UTEP in 2012 was the first thing that popped into my mind, but the argument could be made that UTEP and Xavier are both "meh" losses rather than outright bad/embarrassing ones.

Good post - good info.

I would consider our team when evaluating a bad loss.

We didn't have a good team in '09-'10 - the data is pretty clear. In '10-'11 we had an almost all freshman rotation. Plus, we were really thin upfront both years. We didn't have the horses so I don't consider those 'bad losses' in those years.

Michigan St last year. OSU this year. We just didn't compete very hard.

(01-27-2014 03:55 PM)mairving Wrote:  Pastner's 38 losses:

2009-10 Kansas. RPI - 1
2010-11 Kansas. RPI - 1
2012-13 Louisville. RPI - 3
2009-10 Syracuse. RPI - 5
2013-14 Florida. RPI - 5
2012-13 Michigan State. RPI - 9
2010-11 Georgetown. RPI - 13
2011-12 Michigan. RPI - 13
2009-10 Tennessee. RPI - 14
2011-12 Louisville. RPI - 14
2011-12 Georgetown. RPI - 15
2011-12 Georgetown. RPI - 15
2013-14 Oklahoma State. RPI - 15
2010-11 Arizona. RPI - 19
2011-12 Southern Miss. RPI - 21
2011-12 Murray State. RPI - 22
2013-14 Cincinnati. RPI - 22
2012-13 VCU. RPI - 25
2011-12 St Louis. RPI - 31
2010-11 Tennessee. RPI - 33
2012-13 Minnesota. RPI - 34
2009-10 Gonzaga. RPI - 36
2009-10 UTEP. RPI - 38
2013-14 Uconn. RPI - 38

Over 50 RPI:
2010-11 Marshall. RPI - 54
2011-12 UCF. RPI - 54
2010-11 UTEP. RPI - 59
2009-10 Ole Miss. RPI - 61
2010-11 Tulsa. RPI - 81
2012-13 Xavier. RPI - 87
2010-11 ECU. RPI - 96

0ver 100 RPI:
2009-10 Houston. RPI - 110
2009-10 Houston. RPI - 110
2011-12 UTEP. RPI - 147
2009-10 Umass. RPI - 181
2010-11 Rice. RPI - 187
2010-11 SMU. RPI - 207
2009-10 SMU. RPI - 208

Of the 7 losses to over 100 RPI teams, 4 were during Pastner's first year and 6 were during his first 2 years. Only 2 really bad (as far as who we lost to) losses were at home.

(01-27-2014 02:15 PM)jlbphila Wrote:  3 of our 4 losses this year (Cincy, Florida, OK St) were to ranked teams, the other (UConn) is on the fringe of the rankings and likely an NCAA team. Though 2 games were technically upsets, none of these can be called "BAD" losses.

We finished 2012-2013 with a record of 31-5. Of the 5 losses, the worst was probably vs. Minnesota (an NCAA team) on a neutral floor or at Xavier. Though both were upsets, neither was a "BAD" loss in retrospect. Other losses were to VCU, Louisville (eventual champ) and Michigan State. All disappointing, but not bad losses.

I think you have to go all the way back to 2/18/12 vs. UTEP at home to find what can truly be called a "BAD" loss. If I recall correctly it was after that game that Pastner took the names off the jerseys. That's a pretty good thing to go 2 full years without a bad loss.

I'd say the losses to ECU & Rice were our "BAD" losses.
Absolutely no excuse whatsoever.

(01-27-2014 07:50 PM)Psicosis Wrote:  UTEP in 2012 was the first thing that popped into my mind, but the argument could be made that UTEP and Xavier are both "meh" losses rather than outright bad/embarrassing ones.

UTEP under Barbee & then Floyd have given Memphis fits for years now in the regular season.
One team I am glad to not see any longer.

Interesting thread. We don't have a lot of bad losses with Pastner, but the good wins were limited. In part, that was due to limited opportunities and the losses killed our RPI.

We only lose to good teams.