I spent an hour or so yesterday going over all of our offensive possessions. I wrote down each instance where we took bad/contested shots, but didn't bring the sheet to work with me. Basically, as I saw it; this is how things went down.

1st Half:
- the team only took one really bad shot; Shaq's 17 footer.
- we took 2 other shots that I would consider difficult
- every single one of our 3's was shot in rhythm, with one of Dixon's being mildly contested

2nd Half:
- 5 bad/low percentage shots, with a couple of them being Dixon's drives to the basket
- 3 other contested/difficult shots; 1 of which (Crawford's 3) that went in

Nichols
I paid a lot of attention to him and he really really struggled. He had 2 of his shots blocked purely because he didn't go up strong. On his first shot of the game, he had a wide open lane and should have dunked the ball or gone up stronger. He MAY have been a bit off balance, or in between steps, which could have been the cause. In the first half he was involved in at least a half dozen 50/50 balls off of the rim and didn't come up with any of them.

JJ
Had a terrific first half, and then stopped attacking in the 2nd half. His 2nd half was really really bad statistically, but also just as bad in terms of not creating anything for anyone, not attacking, and turning the ball over at bad times. His miss at the front end was also crucial

Crawford
I get on Crawford sometimes; but I'm the most disappointed for him as anyone else. He had a couple of bad turnovers, but he played a GREAT game. He made good decisions, moved the ball well, made quite a few nice passes; got into the lane, and put up only 2 difficult shots; the consecutive 3's; one of which went in. He was extremely unlucky. It is a shame (obviously) that his shot wasn't going in, because everything else he did was really good.

Dixon
Took 2 bad shots, and 2 or 3 others that were difficult, but his aggressiveness wasn't all bad. In the 2nd half, him and Crawford were the only ones that were creating opportunities for others.

The Bigs
Anyone who says that the bigs weren't getting the ball, and didn't have opportunities, wasn't paying attention. There were definitely situations where they were open and the guards didn't feed them, but when they did get the ball, they were extremely timid, and couldn't get decent position inside to score. Shaq also missed out on a ton of 50/50 balls and his hands were horrible.

Turnovers
This was a much bigger problem than shot selection. 16 turnovers in a game with so few possessions was a real killer. In the first half we took very few bad shots; but still only scored 26 points.

Tight Rims At One End
Did anyone notice in the first half that Cincy had at least a half dozen shots go halfway down or rattle in and out; especially in the first 5 minutes? I didn't think too much about it when I watched live, but the same thing happened to us in the 2nd half on many of our shots.

Conclusion
I don't think we had a bad gameplan and I don't think that we were outcoached as badly as a few have suggested. I hate the 4 guard offense as most of us do. Maybe Nichols should have gotten more minutes in the 2nd half, but it wasn't crazy on Pastner's part to not play him. Nick King needs to get in the game in the first 10 minutes. It seems that when he sits for a long time he can't adjust to the speed of the game and he gets lost.

Everything went right for Cincy, including two of their players hiting their 4th 3 pointers of the season against us. Everything went wrong for us. There isn't anything that can be done when you go 9-35 from the field.

(01-08-2014 08:36 AM)Stammers Wrote:  I spent an hour or so yesterday going over all of our offensive possessions. I wrote down each instance where we took bad/contested shots, but didn't bring the sheet to work with me. Basically, as I saw it; this is how things went down.

1st Half:
- the team only took one really bad shot; Shaq's 17 footer.
- we took 2 other shots that I would consider difficult
- every single one of our 3's was shot in rhythm, with one of Dixon's being mildly contested

2nd Half:
- 5 bad/low percentage shots, with a couple of them being Dixon's drives to the basket
- 3 other contested/difficult shots; 1 of which (Crawford's 3) that went in

Nichols
I paid a lot of attention to him and he really really struggled. He had 2 of his shots blocked purely because he didn't go up strong. On his first shot of the game, he had a wide open lane and should have dunked the ball or gone up stronger. He MAY have been a bit off balance, or in between steps, which could have been the cause. In the first half he was involved in at least a half dozen 50/50 balls off of the rim and didn't come up with any of them.

JJ
Had a terrific first half, and then stopped attacking in the 2nd half. His 2nd half was really really bad statistically, but also just as bad in terms of not creating anything for anyone, not attacking, and turning the ball over at bad times. His miss at the front end was also crucial

Crawford
I get on Crawford sometimes; but I'm the most disappointed for him as anyone else. He had a couple of bad turnovers, but he played a GREAT game. He made good decisions, moved the ball well, made quite a few nice passes; got into the lane, and put up only 2 difficult shots; the consecutive 3's; one of which went in. He was extremely unlucky. It is a shame (obviously) that his shot wasn't going in, because everything else he did was really good.

Dixon
Took 2 bad shots, and 2 or 3 others that were difficult, but his aggressiveness wasn't all bad. In the 2nd half, him and Crawford were the only ones that were creating opportunities for others.

The Bigs
Anyone who says that the bigs weren't getting the ball, and didn't have opportunities, wasn't paying attention. There were definitely situations where they were open and the guards didn't feed them, but when they did get the ball, they were extremely timid, and couldn't get decent position inside to score. Shaq also missed out on a ton of 50/50 balls and his hands were horrible.

Turnovers
This was a much bigger problem than shot selection. 16 turnovers in a game with so few possessions was a real killer. In the first half we took very few bad shots; but still only scored 26 points.

Tight Rims At One End
Did anyone notice in the first half that Cincy had at least a half dozen shots go halfway down or rattle in and out; especially in the first 5 minutes? I didn't think too much about it when I watched live, but the same thing happened to us in the 2nd half on many of our shots.

Conclusion
I don't think we had a bad gameplan and I don't think that we were outcoached as badly as a few have suggested. I hate the 4 guard offense as most of us do. Maybe Nichols should have gotten more minutes in the 2nd half, but it wasn't crazy on Pastner's part to not play him. Nick King needs to get in the game in the first 10 minutes. It seems that when he sits for a long time he can't adjust to the speed of the game and he gets lost.

Everything went right for Cincy, including two of their players hiting their 4th 3 pointers of the season against us. Everything went wrong for us. There isn't anything that can be done when you go 9-35 from the field.

^This. Our team is fairly fragile "mentally" and we start pressing and forcing things. When the shots aren't falling we have players who want to step it up. Problem is they really aren't going to help the situation without doing the things that Coach wants them to do - reversing the ball and probing the defense. Being tough mentally is something we did in the OK State 2nd game, but which we did not do Saturday against Cincy. In this league its an attribute we are going to need to develope.

(01-08-2014 09:01 AM)Raleigh_Tiger Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 08:36 AM)Stammers Wrote:  I spent an hour or so yesterday going over all of our offensive possessions. I wrote down each instance where we took bad/contested shots, but didn't bring the sheet to work with me. Basically, as I saw it; this is how things went down.

1st Half:
- the team only took one really bad shot; Shaq's 17 footer.
- we took 2 other shots that I would consider difficult
- every single one of our 3's was shot in rhythm, with one of Dixon's being mildly contested

2nd Half:
- 5 bad/low percentage shots, with a couple of them being Dixon's drives to the basket
- 3 other contested/difficult shots; 1 of which (Crawford's 3) that went in

Nichols
I paid a lot of attention to him and he really really struggled. He had 2 of his shots blocked purely because he didn't go up strong. On his first shot of the game, he had a wide open lane and should have dunked the ball or gone up stronger. He MAY have been a bit off balance, or in between steps, which could have been the cause. In the first half he was involved in at least a half dozen 50/50 balls off of the rim and didn't come up with any of them.

JJ
Had a terrific first half, and then stopped attacking in the 2nd half. His 2nd half was really really bad statistically, but also just as bad in terms of not creating anything for anyone, not attacking, and turning the ball over at bad times. His miss at the front end was also crucial

Crawford
I get on Crawford sometimes; but I'm the most disappointed for him as anyone else. He had a couple of bad turnovers, but he played a GREAT game. He made good decisions, moved the ball well, made quite a few nice passes; got into the lane, and put up only 2 difficult shots; the consecutive 3's; one of which went in. He was extremely unlucky. It is a shame (obviously) that his shot wasn't going in, because everything else he did was really good.

Dixon
Took 2 bad shots, and 2 or 3 others that were difficult, but his aggressiveness wasn't all bad. In the 2nd half, him and Crawford were the only ones that were creating opportunities for others.

The Bigs
Anyone who says that the bigs weren't getting the ball, and didn't have opportunities, wasn't paying attention. There were definitely situations where they were open and the guards didn't feed them, but when they did get the ball, they were extremely timid, and couldn't get decent position inside to score. Shaq also missed out on a ton of 50/50 balls and his hands were horrible.

Turnovers
This was a much bigger problem than shot selection. 16 turnovers in a game with so few possessions was a real killer. In the first half we took very few bad shots; but still only scored 26 points.

Tight Rims At One End
Did anyone notice in the first half that Cincy had at least a half dozen shots go halfway down or rattle in and out; especially in the first 5 minutes? I didn't think too much about it when I watched live, but the same thing happened to us in the 2nd half on many of our shots.

Conclusion
I don't think we had a bad gameplan and I don't think that we were outcoached as badly as a few have suggested. I hate the 4 guard offense as most of us do. Maybe Nichols should have gotten more minutes in the 2nd half, but it wasn't crazy on Pastner's part to not play him. Nick King needs to get in the game in the first 10 minutes. It seems that when he sits for a long time he can't adjust to the speed of the game and he gets lost.

Everything went right for Cincy, including two of their players hiting their 4th 3 pointers of the season against us. Everything went wrong for us. There isn't anything that can be done when you go 9-35 from the field.

^This. Our team is fairly fragile "mentally" and we start pressing and forcing things. When the shots aren't falling we have players who want to step it up. Problem is they really aren't going to help the situation without doing the things that Coach wants them to do - reversing the ball and probing the defense. Being tough mentally is something we did in the OK State 2nd game, but which we did not do Saturday against Cincy. In this league its an attribute we are going to need to develope.

You're another one who sees accurately and it's not the first time I've noticed that either.

(01-08-2014 08:36 AM)Stammers Wrote:  I spent an hour or so yesterday going over all of our offensive possessions. I wrote down each instance where we took bad/contested shots, but didn't bring the sheet to work with me. Basically, as I saw it; this is how things went down.

1st Half:
- the team only took one really bad shot; Shaq's 17 footer.
- we took 2 other shots that I would consider difficult
- every single one of our 3's was shot in rhythm, with one of Dixon's being mildly contested

2nd Half:
- 5 bad/low percentage shots, with a couple of them being Dixon's drives to the basket
- 3 other contested/difficult shots; 1 of which (Crawford's 3) that went in

Nichols
I paid a lot of attention to him and he really really struggled. He had 2 of his shots blocked purely because he didn't go up strong. On his first shot of the game, he had a wide open lane and should have dunked the ball or gone up stronger. He MAY have been a bit off balance, or in between steps, which could have been the cause. In the first half he was involved in at least a half dozen 50/50 balls off of the rim and didn't come up with any of them.

JJ
Had a terrific first half, and then stopped attacking in the 2nd half. His 2nd half was really really bad statistically, but also just as bad in terms of not creating anything for anyone, not attacking, and turning the ball over at bad times. His miss at the front end was also crucial

Crawford
I get on Crawford sometimes; but I'm the most disappointed for him as anyone else. He had a couple of bad turnovers, but he played a GREAT game. He made good decisions, moved the ball well, made quite a few nice passes; got into the lane, and put up only 2 difficult shots; the consecutive 3's; one of which went in. He was extremely unlucky. It is a shame (obviously) that his shot wasn't going in, because everything else he did was really good.

Dixon
Took 2 bad shots, and 2 or 3 others that were difficult, but his aggressiveness wasn't all bad. In the 2nd half, him and Crawford were the only ones that were creating opportunities for others.

The Bigs
Anyone who says that the bigs weren't getting the ball, and didn't have opportunities, wasn't paying attention. There were definitely situations where they were open and the guards didn't feed them, but when they did get the ball, they were extremely timid, and couldn't get decent position inside to score. Shaq also missed out on a ton of 50/50 balls and his hands were horrible.

Turnovers
This was a much bigger problem than shot selection. 16 turnovers in a game with so few possessions was a real killer. In the first half we took very few bad shots; but still only scored 26 points.

Tight Rims At One End
Did anyone notice in the first half that Cincy had at least a half dozen shots go halfway down or rattle in and out; especially in the first 5 minutes? I didn't think too much about it when I watched live, but the same thing happened to us in the 2nd half on many of our shots.

Conclusion
I don't think we had a bad gameplan and I don't think that we were outcoached as badly as a few have suggested. I hate the 4 guard offense as most of us do. Maybe Nichols should have gotten more minutes in the 2nd half, but it wasn't crazy on Pastner's part to not play him. Nick King needs to get in the game in the first 10 minutes. It seems that when he sits for a long time he can't adjust to the speed of the game and he gets lost.

Everything went right for Cincy, including two of their players hiting their 4th 3 pointers of the season against us. Everything went wrong for us. There isn't anything that can be done when you go 9-35 from the field.

Yep...they definately had tight rims....

They did what coach wanted (shoot 3s) which is why coach unleashed the 4G offense in the 2nd half.

Mental toughness was not an issue...size was. They attempted to drive the lane just as they did in the 1s half however its hard to do when all your players are 6'3" and smaller..... I doubt that type of size struck fear into Cincy's shot blockers.

(01-08-2014 09:01 AM)Raleigh_Tiger Wrote:  ^This. Our team is fairly fragile "mentally" and we start pressing and forcing things. When the shots aren't falling we have players who want to step it up. Problem is they really aren't going to help the situation without doing the things that Coach wants them to do - reversing the ball and probing the defense. Being tough mentally is something we did in the OK State 2nd game, but which we did not do Saturday against Cincy. In this league its an attribute we are going to need to develope.

TEN blocks by Cincy for the game and only four by Memphis.

Guess what, Austin had 2 in the first few mins along with one by Pellom. Of the 4Gs who played virtually the entire game, only one block was tallied.

Again, this his nothing to do with toughness and everything to do with size. If Josh was a boxing manager, he'd have feather weights matched against heavy weights.

i notice you didn't mention the multiple times crawford didn't go for rebounds or try to help on the glass. Honest to god, what isn't a great game if you shoot 2-11, don't hustle, and have perhaps the worst turnover of the season (he threw the alley oop to Geron literally 3 seconds too late)

your assessment of the game, surprise surprise, is the exact same thing you thought the 1st time around. You didn't understand all the aspects of the game the 1st time you watched it, and you missed all the same stuff the 2nd time.

(01-08-2014 04:57 PM)jgardne Wrote:  i notice you didn't mention the multiple times crawford didn't go for rebounds or try to help on the glass. Honest to god, what isn't a great game if you shoot 2-11, don't hustle, and have perhaps the worst turnover of the season (he threw the alley oop to Geron literally 3 seconds too late)

your assessment of the game, surprise surprise, is the exact same thing you thought the 1st time around. You didn't understand all the aspects of the game the 1st time you watched it, and you missed all the same stuff the 2nd time.

I clearly mentioned turnovers as a major factor. 9-35 buddy; most of them wide open. You don't have a clue.

(01-08-2014 04:57 PM)jgardne Wrote:  i notice you didn't mention the multiple times crawford didn't go for rebounds or try to help on the glass. Honest to god, what isn't a great game if you shoot 2-11, don't hustle, and have perhaps the worst turnover of the season (he threw the alley oop to Geron literally 3 seconds too late)

your assessment of the game, surprise surprise, is the exact same thing you thought the 1st time around. You didn't understand all the aspects of the game the 1st time you watched it, and you missed all the same stuff the 2nd time.

(01-08-2014 01:15 PM)BK#14 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 08:36 AM)Stammers Wrote:  I spent an hour or so yesterday going over all of our offensive possessions. I wrote down each instance where we took bad/contested shots, but didn't bring the sheet to work with me. Basically, as I saw it; this is how things went down.

1st Half:
- the team only took one really bad shot; Shaq's 17 footer.
- we took 2 other shots that I would consider difficult
- every single one of our 3's was shot in rhythm, with one of Dixon's being mildly contested

2nd Half:
- 5 bad/low percentage shots, with a couple of them being Dixon's drives to the basket
- 3 other contested/difficult shots; 1 of which (Crawford's 3) that went in

Nichols
I paid a lot of attention to him and he really really struggled. He had 2 of his shots blocked purely because he didn't go up strong. On his first shot of the game, he had a wide open lane and should have dunked the ball or gone up stronger. He MAY have been a bit off balance, or in between steps, which could have been the cause. In the first half he was involved in at least a half dozen 50/50 balls off of the rim and didn't come up with any of them.

JJ
Had a terrific first half, and then stopped attacking in the 2nd half. His 2nd half was really really bad statistically, but also just as bad in terms of not creating anything for anyone, not attacking, and turning the ball over at bad times. His miss at the front end was also crucial

Crawford
I get on Crawford sometimes; but I'm the most disappointed for him as anyone else. He had a couple of bad turnovers, but he played a GREAT game. He made good decisions, moved the ball well, made quite a few nice passes; got into the lane, and put up only 2 difficult shots; the consecutive 3's; one of which went in. He was extremely unlucky. It is a shame (obviously) that his shot wasn't going in, because everything else he did was really good.

Dixon
Took 2 bad shots, and 2 or 3 others that were difficult, but his aggressiveness wasn't all bad. In the 2nd half, him and Crawford were the only ones that were creating opportunities for others.

The Bigs
Anyone who says that the bigs weren't getting the ball, and didn't have opportunities, wasn't paying attention. There were definitely situations where they were open and the guards didn't feed them, but when they did get the ball, they were extremely timid, and couldn't get decent position inside to score. Shaq also missed out on a ton of 50/50 balls and his hands were horrible.

Turnovers
This was a much bigger problem than shot selection. 16 turnovers in a game with so few possessions was a real killer. In the first half we took very few bad shots; but still only scored 26 points.

Tight Rims At One End
Did anyone notice in the first half that Cincy had at least a half dozen shots go halfway down or rattle in and out; especially in the first 5 minutes? I didn't think too much about it when I watched live, but the same thing happened to us in the 2nd half on many of our shots.

Conclusion
I don't think we had a bad gameplan and I don't think that we were outcoached as badly as a few have suggested. I hate the 4 guard offense as most of us do. Maybe Nichols should have gotten more minutes in the 2nd half, but it wasn't crazy on Pastner's part to not play him. Nick King needs to get in the game in the first 10 minutes. It seems that when he sits for a long time he can't adjust to the speed of the game and he gets lost.

Everything went right for Cincy, including two of their players hiting their 4th 3 pointers of the season against us. Everything went wrong for us. There isn't anything that can be done when you go 9-35 from the field.

Yep...they definately had tight rims....

I think we are still using NBA rims and they are very strict about the tension level on all of their rims...Normally tighter than what college gyms from what I have heard.

(01-09-2014 03:42 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 01:15 PM)BK#14 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 08:36 AM)Stammers Wrote:  I spent an hour or so yesterday going over all of our offensive possessions. I wrote down each instance where we took bad/contested shots, but didn't bring the sheet to work with me. Basically, as I saw it; this is how things went down.

1st Half:
- the team only took one really bad shot; Shaq's 17 footer.
- we took 2 other shots that I would consider difficult
- every single one of our 3's was shot in rhythm, with one of Dixon's being mildly contested

2nd Half:
- 5 bad/low percentage shots, with a couple of them being Dixon's drives to the basket
- 3 other contested/difficult shots; 1 of which (Crawford's 3) that went in

Nichols
I paid a lot of attention to him and he really really struggled. He had 2 of his shots blocked purely because he didn't go up strong. On his first shot of the game, he had a wide open lane and should have dunked the ball or gone up stronger. He MAY have been a bit off balance, or in between steps, which could have been the cause. In the first half he was involved in at least a half dozen 50/50 balls off of the rim and didn't come up with any of them.

JJ
Had a terrific first half, and then stopped attacking in the 2nd half. His 2nd half was really really bad statistically, but also just as bad in terms of not creating anything for anyone, not attacking, and turning the ball over at bad times. His miss at the front end was also crucial

Crawford
I get on Crawford sometimes; but I'm the most disappointed for him as anyone else. He had a couple of bad turnovers, but he played a GREAT game. He made good decisions, moved the ball well, made quite a few nice passes; got into the lane, and put up only 2 difficult shots; the consecutive 3's; one of which went in. He was extremely unlucky. It is a shame (obviously) that his shot wasn't going in, because everything else he did was really good.

Dixon
Took 2 bad shots, and 2 or 3 others that were difficult, but his aggressiveness wasn't all bad. In the 2nd half, him and Crawford were the only ones that were creating opportunities for others.

The Bigs
Anyone who says that the bigs weren't getting the ball, and didn't have opportunities, wasn't paying attention. There were definitely situations where they were open and the guards didn't feed them, but when they did get the ball, they were extremely timid, and couldn't get decent position inside to score. Shaq also missed out on a ton of 50/50 balls and his hands were horrible.

Turnovers
This was a much bigger problem than shot selection. 16 turnovers in a game with so few possessions was a real killer. In the first half we took very few bad shots; but still only scored 26 points.

Tight Rims At One End
Did anyone notice in the first half that Cincy had at least a half dozen shots go halfway down or rattle in and out; especially in the first 5 minutes? I didn't think too much about it when I watched live, but the same thing happened to us in the 2nd half on many of our shots.

Conclusion
I don't think we had a bad gameplan and I don't think that we were outcoached as badly as a few have suggested. I hate the 4 guard offense as most of us do. Maybe Nichols should have gotten more minutes in the 2nd half, but it wasn't crazy on Pastner's part to not play him. Nick King needs to get in the game in the first 10 minutes. It seems that when he sits for a long time he can't adjust to the speed of the game and he gets lost.

Everything went right for Cincy, including two of their players hiting their 4th 3 pointers of the season against us. Everything went wrong for us. There isn't anything that can be done when you go 9-35 from the field.

Yep...they definately had tight rims....

I think we are still using NBA rims and they are very strict about the tension level on all of their rims...Normally tighter than what college gyms from what I have heard.

I definitely noticed that we were lucky in the first 5 minutes or so. At least 3 or 4 of Cincy's shots were almost halfway down.

(01-09-2014 03:42 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 01:15 PM)BK#14 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 08:36 AM)Stammers Wrote:  I spent an hour or so yesterday going over all of our offensive possessions. I wrote down each instance where we took bad/contested shots, but didn't bring the sheet to work with me. Basically, as I saw it; this is how things went down.

1st Half:
- the team only took one really bad shot; Shaq's 17 footer.
- we took 2 other shots that I would consider difficult
- every single one of our 3's was shot in rhythm, with one of Dixon's being mildly contested

2nd Half:
- 5 bad/low percentage shots, with a couple of them being Dixon's drives to the basket
- 3 other contested/difficult shots; 1 of which (Crawford's 3) that went in

Nichols
I paid a lot of attention to him and he really really struggled. He had 2 of his shots blocked purely because he didn't go up strong. On his first shot of the game, he had a wide open lane and should have dunked the ball or gone up stronger. He MAY have been a bit off balance, or in between steps, which could have been the cause. In the first half he was involved in at least a half dozen 50/50 balls off of the rim and didn't come up with any of them.

JJ
Had a terrific first half, and then stopped attacking in the 2nd half. His 2nd half was really really bad statistically, but also just as bad in terms of not creating anything for anyone, not attacking, and turning the ball over at bad times. His miss at the front end was also crucial

Crawford
I get on Crawford sometimes; but I'm the most disappointed for him as anyone else. He had a couple of bad turnovers, but he played a GREAT game. He made good decisions, moved the ball well, made quite a few nice passes; got into the lane, and put up only 2 difficult shots; the consecutive 3's; one of which went in. He was extremely unlucky. It is a shame (obviously) that his shot wasn't going in, because everything else he did was really good.

Dixon
Took 2 bad shots, and 2 or 3 others that were difficult, but his aggressiveness wasn't all bad. In the 2nd half, him and Crawford were the only ones that were creating opportunities for others.

The Bigs
Anyone who says that the bigs weren't getting the ball, and didn't have opportunities, wasn't paying attention. There were definitely situations where they were open and the guards didn't feed them, but when they did get the ball, they were extremely timid, and couldn't get decent position inside to score. Shaq also missed out on a ton of 50/50 balls and his hands were horrible.

Turnovers
This was a much bigger problem than shot selection. 16 turnovers in a game with so few possessions was a real killer. In the first half we took very few bad shots; but still only scored 26 points.

Tight Rims At One End
Did anyone notice in the first half that Cincy had at least a half dozen shots go halfway down or rattle in and out; especially in the first 5 minutes? I didn't think too much about it when I watched live, but the same thing happened to us in the 2nd half on many of our shots.

Conclusion
I don't think we had a bad gameplan and I don't think that we were outcoached as badly as a few have suggested. I hate the 4 guard offense as most of us do. Maybe Nichols should have gotten more minutes in the 2nd half, but it wasn't crazy on Pastner's part to not play him. Nick King needs to get in the game in the first 10 minutes. It seems that when he sits for a long time he can't adjust to the speed of the game and he gets lost.

Everything went right for Cincy, including two of their players hiting their 4th 3 pointers of the season against us. Everything went wrong for us. There isn't anything that can be done when you go 9-35 from the field.

Yep...they definately had tight rims....

I think we are still using NBA rims and they are very strict about the tension level on all of their rims...Normally tighter than what college gyms from what I have heard.

Grizzlies top 3-shooters are all down this year, too. I'm wondering if there's something different in FEF this year for both teams.