(01-27-2014 11:16 AM)Joe1 Wrote: (01-27-2014 10:08 AM)TripleA Wrote: (01-27-2014 09:16 AM)mairving Wrote: (01-27-2014 04:07 AM)TripleA Wrote: Winning is hard. Especially against good players and great coaches.
Winning is hard. Whining on the other hand is quite easy.
Apparently so. What's even funnier is that if the facts or logic don't support the chosen stance, that doesn't seem to affect the choice.
Are you speaking about what some here expect from Josh?
Yes, but not the stuff you're talking about, unless you're in the, "I'll be 100% critical of Pastner until he makes a few deep runs" category.
And I'm also referring to talking points, in general, not just on this subject, that continue on, long after they have been absolutely refuted by facts.
I have said over and over that most people tend to say good and bad about Josh, which seems reasonable. He's not perfect, and he is not 100% flawed. I'm in that category.
Even constant criticism seems reasonable, if it is backed up by reasoned opinion, or facts, like "Our transition D last night was bad, We gave up 4 uncontested layups."
What I'm referring to is the extreme stuff, w/o facts, logic, or reason, that is a constant drumbeat, regardless of results, game to game. Mostly, these are folks who ONLY show up when things go bad, and never show up to say anything positive, when things go well.
I don't think you qualify, unless you can't think of one thing positive to ever say about Pastner. I don't know. I don't keep individual score, post to post. I usually react to a general tone repeated over and over, not to a specific poster, That comment I cited above is the exception.
The only other thing I usually react to is derogatory personal comments to me, like "You're naive," for example. I take offense to that.
Also, I'm not just talking about Pastner, but anybody who came before or after him not named Kirk or Calipari, lol, b/c nobody else ever did what those two did here. Wind-aided in both cases, unfortunately.
I hope that is clear now.