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RE: Anyone else concerned about Joe's 1st half performances?
Looks like Joe has it all figured out as to when he needs to turn it on.
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(01-16-2014 12:29 AM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  Joe Jackson has developed from a talented, but spotty, freshman to a mature floor general who puts the team first, doesn't play for himself, and distributes the ball evenly while showing excellent decision making.

Oh, and he can still get his if need be.

He is having a very solid senior year. I'll roll with Joe and I'm proud of his development. Good times all around.

(it's nice that this is what passing for worrying right about now, isn't it Diego 03-wink )

bet you want to take this post back after watching tonight's game.
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RE: Anyone else concerned about Joe's 1st half performances?
(01-16-2014 09:26 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(01-16-2014 12:29 AM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  Joe Jackson has developed from a talented, but spotty, freshman to a mature floor general who puts the team first, doesn't play for himself, and distributes the ball evenly while showing excellent decision making.

Oh, and he can still get his if need be.

He is having a very solid senior year. I'll roll with Joe and I'm proud of his development. Good times all around.

(it's nice that this is what passing for worrying right about now, isn't it Diego 03-wink )

bet you want to take this post back after watching tonight's game.

Joe has still had a very good season.

Oh, about the 3/1 assist to turnover ratio? Last season 10 of the top 80 in NCAA assists had a 3/1.....most of them were from schools like Green Bay....in fact, only three were from MAJOR programs.
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RE: Anyone else concerned about Joe's 1st half performances?
(01-16-2014 09:34 PM)transitt Wrote:  
(01-16-2014 09:26 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(01-16-2014 12:29 AM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  Joe Jackson has developed from a talented, but spotty, freshman to a mature floor general who puts the team first, doesn't play for himself, and distributes the ball evenly while showing excellent decision making.

Oh, and he can still get his if need be.

He is having a very solid senior year. I'll roll with Joe and I'm proud of his development. Good times all around.

(it's nice that this is what passing for worrying right about now, isn't it Diego 03-wink )

bet you want to take this post back after watching tonight's game.

Joe has still had a very good season.

Oh, about the 3/1 assist to turnover ratio? Last season 10 of the top 80 in NCAA assists had a 3/1.....most of them were from schools like Green Bay....in fact, only three were from MAJOR programs.

Joe is having a very good season.

But, the timing of claiming he is a 2nd half player is not looking so good after a loss in a big game.

Maybe he will play better in the 2nd half against Lemoyne Owen.
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RE: Anyone else concerned about Joe's 1st half performances?
(01-15-2014 01:21 PM)mempho_to_diego Wrote:  Was thinking about this, but Joe hasn't really asserted himself in the 1st half of games - OK State in Orlando, Louisville (4 first half points, 11 second half), Temple and I'm sure some other games as well ...

Not trying to knock Joe, because he has been an absolute BEAST in the 2nd half of these games - just think what he could do if he did it in the 1st half as well.

I do like the fact that Joe has had the ball in his hands at the end of games - we know who is taking the last shot of the game, especially this season. Joe deserves it.

One thing for sure is - Joe has an incredibly long leash in his final season, and that is all good. He has been playing some monster minutes this season.

I want to see Joe for an entire game - that would be something.

Would be nice. I think you should look at the games where he has had the ball in his hands for the win. You might be surprised at the results.
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RE: Anyone else concerned about Joe's 1st half performances?
(01-16-2014 09:36 PM)dan o Wrote:  
(01-16-2014 09:34 PM)transitt Wrote:  
(01-16-2014 09:26 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(01-16-2014 12:29 AM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  Joe Jackson has developed from a talented, but spotty, freshman to a mature floor general who puts the team first, doesn't play for himself, and distributes the ball evenly while showing excellent decision making.

Oh, and he can still get his if need be.

He is having a very solid senior year. I'll roll with Joe and I'm proud of his development. Good times all around.

(it's nice that this is what passing for worrying right about now, isn't it Diego 03-wink )

bet you want to take this post back after watching tonight's game.

Joe has still had a very good season.

Oh, about the 3/1 assist to turnover ratio? Last season 10 of the top 80 in NCAA assists had a 3/1.....most of them were from schools like Green Bay....in fact, only three were from MAJOR programs.

Joe is having a very good season.

But, the timing of claiming he is a 2nd half player is not looking so good after a loss in a big game.

Maybe he will play better in the 2nd half against Lemoyne Owen.

Wow...really? He had a bad game....I know I know....Rose and CDR never had bad games.......
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RE: Anyone else concerned about Joe's 1st half performances?
(01-16-2014 09:38 PM)transitt Wrote:  
(01-16-2014 09:36 PM)dan o Wrote:  
(01-16-2014 09:34 PM)transitt Wrote:  
(01-16-2014 09:26 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(01-16-2014 12:29 AM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  Joe Jackson has developed from a talented, but spotty, freshman to a mature floor general who puts the team first, doesn't play for himself, and distributes the ball evenly while showing excellent decision making.

Oh, and he can still get his if need be.

He is having a very solid senior year. I'll roll with Joe and I'm proud of his development. Good times all around.

(it's nice that this is what passing for worrying right about now, isn't it Diego 03-wink )

bet you want to take this post back after watching tonight's game.

Joe has still had a very good season.

Oh, about the 3/1 assist to turnover ratio? Last season 10 of the top 80 in NCAA assists had a 3/1.....most of them were from schools like Green Bay....in fact, only three were from MAJOR programs.

Joe is having a very good season.

But, the timing of claiming he is a 2nd half player is not looking so good after a loss in a big game.

Maybe he will play better in the 2nd half against Lemoyne Owen.

Wow...really? He had a bad game....I know I know....Rose and CDR never had bad games.......

You know very well I didn't say that
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RE: Anyone else concerned about Joe's 1st half performances?
Not really surprised. It's all about expectations. If you bought into the 'best backcourt', you should have known better. So far the most consistent player on offense and defense is Dixon. JJ has had some good offensive game. The rest are yawners.
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(01-16-2014 09:40 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  Not really surprised. It's all about expectations. If you bought into the 'best backcourt', you should have known better. So far the most consistent player on offense and defense is Dixon. JJ has had some good offensive game. The rest are yawners.

Joe has been much more consistent than Dixon offensively. The stats bear that out.
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(01-16-2014 09:44 PM)transitt Wrote:  
(01-16-2014 09:40 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  Not really surprised. It's all about expectations. If you bought into the 'best backcourt', you should have known better. So far the most consistent player on offense and defense is Dixon. JJ has had some good offensive game. The rest are yawners.

Joe has been much more consistent than Dixon offensively. The stats bear that out.

I said JJ has had some good offensive games. But defense is where we are getting killed on the perimeter. And between JJ and CC, it is really non existent.
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RE: Anyone else concerned about Joe's 1st half performances?
(01-16-2014 09:36 PM)dan o Wrote:  
(01-16-2014 09:34 PM)transitt Wrote:  
(01-16-2014 09:26 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(01-16-2014 12:29 AM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  Joe Jackson has developed from a talented, but spotty, freshman to a mature floor general who puts the team first, doesn't play for himself, and distributes the ball evenly while showing excellent decision making.

Oh, and he can still get his if need be.

He is having a very solid senior year. I'll roll with Joe and I'm proud of his development. Good times all around.

(it's nice that this is what passing for worrying right about now, isn't it Diego 03-wink )

bet you want to take this post back after watching tonight's game.

Joe has still had a very good season.

Oh, about the 3/1 assist to turnover ratio? Last season 10 of the top 80 in NCAA assists had a 3/1.....most of them were from schools like Green Bay....in fact, only three were from MAJOR programs.

Joe is having a very good season.

But, the timing of claiming he is a 2nd half player is not looking so good after a loss in a big game.

Maybe he will play better in the 2nd half against Lemoyne Owen.

I really get tired of Dixon and Joe playing at the same time for long periods of time. Joe is the leader of the team and needs to be on the floor as much as possible. Joe will make some mistakes, but he will make some plays too. Dixon is too streaky.

UCONN beat us tonight because they got back on defense and took away our transition game. That takes away a lot of Joe's game.
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(01-16-2014 09:47 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  
(01-16-2014 09:44 PM)transitt Wrote:  
(01-16-2014 09:40 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  Not really surprised. It's all about expectations. If you bought into the 'best backcourt', you should have known better. So far the most consistent player on offense and defense is Dixon. JJ has had some good offensive game. The rest are yawners.

Joe has been much more consistent than Dixon offensively. The stats bear that out.

I said JJ has had some good offensive games. But defense is where we are getting killed on the perimeter. And between JJ and CC, it is really non existent.

Joe plays decent defense. He doesn't get beaten nearly as much as Crawford.
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RE: Anyone else concerned about Joe's 1st half performances?
(01-16-2014 09:26 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(01-16-2014 12:29 AM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  Joe Jackson has developed from a talented, but spotty, freshman to a mature floor general who puts the team first, doesn't play for himself, and distributes the ball evenly while showing excellent decision making.

Oh, and he can still get his if need be.

He is having a very solid senior year. I'll roll with Joe and I'm proud of his development. Good times all around.

(it's nice that this is what passing for worrying right about now, isn't it Diego 03-wink )

bet you want to take this post back after watching tonight's game.

Nope, he played ok. Shot a few long, had a couple of turnovers I didn't love, but generally played well enough to win.

We clawed back to close, had good defense on two late possessions and UConn hit some tough 'hand in face' shots to ice it. Not thrilled with losing and still concerned about the defense generally (a few too many layups conceded for my taste), but this game did little to change my high opinion of Joe's role on this team and his development.

Just my take, reasonable minds can and do differ.
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RE: Anyone else concerned about Joe's 1st half performances?
Joe played poorly down the stretch tonight. No if ands or buts there.
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(01-17-2014 12:00 AM)DicksHatBand Wrote:  Joe played poorly down the stretch tonight. No if ands or buts there.

this is true, and I'm the biggest Joe fan there is. That being said, no guard shot well % wise.
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(01-15-2014 01:30 PM)mairving Wrote:  
(01-15-2014 01:25 PM)holysheetman Wrote:  No. Joe was interviewed recently saying he is a "2nd half player", and that doesnt mean he slacks around during the 1st half, it just means he really turns it up in the 2nd

Joe gets about 35% of his points from the free throw line. He gets a lot of those free throws late in the 2nd half as well.

Then maybe he should sit for the first half..
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Ain't worried about Joe today ... brilliant performance in both halves!
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