Think we out rebounded them, because we missed 14 threes and countless other shots that bounced far off the rim. I just thought Austin should have got back in the 2nd half because he was playing good defense. When we had 4 guards in they still managed to get a bunch of open 3's which really opened the game up and caused us to panic. We got away from our game. Players and Partner deserve some blame.

(01-04-2014 02:05 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  Pastner is not the man for the job. I don't see how anyone can still defend him

This...

Ikr. All the folks here who claim we "won the rebounding battle" fail to mention who won the 2nd chance points battle.

When we did collect an off. rebnd we chucked up another 3 and clanked it while cincy scored layups on theirs.

Maybe one of the "we won the rbnd war" people will drop the 2nd chance points stat. Maybe not...

(01-04-2014 03:04 PM)cbhstiger Wrote:  Think we out rebounded them, because we missed 14 threes and countless other shots that bounced far off the rim. I just thought Austin should have got back in the 2nd half because he was playing good defense. When we had 4 guards in they still managed to get a bunch of open 3's which really opened the game up and caused us to panic. We got away from our game. Players and Partner deserve some blame.

(01-04-2014 03:10 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 02:05 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  Pastner is not the man for the job. I don't see how anyone can still defend him

This...

Good call Sybil...hilarious.

(01-04-2014 03:19 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 03:10 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 02:05 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  Pastner is not the man for the job. I don't see how anyone can still defend him

This...

Good call Sybil...hilarious.

There is ceiling on a Josh Pastner team and it's good but not great...

Just when you think Pastner gets it, you quickly realize how wrong that theory is. Today was an example of just that.

(01-04-2014 01:57 PM)thetigerchad Wrote:  Nicols looks sick. My question is why is Dixon still in and Joe isn't?

because Josh has to have his way. he is the coach we aren't and he will get his way, period.

(01-04-2014 03:23 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 01:57 PM)thetigerchad Wrote:  Nicols looks sick. My question is why is Dixon still in and Joe isn't?

because Josh has to have his way. he is the coach we aren't and he will get his way, period.

And his way is simply flawed when the game changes. Flawed and mystifying.

(01-04-2014 02:21 PM)cbhstiger Wrote:  I don't understand the game plan today, specifically the 2nd half. You have got to play King, Nichols, and maybe even Dom or Kuran when we are getting killed on the boards and not making any shots. So stubborn.

4 guards may work well against certain teams, but when it isn't why not make an adjustment?

He doesn't make adjustments because then it will look like he was wrong in the first place. That's what insecure stubborn coaches do.

I've been saying it for several games now, that he has to get these other guys developed for times like this when our starters are having an off night.

Now its too late because we're in conference play. If anything, its going to get worse. He'll probably dig in even deeper with an even shorter rotation as he starts to panic.

(01-04-2014 03:32 PM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 02:21 PM)cbhstiger Wrote:  I don't understand the game plan today, specifically the 2nd half. You have got to play King, Nichols, and maybe even Dom or Kuran when we are getting killed on the boards and not making any shots. So stubborn.

4 guards may work well against certain teams, but when it isn't why not make an adjustment?

He doesn't make adjustments because then it will look like he was wrong in the first place. That's what insecure stubborn coaches do.

I've been saying it for several games now, that he has to get these other guys developed for times like this when our starters are having an off night.

Now its too late because we're in conference play. If anything, its going to get worse. He'll probably dig in even deeper with an even shorter rotation as he starts to panic.

Do you really believe this? Not being a smartass....serious question.

(01-04-2014 03:32 PM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 02:21 PM)cbhstiger Wrote:  I don't understand the game plan today, specifically the 2nd half. You have got to play King, Nichols, and maybe even Dom or Kuran when we are getting killed on the boards and not making any shots. So stubborn.

4 guards may work well against certain teams, but when it isn't why not make an adjustment?

He doesn't make adjustments because then it will look like he was wrong in the first place. That's what insecure stubborn coaches do.

I've been saying it for several games now, that he has to get these other guys developed for times like this when our starters are having an off night.

Now its too late because we're in conference play. If anything, its going to get worse. He'll probably dig in even deeper with an even shorter rotation as he starts to panic.

Exactly, exactly, exactly right!

(01-04-2014 03:35 PM)Tanyaskees Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 03:32 PM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 02:21 PM)cbhstiger Wrote:  I don't understand the game plan today, specifically the 2nd half. You have got to play King, Nichols, and maybe even Dom or Kuran when we are getting killed on the boards and not making any shots. So stubborn.

4 guards may work well against certain teams, but when it isn't why not make an adjustment?

He doesn't make adjustments because then it will look like he was wrong in the first place. That's what insecure stubborn coaches do.

I've been saying it for several games now, that he has to get these other guys developed for times like this when our starters are having an off night.

Now its too late because we're in conference play. If anything, its going to get worse. He'll probably dig in even deeper with an even shorter rotation as he starts to panic.

Do you really believe this? Not being a smartass....serious question.

Yes I do. I believe he is insecure about his decision making. So not to look like he doesn't know what he's doing, he keeps on doing what he's doing. Wanting to be right is more important than doing the right thing. That is also a symptom of narcissism. You can look it up.

(01-04-2014 03:46 PM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 03:35 PM)Tanyaskees Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 03:32 PM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 02:21 PM)cbhstiger Wrote:  I don't understand the game plan today, specifically the 2nd half. You have got to play King, Nichols, and maybe even Dom or Kuran when we are getting killed on the boards and not making any shots. So stubborn.

4 guards may work well against certain teams, but when it isn't why not make an adjustment?

He doesn't make adjustments because then it will look like he was wrong in the first place. That's what insecure stubborn coaches do.

I've been saying it for several games now, that he has to get these other guys developed for times like this when our starters are having an off night.

Now its too late because we're in conference play. If anything, its going to get worse. He'll probably dig in even deeper with an even shorter rotation as he starts to panic.

Do you really believe this? Not being a smartass....serious question.

Yes I do. I believe he is insecure about his decision making. So not to look like he doesn't know what he's doing, he keeps on doing what he's doing. Wanting to be right is more important than doing the right thing. That is also a symptom of narcissism. You can look it up.

i don't think he's stubborn. I believe he legitimately doesn't understand or see how being small is such a big disadvantage for us. It is just something in how he sees the game. It's the same thing about his huge phobia of opponents hitting 3s that he will give up easy drives to the hole to prevent it. He places too much emphasis on the perimeter aspects of the game

I think diagnosing Pastner, of all people, with Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a bit rich.

(01-04-2014 03:51 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  I think diagnosing Pastner, of all people, with Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a bit rich.

NPD is much less about arrogance and being conceited then it is about insecurity. Insecurity is what I'm talking about. A lot of what I see in him is eerily similar to someone I know very well who was diagnosed with NPD.

(01-04-2014 02:21 PM)cbhstiger Wrote:  I don't understand the game plan today, specifically the 2nd half. You have got to play King, Nichols, and maybe even Dom or Kuran when we are getting killed on the boards and not making any shots. So stubborn.

4 guards may work well against certain teams, but when it isn't why not make an adjustment?

agree. The worst that could have happened if he'd made some adjustments is that we might have lost by a few more points, but the line up we were playing wasn't getting it done against Cincy.

I think the reason why Pastner plays shorter guys is because he is short himself and feels like he wanted to give shorter guys a chance...

(01-04-2014 04:04 PM)MemphisTigers2009 Wrote:  I think the reason why Pastner plays shorter guys is because he is short himself and feels like he wanted to give shorter guys a chance...

So what you're saying is that he is willing to give shorter guys a chance even though it cost us the game? That's stretching it. No one is that stupid. And Josh hates to lose, so it really is a stretch.

(01-04-2014 04:08 PM)Tanyaskees Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 04:04 PM)MemphisTigers2009 Wrote:  I think the reason why Pastner plays shorter guys is because he is short himself and feels like he wanted to give shorter guys a chance...

So what you're saying is that he is willing to give shorter guys a chance even though it cost us the game? That's stretching it. No one is that stupid. And Josh hates to lose, so it really is a stretch.

Well he doesn't seem to get the idea if he really wants to win... Plenty of bigs but doesn't use them... 4 guards won't work in this conference and this conference isn't that great anyway

Well, I doubt any of us are psychologists or psychiatrists, and a long distance diagnoses is never anything but problematic at best, but lets see:

Quote:Narcissistic Personality Disorder is characterized by a long-standing pattern of grandiosity (either in fantasy or actual behavior), an overwhelming need for admiration, and usually a complete lack of empathy toward others. People with this disorder often believe they are of primary importance in everybody’s life or to anyone they meet. While this pattern of behavior may be appropriate for a king in 16th Century England, it is generally considered inappropriate for most ordinary people today.

People with narcissistic personality disorder often display snobbish, disdainful, or patronizing attitudes. For example, an individual with this disorder may complain about a clumsy waiter’s “rudeness” or “stupidity” or conclude a medical evaluation with a condescending evaluation of the physician.

In laypeople terms, someone with this disorder may be described simply as a “narcissist” or as someone with “narcissism.” Both of these terms generally refer to someone with narcissistic personality disorder.

Symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
In order for a person to be diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) they must meet five or more of the following symptoms:

- Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

- Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

- Believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
Requires excessive admiration

- Has a very strong sense of entitlement, e.g., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations.

- Is exploitative of others, e.g., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends.

- Lacks empathy, e.g., is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

- Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
Regularly shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

Yeah. That sounds like Josh "every team is a great team, well coached, plays hard" Pastner all right. Josh "unbounded positivity and enthusiasm is an asset on the recruiting trail" Pastner. Josh "I'm willing to reply to any rando that emails me at 4 in the morning" Pastner.

I mean, I guess it could all be a put on and Pastner is really a self absorbed status seeker who is possessed by and seething with resentments over perceived status slights and consumed with the need to cut others down in order prop himself up and is willing to use others to their disadvantage in order to gain what he believes is rightfully his.


But I just don't see it.

(01-04-2014 03:55 PM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 03:51 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  I think diagnosing Pastner, of all people, with Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a bit rich.

NPD is much less about arrogance and being conceited then it is about insecurity. Insecurity is what I'm talking about. A lot of what I see in him is eerily similar to someone I know very well who was diagnosed with NPD.

Thanks for the laugh!