer support though- football will obviously always get more fan support.

The crowd this past Saturday surprised me, I figured we would drop off more. Very glad that we had a full stadium. Except for the students, who don't seem to care anymore.

Important to the tune of tier 5 status now. Was not attempting to compare soccer with football. I disagree, men's soccer is of little or no importance as a subsidized college sport. On the other hand, women's soccer is much more important in this era of college athletics. Point being, they kept spending after football was dropped as if it had not been dropped, thus losing that revenue source to help offset the even larger subsidy to overall athletics, especially the invisible sports. They have the athletic finance model right now --- FINALLY.

My feelings on communist kickball are well known, but don't discount it. It's simply played at the wrong time of the year. They need to move soccer to the spring, and play a short season that starts in late February and ends in May. Focus on warm weather games, do early season weekend tournaments in warm weather locations. The younger generation enjoys soccer, more so than baseball, so find a way to get people out and capitalize on it. Having a double header on a Halloween Saturday is just too much.

Can't move soccer to spring and still attempt conference play. In both HS and College, soccer is considered a fall sport. ETSU isn't going to make any headway in changing that.

(11-03-2015 08:48 AM)queenladybug817 Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 12:49 AM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  

(11-02-2015 05:33 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(11-02-2015 03:13 PM)etsubuc Wrote:  Soccer is still an important sport, most sports do not get 200 to attend. It is not even fair to compare football and soccer support though- football will obviously always get more fan support.

The crowd this past Saturday surprised me, I figured we would drop off more. Very glad that we had a full stadium. Except for the students, who don't seem to care anymore.

Important to the tune of tier 5 status now. Was not attempting to compare soccer with football. I disagree, men's soccer is of little or no importance as a subsidized college sport. On the other hand, women's soccer is much more important in this era of college athletics. Point being, they kept spending after football was dropped as if it had not been dropped, thus losing that revenue source to help offset the even larger subsidy to overall athletics, especially the invisible sports. They have the athletic finance model right now --- FINALLY.

My feelings on communist kickball are well known, but don't discount it. It's simply played at the wrong time of the year. They need to move soccer to the spring, and play a short season that starts in late February and ends in May. Focus on warm weather games, do early season weekend tournaments in warm weather locations. The younger generation enjoys soccer, more so than baseball, so find a way to get people out and capitalize on it. Having a double header on a Halloween Saturday is just too much.

Can't move soccer to spring and still attempt conference play. In both HS and College, soccer is considered a fall sport. ETSU isn't going to make any headway in changing that.

Perhaps ETSU could consider the men's soccer strategy of fellow SoCon members Western, Chatt, Samford, and Citadel -- thus helping the gender equity requirement.

(11-03-2015 08:48 AM)queenladybug817 Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 12:49 AM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  

(11-02-2015 05:33 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(11-02-2015 03:13 PM)etsubuc Wrote:  Soccer is still an important sport, most sports do not get 200 to attend. It is not even fair to compare football and soccer support though- football will obviously always get more fan support.

The crowd this past Saturday surprised me, I figured we would drop off more. Very glad that we had a full stadium. Except for the students, who don't seem to care anymore.

Important to the tune of tier 5 status now. Was not attempting to compare soccer with football. I disagree, men's soccer is of little or no importance as a subsidized college sport. On the other hand, women's soccer is much more important in this era of college athletics. Point being, they kept spending after football was dropped as if it had not been dropped, thus losing that revenue source to help offset the even larger subsidy to overall athletics, especially the invisible sports. They have the athletic finance model right now --- FINALLY.

My feelings on communist kickball are well known, but don't discount it. It's simply played at the wrong time of the year. They need to move soccer to the spring, and play a short season that starts in late February and ends in May. Focus on warm weather games, do early season weekend tournaments in warm weather locations. The younger generation enjoys soccer, more so than baseball, so find a way to get people out and capitalize on it. Having a double header on a Halloween Saturday is just too much.

Can't move soccer to spring and still attempt conference play. In both HS and College, soccer is considered a fall sport. ETSU isn't going to make any headway in changing that.

I understand the challenges but you can get a full conference slate in. Thursday/Saturday contests ratchet up in March, play two a week until late April, play the conference tournament the week before the semester ends. I'm not about can't. I'm about the NCAA instituting change as a way to promote what is an emerging sport in this country. The fact of the matter is as long as soccer is played in the fall, it has no chance of being relevant in this country on college campuses, at least not for the next 30 years or so. Men's soccer lasts around 10-11 weeks without tournaments. They played 16 matches this year. Two per week is 8 weeks of games. Factor a week for the conference tourney, three weeks of warm weather tournaments. It absolutely could be done.

Remember title nine requirements when making comments about dropping teams, being relevant or providing revenue.