(12-30-2013 11:45 PM)WKUYG Wrote: I wasn't the one saying Western was clearly the stronger program I just pointed out the facts and let them speak for them self that the person was wrong
It really would be nice if there were more SBC fans that didn't think having a conference with 7 out of 10 schools with a 33% or lower winning % as strong. If we want to talk about selective who was it that probably looked at 5 or 6 RPI sites and pulled the one that showed the SBC in the best light...even if that RPI was totally different from the others? Yeah that's what I thought
What was selective? I did a 13 year span and gave the option to do less or more and lets do that...
Last 6 years 4 NCAA bids and a sweet 16 along with 2 other wins
Last year NCAA bid and 20 wins
last 2 years 2 ncaa bids and 1 tourney win
last 5 years 3 NCAA tourney bids and 2 ncaa wins
last 20 years 9 NCAA bids and 8 NCAA wins along with 2 sweet 16s
What is selective about that? covers short, recent, and past
now lets look at wins
Last 13 years...10 out of 13 with 20 or more wins
20
16
16
21
25
29
22
23
22
15
24
28
24
from 1996-2000 were bad year...welll bad by Western's standard
11
13
10
12
13
'92,'93,'94,'95
27
20
26
21
You can spin it all you want. But it is clear that NMSU has been the better program the last few years.
2006/07 - NMSU 25-9 WAC regular season runner-ups, WAC tourney champs, NCAA tourney appearance. WKU 22-11, SBC regular season runner-ups.
2007/08 - NMSU 21-14, WAC regular season champs, WAC tourney finalists. WKU 29-7, SBC regular season and tourney champs, NCAA sweet sixteen.
2008/09 - NMSU 17-15. WKU 25-8, SBC regular season and tourney champs, round of 32.
2009/10 - NMSU 22-12, WAC regular season runner-ups, WAC tourney champs, NCAA appearance. WKU 21-13.
2010/11 - NMSU 16-17. WKU 16-16.
2011/12 - NMSU 26-9, WAC regular season runner-ups, WAC tourney champs, NCAA appearance. WKU 16-19, SBC tourney champs, NCAA play-in win.
2012/13 - NMSU 24-11, WAC tourney champs, NCAA appearance. WKU 20-15, NCAA appearance.
In that time frame NMSU is 151-87. WKU is 149-89. In the last four years, it is NMSU 88-49. WKU is 73-63.
WKU is a more traditioned program, no question. But now, NMSU is a more quality program. During this time frame, the WAC was a better conference with the possible exception of last year. And they still have more wins. You have more tourney wins (can you stop holding the play-in game as a tourney win, not even the SLC does that), but NMSU has been getting seeds where they can, not play-in or 16 seeds.
This isn't a knock to WKU, just the facts as I see them.