(01-31-2014 10:21 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:11 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Regardless of who it is for, every citizen should be able to do decently well on it.

Exactly. I'd like to see some HS students, or even college students try this out. I can understand the Science changing because of technology, but Grammar, Orthography, Geography, Arithmetic, and U.S. History should be the same, minus a century of history that has passed since then.

Exactly!

(01-31-2014 10:22 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  LET"S CALL THIS FOR WHAT IT IS!


Grammar doesn't make sense and they have a ton of conflicting rules that frustrate the masses!! THERE I SAID IT!

Well foreign folks do say that English is the hardest language to learn.

and.........

if you are good at grammar you were probably a nerd!

THERE I SAID IT!!!!

(01-31-2014 10:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:18 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 09:54 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 09:52 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I've thought about this one for awhile. The reason you think it is hard because you weren't taught that material.

I remember in 8th grade that, do does did shall will should would may might must can could. I have no idea what I'm spitting out but to this day I can spit it out on command. If the curriculum is designed to answer those questions I gaurandamntee you I could get 80% of my class to answer it. Just let me know what is on the test and I will prepare kids for it. If the op is worried about what and when we are teaching our kids. Welcome to the club, I am too but take your run of the mill kid in 1895 and put him in a run of the mill math class today and his head swims. Same in science.

Exactly. Most of that curriculum is still taught, just not in that context.

If this is the case then I don't understand how so many youth are illiterate. ESPECIALLY when it comes to grammar.

Texting??

Texting, emailing, FORUM discussions, social media. I mean, I could be wrong but I'm pretty certain that people don't hand write letters anymore.

(01-31-2014 10:23 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:18 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 09:54 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 09:52 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I've thought about this one for awhile. The reason you think it is hard because you weren't taught that material.

I remember in 8th grade that, do does did shall will should would may might must can could. I have no idea what I'm spitting out but to this day I can spit it out on command. If the curriculum is designed to answer those questions I gaurandamntee you I could get 80% of my class to answer it. Just let me know what is on the test and I will prepare kids for it. If the op is worried about what and when we are teaching our kids. Welcome to the club, I am too but take your run of the mill kid in 1895 and put him in a run of the mill math class today and his head swims. Same in science.

Exactly. Most of that curriculum is still taught, just not in that context.

If this is the case then I don't understand how so many youth are illiterate. ESPECIALLY when it comes to grammar.

Texting??

Texting, emailing, FORUM discussions, social media. I mean, I could be wrong but I'm pretty certain that people don't hand write letters anymore.

I agree. I have a feeling someone a century from now will hardly be able to comprehend today's English. Much like it's a pain to read Shakespear written in the English of that day.

(01-31-2014 10:22 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  LET"S CALL THIS FOR WHAT IT IS!


Grammar doesn't make sense and they have a ton of conflicting rules that frustrate the masses!! THERE I SAID IT!

It's not that hard to capitalize, use punctuation correctly, etc. There's even a "spell check" for crying out loud. Furthermore, a feaking backspace.

(01-31-2014 10:25 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:23 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:18 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 09:54 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Exactly. Most of that curriculum is still taught, just not in that context.

If this is the case then I don't understand how so many youth are illiterate. ESPECIALLY when it comes to grammar.

Texting??

Texting, emailing, FORUM discussions, social media. I mean, I could be wrong but I'm pretty certain that people don't hand write letters anymore.

I agree. I have a feeling someone a century from now will hardly be able to comprehend today's English. Much like it's a pain to read Shakespear written in the English of that day.

"LOL u da need 2 c Shackspare!!!!!!!!5 yolo. Chek out ma blog."

(01-31-2014 10:26 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:22 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  LET"S CALL THIS FOR WHAT IT IS!


Grammar doesn't make sense and they have a ton of conflicting rules that frustrate the masses!! THERE I SAID IT!

It's not that hard to capitalize, use punctuation correctly, etc. There's even a "spell check" for crying out loud. Furthermore, a feaking backspace.

Yea, and even if they are confusing the folks need to know them. The folks who do will be the ones running **** and those that don't will be working for them.

(01-31-2014 10:25 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:23 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:18 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 09:54 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Exactly. Most of that curriculum is still taught, just not in that context.

If this is the case then I don't understand how so many youth are illiterate. ESPECIALLY when it comes to grammar.

Texting??

Texting, emailing, FORUM discussions, social media. I mean, I could be wrong but I'm pretty certain that people don't hand write letters anymore.

I agree. I have a feeling someone a century from now will hardly be able to comprehend today's English. Much like it's a pain to read Shakespear written in the English of that day.

Shakespeare came from the 16th Century though, and the United Kingdom. As far down as our language context steadily falls, there's absolutely NO telling how horrid it will be in five more centuries. Or hell, even one more century.

(01-31-2014 10:27 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:25 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:23 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:18 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  If this is the case then I don't understand how so many youth are illiterate. ESPECIALLY when it comes to grammar.

Texting??

Texting, emailing, FORUM discussions, social media. I mean, I could be wrong but I'm pretty certain that people don't hand write letters anymore.

I agree. I have a feeling someone a century from now will hardly be able to comprehend today's English. Much like it's a pain to read Shakespear written in the English of that day.

"LOL u da need 2 c Shackspare!!!!!!!!5 yolo. Chek out ma blog."

aight den braw i catch u on fb and we chiggel it up ova dey cool

(01-31-2014 10:28 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:26 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:22 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  LET"S CALL THIS FOR WHAT IT IS!


Grammar doesn't make sense and they have a ton of conflicting rules that frustrate the masses!! THERE I SAID IT!

It's not that hard to capitalize, use punctuation correctly, etc. There's even a "spell check" for crying out loud. Furthermore, a feaking backspace.

Yea, and even if they are confusing the folks need to know them. The folks who do will be the ones running **** and those that don't will be working for them.

I'd like to agree with you, but we all know how things are going these days. An uneducated and illiterate man can pass you up, even if you're qualified with experience, because it's "the law."

(01-31-2014 10:34 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:28 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:26 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:22 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  LET"S CALL THIS FOR WHAT IT IS!


Grammar doesn't make sense and they have a ton of conflicting rules that frustrate the masses!! THERE I SAID IT!

It's not that hard to capitalize, use punctuation correctly, etc. There's even a "spell check" for crying out loud. Furthermore, a feaking backspace.

Yea, and even if they are confusing the folks need to know them. The folks who do will be the ones running **** and those that don't will be working for them.

I'd like to agree with you, but we all know how things are going these days. An uneducated and illiterate man can pass you up, even if you're qualified with experience, because it's "the law."

Touché

(01-31-2014 10:41 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:34 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:28 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:26 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:22 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  LET"S CALL THIS FOR WHAT IT IS!


Grammar doesn't make sense and they have a ton of conflicting rules that frustrate the masses!! THERE I SAID IT!

It's not that hard to capitalize, use punctuation correctly, etc. There's even a "spell check" for crying out loud. Furthermore, a feaking backspace.

Yea, and even if they are confusing the folks need to know them. The folks who do will be the ones running **** and those that don't will be working for them.

I'd like to agree with you, but we all know how things are going these days. An uneducated and illiterate man can pass you up, even if you're qualified with experience, because it's "the law."

Touché

It's bullsh*t fasho briggity bro!

(01-31-2014 10:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:18 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 09:54 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 09:52 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I've thought about this one for awhile. The reason you think it is hard because you weren't taught that material.

I remember in 8th grade that, do does did shall will should would may might must can could. I have no idea what I'm spitting out but to this day I can spit it out on command. If the curriculum is designed to answer those questions I gaurandamntee you I could get 80% of my class to answer it. Just let me know what is on the test and I will prepare kids for it. If the op is worried about what and when we are teaching our kids. Welcome to the club, I am too but take your run of the mill kid in 1895 and put him in a run of the mill math class today and his head swims. Same in science.

Exactly. Most of that curriculum is still taught, just not in that context.

If this is the case then I don't understand how so many youth are illiterate. ESPECIALLY when it comes to grammar.

Texting??

Marijuana use. There is a study out now that links chronic users to a lower IQ.

http://healthland.time.com/2013/01/15/ne...wering-iq/

(01-31-2014 10:43 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:41 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:34 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:28 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:26 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  It's not that hard to capitalize, use punctuation correctly, etc. There's even a "spell check" for crying out loud. Furthermore, a feaking backspace.

Yea, and even if they are confusing the folks need to know them. The folks who do will be the ones running **** and those that don't will be working for them.

I'd like to agree with you, but we all know how things are going these days. An uneducated and illiterate man can pass you up, even if you're qualified with experience, because it's "the law."

Touché

It's bullsh*t fasho briggity bro!

(01-31-2014 10:43 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:18 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 09:54 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 09:52 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I've thought about this one for awhile. The reason you think it is hard because you weren't taught that material.

I remember in 8th grade that, do does did shall will should would may might must can could. I have no idea what I'm spitting out but to this day I can spit it out on command. If the curriculum is designed to answer those questions I gaurandamntee you I could get 80% of my class to answer it. Just let me know what is on the test and I will prepare kids for it. If the op is worried about what and when we are teaching our kids. Welcome to the club, I am too but take your run of the mill kid in 1895 and put him in a run of the mill math class today and his head swims. Same in science.

Exactly. Most of that curriculum is still taught, just not in that context.

If this is the case then I don't understand how so many youth are illiterate. ESPECIALLY when it comes to grammar.

Texting??

Marijuana use. There is a study out now that links chronic users to a lower IQ.

http://healthland.time.com/2013/01/15/ne...wering-iq/

Didn't you state somewhere along the line that at one time you were a heavy, habitual user? (couldn't resist)

(01-31-2014 11:00 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:43 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 10:18 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 09:54 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Exactly. Most of that curriculum is still taught, just not in that context.

If this is the case then I don't understand how so many youth are illiterate. ESPECIALLY when it comes to grammar.

Texting??

Marijuana use. There is a study out now that links chronic users to a lower IQ.

http://healthland.time.com/2013/01/15/ne...wering-iq/

Didn't you state somewhere along the line that at one time you were a heavy, habitual user? (couldn't resist)

Yep, but enough time has gone by for me to reclaim those lost IQ points

(01-31-2014 09:40 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 08:23 AM)AngryAphid Wrote:  Wagon boxes just 3 feet wide were advantageous in the fields, but they would hold no more than 60 bushels…
the way Obadia stacked them, you could get a couple more coomb.

A bushel is 1.244 cubic feet, but 1.25 cubic feet is used for easy math. In the problem you reference it would only hold 48 bushels. Your assumption that the width alone would limit capacity is incorrect. You didn't account for varying heights and lengths.

It's amazing how you can tell how and in what manner most kids were raised by the questions on the tests.

The question wasn’t about math as much as it was about common sense.
Stack them high, make less trips.

Quote:9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.

Rain.

(01-31-2014 11:30 AM)AngryAphid Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 09:40 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 08:23 AM)AngryAphid Wrote:  Wagon boxes just 3 feet wide were advantageous in the fields, but they would hold no more than 60 bushels…
the way Obadia stacked them, you could get a couple more coomb.

A bushel is 1.244 cubic feet, but 1.25 cubic feet is used for easy math. In the problem you reference it would only hold 48 bushels. Your assumption that the width alone would limit capacity is incorrect. You didn't account for varying heights and lengths.

It's amazing how you can tell how and in what manner most kids were raised by the questions on the tests.

The question wasn’t about math as much as it was about common sense.
Stack them high, make less trips.

Don't know where you get that from. You can't stack loose grain any higher than the container you are putting it in. Seemed like a math problem to me seeing as how it gave the volume of the wagon and the number of material going into the wagon. The only piece of information needed was the conversion factor for bushels to cubic feet.