I know you're not supposed to have to explain a joke.....

1) Spare water was for Owl 69 and I was mocking Fresno near where I live as well as Global Climate Change for causing the California drought as first reported by our President's recent Fresno visit and his request for $1 billion to fix the problem.

2) Walk across the room was mocking the 4x10 ft "office" Hambone and I share.

3) And for Mr Big, I obviously needed the water to throw (note the action verb used) on the floor so I could walk upon it-referring to my deity complex.

4) Minion was a direct reference to Hambone who just happened to be sitting 4 ft away from me in our closet.

Sorry if I wasn't clear.

(02-21-2014 06:57 PM)ruowls Wrote:  ...
2) Walk across the room was mocking the 4x10 ft "office" Hambone and I share.
...

So the two of you got the BIG corner office? Clearly admin material displayed in that choice...

(02-21-2014 06:14 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  I don't want to throw him under the bus or steal anything from his 'reveal'... but he agreed with some 'bad' comparisons to his predecessors and even mentioned a few that might surprise you... things he thought (as an example) Del Conte could have done better...

Not necessarily saying Chris didn't do well... merely saying that his expectations of himself in his ability to relate to our various internal and external constituencies seemed to be extremely high.

Among other things, he mentioned (as I have repeated) that we have a superior academic product and we need to be taking full advantage of that, because that will resonate with the kinds of athletes we should be recruiting anyway.

+1....but it's not only the superior academic product; it's also the relatively small enrollment size, the campus, the college system, et al. They key message-- and Dr. K definitely gets this and agrees 100%-- is to truly embrace the difference and the uniqueness that is Rice. In recruiting...in marketing...in fundraising. As Dr. K acknowledges, there really is no other place to look for a comparable model. Stanford has the high academic reputation, but it's a much, much larger university with more than 25 times the number of living alumni...with a $200+Million athletic endowment...and receiving $20+MM/yr as a member of the Pac-12. In other words, just as The OG has done in baseball, we have to build our own model for football and basketball.

(02-21-2014 08:51 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  ...Stanford has the high academic reputation, but it's a much, much larger university with more than 25 times the number of living alumni...

That stuns me.

(02-22-2014 12:51 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(02-21-2014 08:51 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  ...Stanford has the high academic reputation, but it's a much, much larger university with more than 25 times the number of living alumni...

That stuns me.

Me too. They would have to have 11 million to be 25 times our 45,000 alums. They have 211,000 living alumni.

(02-22-2014 12:57 AM)bobreinhold1 Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 12:51 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(02-21-2014 08:51 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  ...Stanford has the high academic reputation, but it's a much, much larger university with more than 25 times the number of living alumni...

That stuns me.

Me too. They would have to have 11 million to be 25 times our 45,000 alums. They have 211,000 living alumni.

1,125,000
but who's counting

(02-22-2014 01:00 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 12:57 AM)bobreinhold1 Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 12:51 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(02-21-2014 08:51 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  ...Stanford has the high academic reputation, but it's a much, much larger university with more than 25 times the number of living alumni...

That stuns me.

Me too. They would have to have 11 million to be 25 times our 45,000 alums. They have 211,000 living alumni.

1,125,000
but who's counting

The Stanford Graduate School of Business, by itself, has 27,705 living alumni, more than half our entire university's total.

Its 1,174 "ultra high net worth" alums (worth $171 billion) give Stanford the #3 wealthiest alumni ranking byr Wealth-X.

(02-22-2014 01:00 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 12:57 AM)bobreinhold1 Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 12:51 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(02-21-2014 08:51 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  ...Stanford has the high academic reputation, but it's a much, much larger university with more than 25 times the number of living alumni...

That stuns me.

Me too. They would have to have 11 million to be 25 times our 45,000 alums. They have 211,000 living alumni.

1,125,000
but who's counting

Er.....someone must have been an academ and not an SE major!

(02-22-2014 01:48 AM)NolaOwl Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 01:00 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 12:57 AM)bobreinhold1 Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 12:51 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(02-21-2014 08:51 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  ...Stanford has the high academic reputation, but it's a much, much larger university with more than 25 times the number of living alumni...

That stuns me.

Me too. They would have to have 11 million to be 25 times our 45,000 alums. They have 211,000 living alumni.

1,125,000
but who's counting

Er.....someone must have been an academ and not an SE major!

If this was targeted at me, I merely multiplied 25 times 45,000 to try to get to 11 million.

(02-22-2014 01:56 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 01:48 AM)NolaOwl Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 01:00 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 12:57 AM)bobreinhold1 Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 12:51 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  That stuns me.

Me too. They would have to have 11 million to be 25 times our 45,000 alums. They have 211,000 living alumni.

1,125,000
but who's counting

Er.....someone must have been an academ and not an SE major!

If this was targeted at me, I merely multiplied 25 times 45,000 to try to get to 11 million.

Next time, you might want to try 250 * 45000 to get there! <g>

However we scratch it, Stanford is clearly much bigger.

(02-22-2014 02:03 AM)NolaOwl Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 01:56 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 01:48 AM)NolaOwl Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 01:00 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 12:57 AM)bobreinhold1 Wrote:  Me too. They would have to have 11 million to be 25 times our 45,000 alums. They have 211,000 living alumni.

1,125,000
but who's counting

Er.....someone must have been an academ and not an SE major!

If this was targeted at me, I merely multiplied 25 times 45,000 to try to get to 11 million.

Next time, you might want to try 250 * 45000 to get there! <g>

However we scratch it, Stanford is clearly much bigger.

Don't make me pull out my slide-rule. I still have one and I'm not afraid to use it.

(02-22-2014 02:08 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 02:03 AM)NolaOwl Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 01:56 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 01:48 AM)NolaOwl Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 01:00 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  1,125,000
but who's counting

Er.....someone must have been an academ and not an SE major!

If this was targeted at me, I merely multiplied 25 times 45,000 to try to get to 11 million.

Next time, you might want to try 250 * 45000 to get there! <g>

However we scratch it, Stanford is clearly much bigger.

Don't make me pull out my slide-rule. I still have one and I'm not afraid to use it.

I wonder how many of our young alums and current students even know what that is or have ever seen one! We're showing our age, Loki!

(02-22-2014 02:11 AM)NolaOwl Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 02:08 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 02:03 AM)NolaOwl Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 01:56 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 01:48 AM)NolaOwl Wrote:  Er.....someone must have been an academ and not an SE major!

If this was targeted at me, I merely multiplied 25 times 45,000 to try to get to 11 million.

Next time, you might want to try 250 * 45000 to get there! <g>

However we scratch it, Stanford is clearly much bigger.

Don't make me pull out my slide-rule. I still have one and I'm not afraid to use it.

I wonder how many of our young alums and current students even know what that is or have ever seen one! We're showing our age, Loki!

A couple of weeks ago I went to a museum of calculating machines in Bonn that had an entire room on slide-rules. Highly recommended.

http://www.arithmeum.uni-bonn.de/en/home

(02-21-2014 06:57 PM)ruowls Wrote:  1) Spare water was for Owl 69 and I was mocking Fresno near where I live as well as Global Climate Change for causing the California drought as first reported by our President's recent Fresno visit and his request for $1 billion to fix the problem.

Wait, what? Leebron asked for a billion dollars? Didn't he just raise that much in the century campaign?

(02-21-2014 06:57 PM)ruowls Wrote:  1) Spare water was for Owl 69

Huh?

On topic, if I had to say what should be our aspirational goal in one word, that word would be "Stanford." Having someone out of that program to lead ours is IMO the best way we can go. I just hope that he is here long enough and has enough influence that a significant technology transfer takes place.

(02-22-2014 12:57 AM)bobreinhold1 Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 12:51 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(02-21-2014 08:51 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  ...Stanford has the high academic reputation, but it's a much, much larger university with more than 25 times the number of living alumni...

That stuns me.

Me too. They would have to have 11 million to be 25 times our 45,000 alums. They have 211,000 living alumni.

That's undergrad alums. You need to add the grad schools, with many of the grads (like my brother) staying local and becoming loyal Cardinal sports fans and supporters.

(02-22-2014 09:42 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 12:57 AM)bobreinhold1 Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 12:51 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(02-21-2014 08:51 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  ...Stanford has the high academic reputation, but it's a much, much larger university with more than 25 times the number of living alumni...

That stuns me.

Me too. They would have to have 11 million to be 25 times our 45,000 alums. They have 211,000 living alumni.

That's undergrad alums. You need to add the grad schools, with many of the grads (like my brother) staying local and becoming loyal Cardinal sports fans and supporters.

According to an impeachable source, Wiki, Stanford's total enrollment ( undergrad +grad ) is about 16K+, ours is about 6.3 K.

(02-22-2014 02:13 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  A couple of weeks ago I went to a museum of calculating machines in Bonn that had an entire room on slide-rules. Highly recommended.

http://www.arithmeum.uni-bonn.de/en/home

Thanks! That looks way cool. Funny how many in today's generation might not even comprehend why these machines existed at all, much less for so long a time.

I often worry that if there were ever a significant EM war that these kids used to having electronic calculators at their disposal during their quizzes and tests would even be able to come up with a design for one. And I am reminded of this every time I try to add a few extra coins at the cash register to even out my change and am constantly greeted with questions and looks like I did something wrong...only to be replaced with the awe of wonder when the register gives an even amount for my change. "Brave New World", indeed!

Agreed that Stanford is a good model and they share some of our advantages and challenges...

but as has been pointed out...

we are not the same University in a number of ways.

We can use them as a baseline, but what we do needs to be uniquely 'us'.

As for how long Dr K stays here, I actually broached this with him (obtusely, not directly, but he got the inference) and that is where he spoke of his plan... that it was a generational model (living beyond his tenure, no matter how long that was) along with some immediate things (like the north ez)

I will not one interesting thing...

Texas is certainly a hotbed of athletic talent, but so is California. I find it interesting how many Texans are on the rosters of California teams, but how few Californians are on the rosters of Texas teams... at least ours.

I certainly get focusing on Texas, but sometimes kids just like to go somewhere different for college.

I wish we'd do a better job of using our national network of alumni, small though it may be, to find those great athletes who are also great students.... INCLUDING the academic departments. We could/should work much more closely with the academic side of the University.... Invite those great students in the Palo Alto area to see Rice/Stanford... use the fact that we're already flying out there to bring someone from an academic department or from university recruiting/admissions


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I'm beside myself with curiosity. I can't wait to hear/see the vision unveiled. I realize it's early, but I have a very good feeling about Karlgaard. He looks to have vision and also the ability to carry it out. Even more, I get the feeling that the Rice BOT, administration, and Dr. Leebron finally see that big change must happen if Rice is going to succeed and thrive in Division 1 athletics. They can see that money must be invested and that it should have been done years ago. I don't remember a time when Rice had so many pro-athletics folks in charge. It's refreshing and hopeful.

I'd imagine that the long-term plan would include the establishment of an athletics endowment fund and Karlgaard is obviously the right man to get that going. If Rice can find a way to make close to the kind of money that P5 members make annually from TV payouts, we've made it. And if anyone knows anything about endowments, it's Rice. My question is what is the likelihood that Rice could raise enough money for an athletics endowment? I know that the centennial campaign was enormously successful, but would it be safe to assume that that would translate into the same kind of success on the athletics side? Also, how big would it need to be if it paid us 10% annually? I'm thinking $200 million, but really have no idea.

Finally, someone please tell me where the endzone complex will be located. Has the Greenspan model been trashed in favor of a north complex?