(01-08-2014 12:21 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 12:06 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Exactly. Everyone should honor where they came from in this way.

Why? I don't give 2 ***** where I "came from" and I'm not sure why some folks are pretending they have something to do with Africa, Ireland, Italy, etc. Most folks wouldn't have a clue how to get by if you dropped them off where they supposedly "came from".

I came from my mother and father who are both Americans as were many generations before me. Therefore I'm an American, period.

Because it's a status maker. There's probably about 2% of people in America that can actually tell you where exactly they came from, and not just name a country they've probably never even read about.

"Heinz 57-American" here :) (or is it "Mutt-American"?)

(01-08-2014 12:21 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 12:06 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Exactly. Everyone should honor where they came from in this way.

Why? I don't give 2 ***** where I "came from" and I'm not sure why some folks are pretending they have something to do with Africa, Ireland, Italy, etc. Most folks wouldn't have a clue how to get by if you dropped them off where they supposedly "came from".

I came from my mother and father who are both Americans as were many generations before me. Therefore I'm an American, period.

I think it is something that is almost uniquely American because almost everyone in America came from somewhere else. That is what makes us a melting pot.

As strange as it seems, and some would raise the rafters that it's not true, but we are all native Americans, if born here.

(01-08-2014 02:14 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  As strange as it seems, and some would raise the rafters that it's not true, but we are all native Americans, if born here.

Technically, this is correct. Which is why I have often seen textbooks that refer to the people who lived here before the arrival of Europeans as "The First Americans".

(01-08-2014 01:54 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  "Heinz 57-American" here :) (or is it "Mutt-American"?)

We'll just throw you in the category of Racist-American and welcome you to the penthouse, called Stereotype, of Club Bigotry... None of us are actually racist, but we're all here

(01-08-2014 03:49 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 02:14 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  As strange as it seems, and some would raise the rafters that it's not true, but we are all native Americans, if born here.

Technically, this is correct. Which is why I have often seen textbooks that refer to the people who lived here before the arrival of Europeans as "The First Americans".

According to YOUR title, sir, you're one of those All-Americans... Or maybe that's just because of your post count

(01-06-2014 02:38 PM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  Definitely not universal. You have:

Blacks
Spooks
Negroes
Niggaz
Antique Farm Equipment
Apple
Aunt Jamima
Blackie
Boogie
Bootlip
Brillo Pad
Bro
Buckwheat
Bumper Lips
Canadian
Coalminer
Colored
Cornbread
Cornelius
Cotton-Picker
Homey/Homie
Jigaboo
Jungle Bunny
Lawn Jockey
Tar Baby
Welfare Monkeys
wind chimes

You forgot Darkies & Porch Monkeys.

(01-08-2014 05:43 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  You forgot Darkies & Porch Monkeys.

That's enough out of you today, bumper lips.

(01-09-2014 09:34 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 05:43 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  You forgot Darkies & Porch Monkeys.

That's enough out of you today, bumper lips.

Wide nose, breathing all the white man's air!

(01-09-2014 09:39 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 09:34 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 05:43 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  You forgot Darkies & Porch Monkeys.

That's enough out of you today, bumper lips.

Wide nose, breathing all the white man's air!

Go have a Hennessey & Purple drank on me. Matter of fact, have enough to beat your old lady again. 2 should do it.

(01-09-2014 10:10 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 09:39 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 09:34 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 05:43 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  You forgot Darkies & Porch Monkeys.

That's enough out of you today, bumper lips.

Wide nose, breathing all the white man's air!

Go have a Hennessey & Purple drank on me. Matter of fact, have enough to beat your old lady again. 2 should do it.

Go put some big @ss rims on your car and name your 5 kids something that starts with La and ends with Qa.

(01-09-2014 11:14 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 10:10 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 09:39 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 09:34 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 05:43 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  You forgot Darkies & Porch Monkeys.

That's enough out of you today, bumper lips.

Wide nose, breathing all the white man's air!

Go have a Hennessey & Purple drank on me. Matter of fact, have enough to beat your old lady again. 2 should do it.

Go put some big @ss rims on your car and name your 5 kids something that starts with La and ends with Qa.

Don't you have a job interview you're late for?

(01-07-2014 04:26 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(01-07-2014 10:16 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  I use "black". That doesn't seem to offend anyone.

You'll offend very, very few if you simply use black. I've never heard anyone take offense.

In the late 1980/early 1990s, there were some on the fringe (poets, community activists, and the like) that complained the term black brought out connotations of evil and was a system indication of racist intent by using a label that equated a race with evil. That's when the six syllable label gained traction.

Perhaps my recollection of hearing some on the fringe (regardless of personal opinion on how kooky they were) colored my acceptance of it.

Similarly, there exist people that take great offense with the term "Latino/Latina", or even "Oriental", both of which are apparently very controversial. Apparently by the community activists of the Latino or Oriental communities...

Similar to your comment, wiki has an interesting section on its origins...
African American - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Am...erminology Wrote:Surveys show that the majority of Black Americans have no preference for "African American" versus "Black,"[157] although they have a slight preference for "Black" in personal settings and "African American" in more formal settings.[158]

also...

Online Etymology Dictionary

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term...n-American Wrote:African-American isolated instances from at least 1863 (Afro-American is attested in 1853, in freemen's publications in Canada), but the modern use is a re-invention first attested 1969 (in reference to the African-American Teachers Association) which became the preferred term in some circles for "U.S. black" (noun or adjective) by the late 1980s. Mencken, 1921, reports Aframerican "is now very commonly used in the Negro press."

(01-09-2014 01:01 PM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 11:14 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 10:10 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 09:39 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 09:34 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  That's enough out of you today, bumper lips.

Wide nose, breathing all the white man's air!

Go have a Hennessey & Purple drank on me. Matter of fact, have enough to beat your old lady again. 2 should do it.

Go put some big @ss rims on your car and name your 5 kids something that starts with La and ends with Qa.

Don't you have a job interview you're late for?

Not only am I black, but I'm highly offended at you two honkies.

(01-09-2014 01:15 PM)I45owl Wrote:  

(01-07-2014 04:26 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(01-07-2014 10:16 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  I use "black". That doesn't seem to offend anyone.

You'll offend very, very few if you simply use black. I've never heard anyone take offense.

In the late 1980/early 1990s, there were some on the fringe (poets, community activists, and the like) that complained the term black brought out connotations of evil and was a system indication of racist intent by using a label that equated a race with evil. That's when the six syllable label gained traction.

Perhaps my recollection of hearing some on the fringe (regardless of personal opinion on how kooky they were) colored my acceptance of it.

Similarly, there exist people that take great offense with the term "Latino/Latina", or even "Oriental", both of which are apparently very controversial. Apparently by the community activists of the Latino or Oriental communities...

Similar to your comment, wiki has an interesting section on its origins...
African American - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Am...erminology Wrote:Surveys show that the majority of Black Americans have no preference for "African American" versus "Black,"[157] although they have a slight preference for "Black" in personal settings and "African American" in more formal settings.[158]

also...

Online Etymology Dictionary

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term...n-American Wrote:African-American isolated instances from at least 1863 (Afro-American is attested in 1853, in freemen's publications in Canada), but the modern use is a re-invention first attested 1969 (in reference to the African-American Teachers Association) which became the preferred term in some circles for "U.S. black" (noun or adjective) by the late 1980s. Mencken, 1921, reports Aframerican "is now very commonly used in the Negro press."

I think the mainstreaming for "African-American" came from a desire to name ourselves. Negro and Colored were names given, just like Oriental. To Asian people, Oriental is an object not a person.

(01-09-2014 03:08 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 01:15 PM)I45owl Wrote:  

(01-07-2014 04:26 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(01-07-2014 10:16 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  I use "black". That doesn't seem to offend anyone.

You'll offend very, very few if you simply use black. I've never heard anyone take offense.

In the late 1980/early 1990s, there were some on the fringe (poets, community activists, and the like) that complained the term black brought out connotations of evil and was a system indication of racist intent by using a label that equated a race with evil. That's when the six syllable label gained traction.

Perhaps my recollection of hearing some on the fringe (regardless of personal opinion on how kooky they were) colored my acceptance of it.

Similarly, there exist people that take great offense with the term "Latino/Latina", or even "Oriental", both of which are apparently very controversial. Apparently by the community activists of the Latino or Oriental communities...

Similar to your comment, wiki has an interesting section on its origins...
African American - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Am...erminology Wrote:Surveys show that the majority of Black Americans have no preference for "African American" versus "Black,"[157] although they have a slight preference for "Black" in personal settings and "African American" in more formal settings.[158]

also...

Online Etymology Dictionary

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term...n-American Wrote:African-American isolated instances from at least 1863 (Afro-American is attested in 1853, in freemen's publications in Canada), but the modern use is a re-invention first attested 1969 (in reference to the African-American Teachers Association) which became the preferred term in some circles for "U.S. black" (noun or adjective) by the late 1980s. Mencken, 1921, reports Aframerican "is now very commonly used in the Negro press."

I think the mainstreaming for "African-American" came from a desire to name ourselves. Negro and Colored were names given, just like Oriental. To Asian people, Oriental is an object not a person.

What about Mexican? I think other countries call us cowboys or something like that.

(01-09-2014 03:02 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 01:01 PM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 11:14 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 10:10 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 09:39 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Wide nose, breathing all the white man's air!

Go have a Hennessey & Purple drank on me. Matter of fact, have enough to beat your old lady again. 2 should do it.

Go put some big @ss rims on your car and name your 5 kids something that starts with La and ends with Qa.

Don't you have a job interview you're late for?

Not only am I black, but I'm highly offended at you two honkies.

Blacks are born offended.

(01-09-2014 03:17 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 03:08 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 01:15 PM)I45owl Wrote:  

(01-07-2014 04:26 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(01-07-2014 10:16 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  I use "black". That doesn't seem to offend anyone.

You'll offend very, very few if you simply use black. I've never heard anyone take offense.

In the late 1980/early 1990s, there were some on the fringe (poets, community activists, and the like) that complained the term black brought out connotations of evil and was a system indication of racist intent by using a label that equated a race with evil. That's when the six syllable label gained traction.

Perhaps my recollection of hearing some on the fringe (regardless of personal opinion on how kooky they were) colored my acceptance of it.

Similarly, there exist people that take great offense with the term "Latino/Latina", or even "Oriental", both of which are apparently very controversial. Apparently by the community activists of the Latino or Oriental communities...

Similar to your comment, wiki has an interesting section on its origins...
African American - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Am...erminology Wrote:Surveys show that the majority of Black Americans have no preference for "African American" versus "Black,"[157] although they have a slight preference for "Black" in personal settings and "African American" in more formal settings.[158]

also...

Online Etymology Dictionary

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term...n-American Wrote:African-American isolated instances from at least 1863 (Afro-American is attested in 1853, in freemen's publications in Canada), but the modern use is a re-invention first attested 1969 (in reference to the African-American Teachers Association) which became the preferred term in some circles for "U.S. black" (noun or adjective) by the late 1980s. Mencken, 1921, reports Aframerican "is now very commonly used in the Negro press."

I think the mainstreaming for "African-American" came from a desire to name ourselves. Negro and Colored were names given, just like Oriental. To Asian people, Oriental is an object not a person.

What about Mexican? I think other countries call us cowboys or something like that.

Mexican is an actual nationality.

(01-09-2014 03:20 PM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 03:02 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 01:01 PM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 11:14 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 10:10 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  Go have a Hennessey & Purple drank on me. Matter of fact, have enough to beat your old lady again. 2 should do it.

Go put some big @ss rims on your car and name your 5 kids something that starts with La and ends with Qa.

Don't you have a job interview you're late for?

Not only am I black, but I'm highly offended at you two honkies.

Blacks are born offended.

I'm suing. You called me black. I won't stand for this type of behavior