(01-03-2014 09:54 AM)missjtiger Wrote:  Trust the coach until you have absolute reason not to.

Major red flag even before season started when he benched returning starter and named replacement 3 days into pads and BEFORE the first scrimmage. The signs were there, just some people refused to see them.

(01-04-2014 09:46 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  You can't throw the players under the bus as CJF did in his post game interview and not expect players to take offense. Have uneasy feel this will not be only departure.

Read the thread before posting.
Craig isn't leaving.
He isn't upset.
Tweeting is a terrible idea.
Coach didn't throw anyone under the bus.
From day one he had been a "frank" speaker.
A little reality and honesty and open expression of high expectations is refreshing.

(01-04-2014 09:56 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 09:54 AM)missjtiger Wrote:  Trust the coach until you have absolute reason not to.

Major red flag even before season started when he benched returning starter and named replacement 3 days into pads and BEFORE the first scrimmage. The signs were there, just some people refused to see them.

Your red flag, I call that being a coach, making a decision and sticking by it. None of us here know what all went in to his decision, until you DO, best to just let it go.

(01-04-2014 09:46 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  You can't throw the players under the bus as CJF did in his post game interview and not expect players to take offense. Have uneasy feel this will not be only departure.

ncrdbly wrong

(01-04-2014 09:58 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 09:46 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  You can't throw the players under the bus as CJF did in his post game interview and not expect players to take offense. Have uneasy feel this will not be only departure.

Read the thread before posting.
Craig isn't leaving.
He isn't upset.
Tweeting is a terrible idea.
Coach didn't throw anyone under the bus.
From day one he had been a "frank" speaker.
A little reality and honesty and open expression of high expectations is refreshing.

So we need to find another reason to bash the coach?

(01-04-2014 10:38 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 09:58 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 09:46 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  You can't throw the players under the bus as CJF did in his post game interview and not expect players to take offense. Have uneasy feel this will not be only departure.

Read the thread before posting.
Craig isn't leaving.
He isn't upset.
Tweeting is a terrible idea.
Coach didn't throw anyone under the bus.
From day one he had been a "frank" speaker.
A little reality and honesty and open expression of high expectations is refreshing.

So we need to find another reason to bash the coach?

Folks actively seeking reasons, valid or not, will find it.

(01-04-2014 09:56 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 09:54 AM)missjtiger Wrote:  Trust the coach until you have absolute reason not to.

Major red flag even before season started when he benched returning starter and named replacement 3 days into pads and BEFORE the first scrimmage. The signs were there, just some people refused to see them.

ya ever think that maybe there was a reason that the returning starter was benched and the coach showed a lot of restraint by not addressing it?

(01-04-2014 10:40 AM)btiger Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 09:56 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 09:54 AM)missjtiger Wrote:  Trust the coach until you have absolute reason not to.

Major red flag even before season started when he benched returning starter and named replacement 3 days into pads and BEFORE the first scrimmage. The signs were there, just some people refused to see them.

ya ever think that maybe there was a reason that the returning starter was benched and the coach showed a lot of restraint by not addressing it?

you shouldn't have included "think" in that post.

(01-04-2014 07:13 AM)roachman48 Wrote:  So glad Craig is returning. He is good

The truth would be better communicated by someone changing the OP title.

(01-04-2014 10:40 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 10:38 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 09:58 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 09:46 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  You can't throw the players under the bus as CJF did in his post game interview and not expect players to take offense. Have uneasy feel this will not be only departure.

Read the thread before posting.
Craig isn't leaving.
He isn't upset.
Tweeting is a terrible idea.
Coach didn't throw anyone under the bus.
From day one he had been a "frank" speaker.
A little reality and honesty and open expression of high expectations is refreshing.

So we need to find another reason to bash the coach?

Folks actively seeking reasons, valid or not, will find it.

I guess all fan bases deal with this. Right now, from what I can see, we're damned lucky to have Fuente and Pastner both. Almost like somebody who knew what they were doing is in charge.

(01-04-2014 10:48 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 10:40 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 10:38 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 09:58 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 09:46 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  You can't throw the players under the bus as CJF did in his post game interview and not expect players to take offense. Have uneasy feel this will not be only departure.

Read the thread before posting.
Craig isn't leaving.
He isn't upset.
Tweeting is a terrible idea.
Coach didn't throw anyone under the bus.
From day one he had been a "frank" speaker.
A little reality and honesty and open expression of high expectations is refreshing.

So we need to find another reason to bash the coach?

Folks actively seeking reasons, valid or not, will find it.

I guess all fan bases deal with this. Right now, from what I can see, we're damned lucky to have Fuente and Pastner both. Almost like somebody who knew what they were doing is in charge.

Yes

(01-04-2014 10:49 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 10:48 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  I guess all fan bases deal with this. Right now, from what I can see, we're damned lucky to have Fuente and Pastner both. Almost like somebody who knew what they were doing is in charge.

Yes

Second that emotion---in both cases

(01-04-2014 10:48 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 10:40 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 10:38 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 09:58 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 09:46 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  You can't throw the players under the bus as CJF did in his post game interview and not expect players to take offense. Have uneasy feel this will not be only departure.

Read the thread before posting.
Craig isn't leaving.
He isn't upset.
Tweeting is a terrible idea.
Coach didn't throw anyone under the bus.
From day one he had been a "frank" speaker.
A little reality and honesty and open expression of high expectations is refreshing.

So we need to find another reason to bash the coach?

Folks actively seeking reasons, valid or not, will find it.

I guess all fan bases deal with this. Right now, from what I can see, we're damned lucky to have Fuente and Pastner both. Almost like somebody who knew what they were doing is in charge.

except that RC hired Fuente & Pastner

(01-04-2014 01:00 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 10:48 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 10:40 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 10:38 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 09:58 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  Read the thread before posting.
Craig isn't leaving.
He isn't upset.
Tweeting is a terrible idea.
Coach didn't throw anyone under the bus.
From day one he had been a "frank" speaker.
A little reality and honesty and open expression of high expectations is refreshing.

So we need to find another reason to bash the coach?

Folks actively seeking reasons, valid or not, will find it.

I guess all fan bases deal with this. Right now, from what I can see, we're damned lucky to have Fuente and Pastner both. Almost like somebody who knew what they were doing is in charge.

except that RC hired Fuente & Pastner

RC didn't hire Fuente.

(01-04-2014 09:56 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(01-03-2014 09:54 AM)missjtiger Wrote:  Trust the coach until you have absolute reason not to.

Major red flag even before season started when he benched returning starter and named replacement 3 days into pads and BEFORE the first scrimmage. The signs were there, just some people refused to see them.

You sure do love some misery.

(01-04-2014 01:00 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 10:48 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 10:40 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 10:38 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 09:58 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  Read the thread before posting.
Craig isn't leaving.
He isn't upset.
Tweeting is a terrible idea.
Coach didn't throw anyone under the bus.
From day one he had been a "frank" speaker.
A little reality and honesty and open expression of high expectations is refreshing.

So we need to find another reason to bash the coach?

Folks actively seeking reasons, valid or not, will find it.

I guess all fan bases deal with this. Right now, from what I can see, we're damned lucky to have Fuente and Pastner both. Almost like somebody who knew what they were doing is in charge.

except that RC hired Fuente & Pastner

RC nothing to do with Fuente

RC hired josh after he botched the search and was turned down by everyone on his 'list'

(01-04-2014 01:00 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 10:48 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 10:40 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 10:38 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 09:58 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  Read the thread before posting.
Craig isn't leaving.
He isn't upset.
Tweeting is a terrible idea.
Coach didn't throw anyone under the bus.
From day one he had been a "frank" speaker.
A little reality and honesty and open expression of high expectations is refreshing.

So we need to find another reason to bash the coach?

Folks actively seeking reasons, valid or not, will find it.

I guess all fan bases deal with this. Right now, from what I can see, we're damned lucky to have Fuente and Pastner both. Almost like somebody who knew what they were doing is in charge.

except that RC hired Fuente & Pastner

Thus my use of the present tense and not the past; RC might have hired Pastner, but someone competent is in charge NOW and they are still here. Fuente even kept his entire staff together for two years.