(01-22-2014 11:31 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Would have to say #1 football
2nd baseball - App State has won 30 games for last 7 or 8 years until last year.
3d cycling or wrestling over the years
women's basketball had a good streak for awhile

We won 30 games in baseball last year as well.

For rankings, I'd go:

1) The SPORT of Track and Field (Men's and Women's)

2) Football

3) Baseball

Our snowboarding team is up there as well. And AHO Rugby can ruck with the best of them. Born on a mountaintop....

(01-22-2014 11:46 PM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  

(01-22-2014 11:31 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Would have to say #1 football
2nd baseball - App State has won 30 games for last 7 or 8 years until last year.
3d cycling or wrestling over the years
women's basketball had a good streak for awhile

We won 30 games in baseball last year as well.

For rankings, I'd go:

1) The SPORT of Track and Field (Men's and Women's)

2) Football

3) Baseball

Our snowboarding team is up there as well. And AHO Rugby can ruck with the best of them. Born on a mountaintop....

Well...Not everyone. We beat everyone in rugby. Usually most teams by 50 points. We've only lost to three universities in the last 5 seasons. Cal, BYU, and Life. All other top 5 Rugby programs.

1. The Water ski team has 25 national championships. 2. Football 3. Baseball

(01-22-2014 09:46 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  Physically demanding isn't a pre-requisite to be a sport. Endurance performances like David Blaine does is extremely physically demanding and requires significant recovery time. It's not a sport.

Having a clear delineation between the best and the rest is also not a pre-requisite. Brick stacking is pretty clear cut who wins and who doesn't. That's not a sport.

It must REALLY suck to just assume your own definition of something and be completely wrong.

"Sport - an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment."

huh... don't see anything in there about the need for a ball. As a matter of fact track and field and wrestling are two of the worlds OLDEST sports. Wrestling obviously spawned out of man's need to see who was the strongest, and track and field developed out of the desire to see which warriors were the fastest and who could hurl boulders, and javelins (spears) the farthest. You sir are either a troll or a moron.

"troll - submit a deliberately provocative posting to an online message board with the aim of inciting an angry response."

"moron - a stupid person."

huh... it appears you're both. :)

(01-22-2014 08:29 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  Track and field is not a sport. There's no ball or ball like substitute. T&F is disqualified.

Love it (though this definition would not eliminate all T&F events - javelin, pole vault, shot put would still be "sports").

My Sports Law professor had the following definition of "sport": "There must be a ball or ball substitute, and running or running substitute that is not incidental to the activity."

By that definition, golf was not a sport, but bowling was (golfers walking is incidental to the activity, but the little "shuffle" bowlers do is part of the throwing motion and therefore not incidental to the activity).

To answer the thread question, I believe that our Sand Volleyball program is in the top-50 nationally (since there are only about 40 programs....).

(01-23-2014 10:35 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(01-22-2014 08:29 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  Track and field is not a sport. There's no ball or ball like substitute. T&F is disqualified.

Love it (though this definition would not eliminate all T&F events - javelin, pole vault, shot put would still be "sports").

My Sports Law professor had the following definition of "sport": "There must be a ball or ball substitute, and running or running substitute that is not incidental to the activity."

By that definition, golf was not a sport, but bowling was (golfers walking is incidental to the activity, but the little "shuffle" bowlers do is part of the throwing motion and therefore not incidental to the activity).

You do realize that the baton that is passed around the track is an original track and field event right? That mimics a ball, the objective was to be the first team to get the baton around the track and across the finish line.

Oh and by the way, T&F is scored with points per event and so it is both an individual and team sport because at the end of the day there is a team that wins based upon the number of points scored in each event.

(01-23-2014 10:41 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 10:35 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(01-22-2014 08:29 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  Track and field is not a sport. There's no ball or ball like substitute. T&F is disqualified.

Love it (though this definition would not eliminate all T&F events - javelin, pole vault, shot put would still be "sports").

My Sports Law professor had the following definition of "sport": "There must be a ball or ball substitute, and running or running substitute that is not incidental to the activity."

By that definition, golf was not a sport, but bowling was (golfers walking is incidental to the activity, but the little "shuffle" bowlers do is part of the throwing motion and therefore not incidental to the activity).

You do realize that the baton that is passed around the track is an original track and field event right? That mimics a ball, the objective was to be the first team to get the baton around the track and across the finish line.

Oh and by the way, T&F is scored with points per event and so it is both an individual and team event because at the end of the day there is a team that wins based upon the number of points scored in each event.

Ok, so add relay events to what is a "sport" (though it could be argued that the baton is incidental to the activity as it is only there to ensure that the relay segments are connected). However, a straight race is not a sport - it is an athletic competition. The "team" nature of T&F does not change this - it just makes it a "team athletic competition".

(01-23-2014 10:46 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 10:41 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 10:35 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(01-22-2014 08:29 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  Track and field is not a sport. There's no ball or ball like substitute. T&F is disqualified.

Love it (though this definition would not eliminate all T&F events - javelin, pole vault, shot put would still be "sports").

My Sports Law professor had the following definition of "sport": "There must be a ball or ball substitute, and running or running substitute that is not incidental to the activity."

By that definition, golf was not a sport, but bowling was (golfers walking is incidental to the activity, but the little "shuffle" bowlers do is part of the throwing motion and therefore not incidental to the activity).

You do realize that the baton that is passed around the track is an original track and field event right? That mimics a ball, the objective was to be the first team to get the baton around the track and across the finish line.

Oh and by the way, T&F is scored with points per event and so it is both an individual and team event because at the end of the day there is a team that wins based upon the number of points scored in each event.

Ok, so add relay events to what is a "sport" (though it could be argued that the baton is incidental to the activity as it is only there to ensure that the relay segments are connected). However, a straight race is not a sport - it is an athletic competition. The "team" nature of T&F does not change this - it just makes it a "team athletic competition".

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Why... Thank you.

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If it is a given that off-season threads are going to go in wildly diverging directions, what is the point of pointing it out every time it happens?


......just wondering.

(just for you)

The Sun Belt used to be good at basketball...UAB, WKU, VCU, Charlotte, Old Dominion

(01-23-2014 03:33 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  The Sun Belt used to be good at basketball...UAB, WKU, VCU, Charlotte, Old Dominion

You leaving out South Alabama on purpose? Before those schools left after the 1991 season South Alabama had a combined 61-67 record against them. Take out UAB who beat us abt 2/3 of the time and USA had a combined record of 51-46 record against Charlotte, VCU, WKU, and ODU.

If you compared the series records of each team against each other until 1991 (before realignment) you get the following win percentage by team, and could see USA probably should have been mentioned as well:

64.67% -- UAB
56.49% -- VCU
48.43% -- ODU
47.66% -- USA
46.36% -- WKU
34.10% -- UNCC

In addition, if you took out the worst series record for each team you got this:

67.96% - UAB
58.87% - VCU
52.08% - USA
51.13% - WKU
50.94% - ODU
36.08% - UNCC

Just sayin'.

(01-23-2014 05:04 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 03:33 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  The Sun Belt used to be good at basketball...UAB, WKU, VCU, Charlotte, Old Dominion

You leaving out South Alabama on purpose? Before those schools left after the 1991 season South Alabama had a combined 61-67 record against them. Take out UAB who beat us abt 2/3 of the time and USA had a combined record of 51-46 record against Charlotte, VCU, WKU, and ODU.

If you compared the series records of each team against each other until 1991 (before realignment) you get the following win percentage by team, and could see USA probably should have been mentioned as well:

64.67% -- UAB
56.49% -- VCU
48.43% -- ODU
47.66% -- USA
46.36% -- WKU
34.10% -- UNCC

Just sayin'.

You beat me too it. The stellar teams of the old SBC can't be discussed without USA. Btw, gonna miss yall next year.. Classy program and classy fans.

(01-23-2014 05:08 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 05:04 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 03:33 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  The Sun Belt used to be good at basketball...UAB, WKU, VCU, Charlotte, Old Dominion

You leaving out South Alabama on purpose? Before those schools left after the 1991 season South Alabama had a combined 61-67 record against them. Take out UAB who beat us abt 2/3 of the time and USA had a combined record of 51-46 record against Charlotte, VCU, WKU, and ODU.

If you compared the series records of each team against each other until 1991 (before realignment) you get the following win percentage by team, and could see USA probably should have been mentioned as well:

64.67% -- UAB
56.49% -- VCU
48.43% -- ODU
47.66% -- USA
46.36% -- WKU
34.10% -- UNCC

Just sayin'.

You beat me too it. The stellar teams of the old SBC can't be discussed without USA. Btw, gonna miss yall next year.. Classy program and classy fans.

WKU is the team that it hurts me the most to lose. We have a long history with each other and have been through a lot together. It's my hope that our presidents are smart and keep each other on the basketball schedule. I enjoyed my two trips to Diddle!

1. Football
2. Golf
3. Volleyball

Baseball has been historically great, but has been underachieving for a long time now.

(01-23-2014 10:46 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 10:41 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 10:35 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(01-22-2014 08:29 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  Track and field is not a sport. There's no ball or ball like substitute. T&F is disqualified.

Love it (though this definition would not eliminate all T&F events - javelin, pole vault, shot put would still be "sports").

My Sports Law professor had the following definition of "sport": "There must be a ball or ball substitute, and running or running substitute that is not incidental to the activity."

By that definition, golf was not a sport, but bowling was (golfers walking is incidental to the activity, but the little "shuffle" bowlers do is part of the throwing motion and therefore not incidental to the activity).

You do realize that the baton that is passed around the track is an original track and field event right? That mimics a ball, the objective was to be the first team to get the baton around the track and across the finish line.

Oh and by the way, T&F is scored with points per event and so it is both an individual and team event because at the end of the day there is a team that wins based upon the number of points scored in each event.

Ok, so add relay events to what is a "sport" (though it could be argued that the baton is incidental to the activity as it is only there to ensure that the relay segments are connected). However, a straight race is not a sport - it is an athletic competition. The "team" nature of T&F does not change this - it just makes it a "team athletic competition".

Sure thing man. You continue to filter whatever it is you want into your narrow definition of "sport" (I'm not saying its wrong), and me and the rest of world will continue to define it otherwise.

I'm best at running slow.

(01-24-2014 08:42 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 10:46 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 10:41 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 10:35 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(01-22-2014 08:29 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  Track and field is not a sport. There's no ball or ball like substitute. T&F is disqualified.

Love it (though this definition would not eliminate all T&F events - javelin, pole vault, shot put would still be "sports").

My Sports Law professor had the following definition of "sport": "There must be a ball or ball substitute, and running or running substitute that is not incidental to the activity."

By that definition, golf was not a sport, but bowling was (golfers walking is incidental to the activity, but the little "shuffle" bowlers do is part of the throwing motion and therefore not incidental to the activity).

You do realize that the baton that is passed around the track is an original track and field event right? That mimics a ball, the objective was to be the first team to get the baton around the track and across the finish line.

Oh and by the way, T&F is scored with points per event and so it is both an individual and team event because at the end of the day there is a team that wins based upon the number of points scored in each event.

Ok, so add relay events to what is a "sport" (though it could be argued that the baton is incidental to the activity as it is only there to ensure that the relay segments are connected). However, a straight race is not a sport - it is an athletic competition. The "team" nature of T&F does not change this - it just makes it a "team athletic competition".

Sure thing man. You continue to filter whatever it is you want into your narrow definition of "sport" (I'm not saying its wrong), and me and the rest of world will continue to define it otherwise.

This.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sport

Quote:sport noun
: a contest or game in which people do certain physical activities according to a specific set of rules and compete against each other

: sports in general

: a physical activity (such as hunting, fishing, running, swimming, etc.) that is done for enjoyment

Sports are like porn: tough to define, but you know it when you see it. Try to define porn too exactly and you end up excluding genuine art. Try to define sports too exactly and you end up excluding Magic: the Gatheri...er, table tennis.