Unreal. How have I not heard about this until now?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/secret-cold-...use-worry/

You know, I would probably jump on the libertarian train over matters like this if it wasn't for the pesky legalize drugs angle.

Humans are capable of great and terrible things. Our government has a lot to hide, and unfortunately those responsible for atrocities such as this are often beyond accountability.

Quote:In social policy, he sent federal troops to Little Rock, Arkansas, for the first time since Reconstruction to enforce federal court orders to desegregate public schools. He also signed civil rights legislation in 1957 and 1960 to protect the right to vote. He implemented desegregation of the armed forces in two years and made five appointments to the Supreme Court.

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As the 1954 congressional elections approached, and it became evident that the Republicans were in danger of losing their thin majority in both houses, Eisenhower was among those blaming the Old Guard for the losses, and took up the charge to stop suspected efforts by the right wing to take control of the GOP. Ike then articulated his position as a moderate, progressive Republican: "I have just one purpose ... and that is to build up a strong progressive Republican Party in this country. If the right wing wants a fight, they are going to get it ... before I end up, either this Republican Party will reflect progressivism or I won't be with them anymore."

Nevertheless, the Cold War escalated during his presidency. When Russia successfully tested a hydrogen bomb, Eisenhower, against the advice of Dulles, decided to initiate a disarmament proposal to the Russians. In an attempt to make their refusal more difficult, he proposed that both sides agree to dedicate fissionable material away from weapons toward peaceful uses, such as power generation. This approach was labeled "Atoms for Peace".

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In 1954 Ike wanted to increase surveillance inside the Soviet Union. With Dulles' recommendation, he authorized the deployment of thirty Lockheed U-2's at a cost of $35 million.[141] The Eisenhower administration also planned the Bay of Pigs Invasion to overthrow Fidel Castro in Cuba, which John F. Kennedy was left to carry out.

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This prevented Eisenhower from openly condemning Joseph McCarthy's highly criticized methods against communism. In order to facilitate relations with Congress, Ike decided to ignore McCarthy's controversies and thereby deprive them of more energy from involvement of the White House. This position drew criticism from a number of corners.[192] In late 1953 McCarthy declared on national T.V. that the employment of communists within the government was a menace and would be a pivotal issue in the 1954 elections. Ike was urged to respond directly and specify the various measures he had taken to purge the government of communists.[193] Nevertheless he refused.

History of this period seems to be extremely similar to the current times. Obama is most similar to Eisenhower, without any of the good things like infrastructure improvements.

(01-01-2014 11:15 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  You know, I would probably jump on the libertarian train over matters like this if it wasn't for the pesky legalize drugs angle.

Get stoned with your buddies, watching Spongebob, and eating Cheetos in your basement is a little different than spraying radioactive zinc cadmium sulfide and poisoning a major US city.

(01-01-2014 11:15 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  You know, I would probably jump on the libertarian train over matters like this if it wasn't for the pesky legalize drugs angle.

I couldn't give a rats ass if pot was legal or not, but glad to know you're on board with the government not poisoning us.

Prime example of how an overreaching, powerful, federal gov't goes off the rails and does exactly the opposite of what is supposed to be doing for the people. And in secret. The NSA is no different. A secret org., run by a secret court will always use it's power for no good, in the name of securing the people.

(01-01-2014 11:51 AM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 11:15 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  You know, I would probably jump on the libertarian train over matters like this if it wasn't for the pesky legalize drugs angle.

Get stoned with your buddies, watching Spongebob, and eating Cheetos in your basement is a little different than spraying radioactive zinc cadmium sulfide and poisoning a major US city.

Right, but I cannot support a party that focuses this much on legalizing drugs and other wacked out agendas.

If they were actually as vocal over stuff like this and supported a moral society, I would get behind them.

(01-01-2014 12:21 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 11:51 AM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 11:15 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  You know, I would probably jump on the libertarian train over matters like this if it wasn't for the pesky legalize drugs angle.

Get stoned with your buddies, watching Spongebob, and eating Cheetos in your basement is a little different than spraying radioactive zinc cadmium sulfide and poisoning a major US city.

Right, but I cannot support a party that focuses this much on legalizing drugs and other wacked out agendas.

If they were actually as vocal over stuff like this and supported a moral society, I would get behind them.

It is hyprocitcy. When the liberals would be barking at the gates, shouting supremacy clause against states for doing things that do not support the communist agenda, and say nothing when Washington and Colorado legalize pot.

(01-01-2014 12:54 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 12:21 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 11:51 AM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 11:15 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  You know, I would probably jump on the libertarian train over matters like this if it wasn't for the pesky legalize drugs angle.

Get stoned with your buddies, watching Spongebob, and eating Cheetos in your basement is a little different than spraying radioactive zinc cadmium sulfide and poisoning a major US city.

Right, but I cannot support a party that focuses this much on legalizing drugs and other wacked out agendas.

If they were actually as vocal over stuff like this and supported a moral society, I would get behind them.

It is hyprocitcy. When the liberals would be barking at the gates, shouting supremacy clause against states for doing things that do not support the communist agenda, and say nothing when Washington and Colorado legalize pot.

Agreed, and its stuff like that that bring about images of radical liberals when I envision a libertarian sitting on his computer typing.

(01-01-2014 12:02 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 11:15 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  You know, I would probably jump on the libertarian train over matters like this if it wasn't for the pesky legalize drugs angle.

I couldn't give a rats ass if pot was legal or not, but glad to know you're on board with the government not poisoning us.

You have no moral backbone but suddenly don't trust the govt when it comes to things other than them taxing marijuana or ruling on issues like marriage.

Can we restart this program?

Maybe hit cities like Detroit, St. Louis, Memphis, Washington DC?

(01-01-2014 01:02 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 12:02 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 11:15 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  You know, I would probably jump on the libertarian train over matters like this if it wasn't for the pesky legalize drugs angle.

I couldn't give a rats ass if pot was legal or not, but glad to know you're on board with the government not poisoning us.

You have no moral backbone but suddenly don't trust the govt when it comes to things other than them taxing marijuana or ruling on issues like marriage.

I don't trust the government at all.

You seem to only trust it when a Republican is office.

I have no moral backbone? You're just the sort of party hack that let a Republican president get away with this.

(01-01-2014 02:53 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 01:02 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 12:02 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 11:15 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  You know, I would probably jump on the libertarian train over matters like this if it wasn't for the pesky legalize drugs angle.

I couldn't give a rats ass if pot was legal or not, but glad to know you're on board with the government not poisoning us.

You have no moral backbone but suddenly don't trust the govt when it comes to things other than them taxing marijuana or ruling on issues like marriage.

I don't trust the government at all.

You seem to only trust it when a Republican is office.

I have no moral backbone? You're just the sort of party hack that let a Republican president get away with this.

This has nothing to do with being a Republican. I has to do with you being a social liberal.

(01-01-2014 03:27 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 02:53 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 01:02 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 12:02 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 11:15 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  You know, I would probably jump on the libertarian train over matters like this if it wasn't for the pesky legalize drugs angle.

I couldn't give a rats ass if pot was legal or not, but glad to know you're on board with the government not poisoning us.

You have no moral backbone but suddenly don't trust the govt when it comes to things other than them taxing marijuana or ruling on issues like marriage.

I don't trust the government at all.

You seem to only trust it when a Republican is office.

I have no moral backbone? You're just the sort of party hack that let a Republican president get away with this.

This has nothing to do with being a Republican. I has to do with you being a social liberal.

The more posts I see you make, the more I wonder if you are really a liberal trolling the board.

(01-01-2014 03:27 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 02:53 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 01:02 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 12:02 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 11:15 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  You know, I would probably jump on the libertarian train over matters like this if it wasn't for the pesky legalize drugs angle.

I couldn't give a rats ass if pot was legal or not, but glad to know you're on board with the government not poisoning us.

You have no moral backbone but suddenly don't trust the govt when it comes to things other than them taxing marijuana or ruling on issues like marriage.

I don't trust the government at all.

You seem to only trust it when a Republican is office.

I have no moral backbone? You're just the sort of party hack that let a Republican president get away with this.

This has nothing to do with being a Republican. I has to do with you being a social liberal.

Odd. I thought it was about a government under a republican president using biological agents on American citizens.

(01-01-2014 04:07 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 03:27 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 02:53 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 01:02 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 12:02 PM)Smaug Wrote:  I couldn't give a rats ass if pot was legal or not, but glad to know you're on board with the government not poisoning us.

You have no moral backbone but suddenly don't trust the govt when it comes to things other than them taxing marijuana or ruling on issues like marriage.

I don't trust the government at all.

You seem to only trust it when a Republican is office.

I have no moral backbone? You're just the sort of party hack that let a Republican president get away with this.

This has nothing to do with being a Republican. I has to do with you being a social liberal.

Odd. I thought it was about a government under a republican president using biological agents on American citizens.

Check and mate.

To be honest - and I'm saying this as a liberal - it should be more of the idea that a president regardless of party did this. Of course, people like okra little dorky are gonna twist the politics of it... but the fact is it doesn't matter who does it if it's wrong.

(01-01-2014 04:07 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 03:27 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 02:53 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 01:02 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 12:02 PM)Smaug Wrote:  I couldn't give a rats ass if pot was legal or not, but glad to know you're on board with the government not poisoning us.

You have no moral backbone but suddenly don't trust the govt when it comes to things other than them taxing marijuana or ruling on issues like marriage.

I don't trust the government at all.

You seem to only trust it when a Republican is office.

I have no moral backbone? You're just the sort of party hack that let a Republican president get away with this.

This has nothing to do with being a Republican. I has to do with you being a social liberal.

Odd. I thought it was about a government under a republican president using biological agents on American citizens.

I'm not talking about the story. I made a comment about libertarians and why I cannot get behind them in regards to this story. You chimed in and I called you on your hypocrisy.

You are no different than the very people you condemn.

You chimed in and I called you on your hypocrisy.

You are no different than the very people you condemn.

(01-01-2014 04:21 PM)Smaug Wrote:  You chimed in and I called you on your hypocrisy.

You are no different than the very people you condemn.

I'm pretty clear on what I support.