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(01-27-2014 01:12 AM)hooverblazer Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 09:38 PM)Blazer86 Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 09:17 PM)rook360 Wrote:  I'm gonna just say it,
If we "split" would the one in Montgomery go to us or us?
Don't act like some of you didn't think that

Guilty. Although a part of me wonders if the Bot is moving to create an alternate medical center for the UA system when the inevitable split occurs and we get Bham.

Can't say that thought hasn't crossed my mind.

Well if we continue to put our name on it (UAB west in Bessemer, UAB Huntsville, UAB Montgomery) you would think we would get it. But as in most divorces, the mother is usually the one who gets the kids. No matter how big of a cheating, lying, backstabbing, bigoted institution of a whore she is.

UAB is not splitting from the UA system. Just stop talking about it. "Tuscaloosa" isn't creating a "second" medical school/system to rival UAB, UAB isn't breaking off, and Tuscaloosa isn't borrowing against hospital revenues. You people sound like the crazy nutcases that live in cabins and think the Queen of England is a reptile sometimes with your paranoia.

The hospital in Tuscaloosa isn't a UAB hospital, but there is a branch campus of the UAB medical school that trains 3rd/4th year medical students there. I also believe there is a UAB family medicine resident program at that hospital. The reason the Huntsville branch campus has a big shiny UAB building is because that building is solely for the branch campus, clinics, offices, etc. It is completely separate from Huntsville hospital, where the 3rd and 4th year students at that campus do most of their rotations. I'm assuming that the Tuscaloosa branch campus doesn't have a separate building? Maybe that's why UAB isn't plastered all over it. However, that branch cAmpus and residency program in Tuscaloosa are all UAB.

UAB has a big presence in medical training all over the state. Off the top of my head there are residency programs in Selma, Montgomery, bham, Tuscaloosa, and Huntsville. There are probably more that I'm forgetting.

It's a good thing that UAB is making a footprint all over the state. Medicine is the one thig were good at, right? Hahaha..

If I heard it correctly, UAB is putting ten third years at Montgomery. It's not like we're opening a new medical center there.

(01-27-2014 08:23 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  UAB is not splitting from the UA system. Just stop talking about it. "Tuscaloosa" isn't creating a "second" medical school/system to rival UAB, UAB isn't breaking off, and Tuscaloosa isn't borrowing against hospital revenues. You people sound like the crazy nutcases that live in cabins and think the Queen of England is a reptile sometimes with your paranoia.

splitting.....

There will be 10 to begin with, but I think the plan is to beef that up gradually. There are about 30-40 3rd and 30-40 4th years at Huntsville and Tuscaloosa. Although 4th year is a little different because you don't HAVE to stay at the branch campus for your rotations, like third years do.

Is it plausible that the UAB move into Montgomery was prompted by a suspected move there by the USA Medical School and the UA decision makers didn't want to lose influential presence in the state capital? Sort of a "preemptive strike" maneuver.

(01-27-2014 10:42 AM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Is it plausible that the UAB move into Montgomery was prompted by a suspected move there by the USA Medical School and the UA decision makers didn't want to lose influential presence in the state capital? Sort of a "preemptive strike" maneuver.

It probably has more to do with the fact that UAB has been managing some hospital down there, wants to expand the medical school, and put two and two together and this is the logical next step.

There would be nothing wrong with opening a UATSoM in Tuscaloosa. UABSoM is more research-focused, and a family practice and rural medicine focused campus in Tuscaloosa would open UAB up to more out-of-state high-qualifying students. Sharing sites for 3rd and 4th year students with other schools isn't foreign to other state medical systems. And as a nation, we're short on family practice docs.

(01-24-2014 09:55 PM)WesternBlazer Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 09:53 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 09:33 PM)bladhmadh Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 07:49 PM)FNblazer Wrote:  Is the regional campus in Tuscaloosa labeled as a "UAB" campus? I knew we owned that basketball coliseum, but this is news to me.

UAB owns what basketball coliseum in Tuscaloosa?

THE basketball arena in Tuscaloosa.

How'd that happen?

We outbid the gumps 58-56 for ownership.

(01-27-2014 11:29 AM)GreenMississippi Wrote:  There would be nothing wrong with opening a UATSoM in Tuscaloosa. UABSoM is more research-focused, and a family practice and rural medicine focused campus in Tuscaloosa would open UAB up to more out-of-state high-qualifying students. Sharing sites for 3rd and 4th year students with other schools isn't foreign to other state medical systems. And as a nation, we're short on family practice docs.

That's exactly what is in place now, except that there aren't two schools of medicine. There's the University of Alabama School of Medicine at UAB, and then there's the College of Community Health Sciences in Tuscaloosa. I believe the CCHS has some non-MD type stuff they do so it's kind of in the middle of being a straight up "branch" of the UAB School of Medicine, but they still report to UAB for School of Medicine stuff. It's not two different Schools of Medicine.

(01-27-2014 12:06 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(01-27-2014 11:29 AM)GreenMississippi Wrote:  There would be nothing wrong with opening a UATSoM in Tuscaloosa. UABSoM is more research-focused, and a family practice and rural medicine focused campus in Tuscaloosa would open UAB up to more out-of-state high-qualifying students. Sharing sites for 3rd and 4th year students with other schools isn't foreign to other state medical systems. And as a nation, we're short on family practice docs.

That's exactly what is in place now, except that there aren't two schools of medicine. There's the University of Alabama School of Medicine at UAB, and then there's the College of Community Health Sciences in Tuscaloosa. I believe the CCHS has some non-MD type stuff they do so it's kind of in the middle of being a straight up "branch" of the UAB School of Medicine, but they still report to UAB for School of Medicine stuff. It's not two different Schools of Medicine.

Tuscaloosa IS a branch campus of the UAB school of medicine. Huntsville, Tuscaloosa, and now Montgomery are all branch campuses.
http://www.uab.edu/medicine/home/campuses

(01-27-2014 11:00 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(01-27-2014 10:42 AM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Is it plausible that the UAB move into Montgomery was prompted by a suspected move there by the USA Medical School and the UA decision makers didn't want to lose influential presence in the state capital? Sort of a "preemptive strike" maneuver.

It probably has more to do with the fact that UAB has been managing some hospital down there, wants to expand the medical school, and put two and two together and this is the logical next step.

There's been a UAB Internal Medicine residency program in Montgomery at Baptist South Hospital for at least 30 years now. The famous Tinsley Harrison (the Harrison whom a building on UAB's medical campus is named after and the same Harrison who the famous text book of internal medicine is named after) founded the program.

(01-27-2014 01:20 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  

(01-27-2014 12:06 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(01-27-2014 11:29 AM)GreenMississippi Wrote:  There would be nothing wrong with opening a UATSoM in Tuscaloosa. UABSoM is more research-focused, and a family practice and rural medicine focused campus in Tuscaloosa would open UAB up to more out-of-state high-qualifying students. Sharing sites for 3rd and 4th year students with other schools isn't foreign to other state medical systems. And as a nation, we're short on family practice docs.

That's exactly what is in place now, except that there aren't two schools of medicine. There's the University of Alabama School of Medicine at UAB, and then there's the College of Community Health Sciences in Tuscaloosa. I believe the CCHS has some non-MD type stuff they do so it's kind of in the middle of being a straight up "branch" of the UAB School of Medicine, but they still report to UAB for School of Medicine stuff. It's not two different Schools of Medicine.

Tuscaloosa IS a branch campus of the UAB school of medicine. Huntsville, Tuscaloosa, and now Montgomery are all branch campuses. There is also a UAB residency program in Tuscaloosa.

http://www.uab.edu/medicine/home/campuses

So pretty much UAB should get the Tuscaloosa school in a split.

I was mistaken earlier when I said UAB has a family medicine residency program there. I looked at the website and it has all the UAT stuff all over it. HOwever, the UAB medical school still does have a branch campus there where 3rd and 4th year students do rotations - just like in Bham, Huntsville, and now, Montgomery.

(01-27-2014 11:29 AM)GreenMississippi Wrote:  There would be nothing wrong with opening a UATSoM in Tuscaloosa. UABSoM is more research-focused, and a family practice and rural medicine focused campus in Tuscaloosa would open UAB up to more out-of-state high-qualifying students. Sharing sites for 3rd and 4th year students with other schools isn't foreign to other state medical systems. And as a nation, we're short on family practice docs.

Badly short, and many of them are in sight of retirement. The various specialties tend to pay better. Insurance companies are putting increasing pressure on family practice docs to see to it that their insured get regular health maintenance exams, and there will be more and more people looking for GP's as Obamacare kicks in and they have insurance.

We very badly need more students to go that way, much more than we need more dermatologists or something else that pays more.

What I believe we will be seeing is more specialization among young physicians because of the higher fees, but they are not banned from being the primary care physician for many of their patients. My primary care doctor is a Pulmonary specialist at St Vincent's Hospital and he sees me on regular intervals for check ups, even to the "rubber glove" routine. Remember, ALL specialists start out as "GPs" and then specialize in a field that appeals to them. "Family Practice" may just be a term used to make it sound like a "GP" is actually a "specialist".

I agree with Band Dad. The numbers may start shifting towards more and more primary care docs. The country as a whole, and especially in rural states like Alabama, is vastly underserved in terms of primary care. More and more emphasis seems to be shifting towards primary care, prevention, and maintaining a healthy lifestyle (which PCPs are great at), rather than our current system which rewards doctors for performing procedures (akin to putting out fires and treating disasters rather than maintaining a healthy lifestyle and preempting many diseases/pathology).

(01-27-2014 01:40 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  

(01-27-2014 11:29 AM)GreenMississippi Wrote:  There would be nothing wrong with opening a UATSoM in Tuscaloosa. UABSoM is more research-focused, and a family practice and rural medicine focused campus in Tuscaloosa would open UAB up to more out-of-state high-qualifying students. Sharing sites for 3rd and 4th year students with other schools isn't foreign to other state medical systems. And as a nation, we're short on family practice docs.

Badly short, and many of them are in sight of retirement. The various specialties tend to pay better. Insurance companies are putting increasing pressure on family practice docs to see to it that their insured get regular health maintenance exams, and there will be more and more people looking for GP's as Obamacare kicks in and they have insurance.

We very badly need more students to go that way, much more than we need more dermatologists or something else that pays more.

3rd party payers have been trying to make this shift for the last 10 years. They've cut money for procedures but at the same time generally cut physician reimbursement for even a simple office visit. This puts PC physicians in a real bind. They don't get as much for doing in office procedures and they can't make up the difference doing what people want them to do which is seeing patients. Their education and overhead is as much or more in cost.

And there is no mathematical way we can ever meet the demand for primary care coming because of ACA with physicians. The biggest burden is going to fall on mid level practitioners and even then we are going to be woefully short on people. That was one of the arguments used in the ACA debate in congress. It just completely went over their heads.

The other side of the coin is that if they raised the reimbursement for family practitioners they'd get more of them. Frankly, with the push to more preventative medicine, properly done primary care docs can save the system lots of money. Figure on more nurse practitioners as well, although they make my doc's head explode by skimming off the easy quick patients, leaving him the complex and more time consuming ones. He works just silly hours trying to get it all done, the paperwork has become just insane.

As long as kids come out of school with a quarter million in debt they're going to head straight for specialty work, even if you set aside the greed factor.