(12-16-2013 08:53 PM)blazr Wrote:  

(12-16-2013 07:02 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  So does this mean McGee gets to stay? Sad.

Just his 2nd season. Hard to judge him competing with one full class of his newcomers and that weird semi-his class coaches all get when they arrive. Injuries were particularly bad this year, too, on defense. We'll want to see improvement next season no doubt, but no school can succeed going thru new HC's every year or two.

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You UAB folks have a lot more patience with your HC than a certain fanbase just 250 miles northwest of you had with one of their own.

(12-19-2013 10:06 PM)TG4 Wrote:  

(12-16-2013 08:53 PM)blazr Wrote:  

(12-16-2013 07:02 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  So does this mean McGee gets to stay? Sad.

Just his 2nd season. Hard to judge him competing with one full class of his newcomers and that weird semi-his class coaches all get when they arrive. Injuries were particularly bad this year, too, on defense. We'll want to see improvement next season no doubt, but no school can succeed going thru new HC's every year or two.

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You UAB folks have a lot more patience with your HC than a certain fanbase just 250 miles northwest of you had with one of their own.

There wasn't exactly a tradition of excellence for McGee to build on. The program was better than after Watson Brown "scorched earth" his way out of town in 2006, but McGee still took over a program that had 6 straight losing seasons.

(12-19-2013 03:05 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  If you give up 8 TDs to a team that had collectively scored 12 in the previous 11 games......yeah....this had to happen.

And that safety y'all picked on all day?

His first 3.5 years here he played running back.

That should tell you all you need to know about how hard the injury bug bit us.

(12-20-2013 09:56 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(12-19-2013 03:05 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  If you give up 8 TDs to a team that had collectively scored 12 in the previous 11 games......yeah....this had to happen.

And that safety y'all picked on all day?

His first 3.5 years here he played running back.

That should tell you all you need to know about how hard the injury bug bit us.

We totally feel your pain on that one. We were playing with completely overmatched and undersized freshmen for the bulk of the season on defense.

Remember now that Tulane just went 7-5 after a 2-10 campaign last year. CJ was in his 2nd year - and McGee will be in his 2nd year come August. It can be done, folks.

There are some differences between the situation at each school, but even then I think that UAB should win 4+ games next year.

(12-20-2013 12:50 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Remember now that Tulane just went 7-5 after a 2-10 campaign last year. CJ was in his 2nd year - and McGee will be in his 2nd year come August. It can be done, folks.

There are some differences between the situation at each school, but even then I think that UAB should win 4+ games next year.

McGee will be in his 3rd Year

(12-20-2013 01:56 PM)ICB Wrote:  

(12-20-2013 12:50 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Remember now that Tulane just went 7-5 after a 2-10 campaign last year. CJ was in his 2nd year - and McGee will be in his 2nd year come August. It can be done, folks.

There are some differences between the situation at each school, but even then I think that UAB should win 4+ games next year.

McGee will be in his 3rd Year

This coming season should be the do-or-die campaign, then. Six wins or goodbye (at least if I were the AD).

(12-20-2013 02:09 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(12-20-2013 01:56 PM)ICB Wrote:  

(12-20-2013 12:50 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Remember now that Tulane just went 7-5 after a 2-10 campaign last year. CJ was in his 2nd year - and McGee will be in his 2nd year come August. It can be done, folks.

There are some differences between the situation at each school, but even then I think that UAB should win 4+ games next year.

McGee will be in his 3rd Year

This coming season should be the do-or-die campaign, then. Six wins or goodbye (at least if I were the AD).

That could very well be the size of it....Our fan base is not as patient overall as many would like to believe, I've stated ad nauseum that UAB had a very favorable schedule this season, but did not seize the moment to shine, rather to stink. More than half of the games the Blazers lost this season were winnable, or they were in reasonable position to win them, but instead, found the most creative ways to lose them in the end.

We're at our wit's end as football fans here, next season has to be "it" for UAB, or Coach McGee's name will surely become a topic in several "hot seat" conversations, if not already so.

And for the record, I don't blame Southern Miss one single, tiny bit for the action they took with Ellis Johnson after just one season. It only takes one match to burn a thousand trees...

(12-20-2013 02:09 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(12-20-2013 01:56 PM)ICB Wrote:  

(12-20-2013 12:50 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Remember now that Tulane just went 7-5 after a 2-10 campaign last year. CJ was in his 2nd year - and McGee will be in his 2nd year come August. It can be done, folks.

There are some differences between the situation at each school, but even then I think that UAB should win 4+ games next year.

McGee will be in his 3rd Year

This coming season should be the do-or-die campaign, then. Six wins or goodbye (at least if I were the AD).

Your BOT/BOR at least has your best interests at heart as well as some big donors, ours doesn't & that's some big things to overcome

I may be persona non grata on this particular topic, but I wanted to weigh in with my perspective. Though I am an ECU alumnus/fan, I also semi-regularly attend UAB football and basketball games (multiple per season). In fact, I was able to experience the Green and Gold room this week prior to the UTC game in addition to the opportunity to chat with Mr. Mackin. For the record, I believe y'all have a fine AD.

The only UAB football game I caught in person this year was in Greenville against my Pirates. That said, I watched several others on the tube.

What I have seen, particularly on defense, is a fine scheme. The problem is with personnel. He just doesn't have the Jimmy's and Joe's to compete right now, even in C-USA. The offense is a little bit better personnel wise, but the talent is still sub-par. That, combined with the inability to develop an offensive character with established and successful tendencies (due to constantly playing catch-up) is a dangerous concoction.

I do believe he can recruit his way out of this situation, but it will require a level of patience many will not want to give him. It has been a long drought at UAB and it will necessarily have to be longer in order to build things the right way towards a trajectory of success. If McGee is let go, it could really reset all progress and further delay that moment in the sun.

Y'all have the right leadership in Mackin, Hasse, and McGee, in my opinion.

I agree with you on Mackin and on Haase. I am not in that group that likes to pin alot of our problems on Mackin. I think he has done a great job all things considered.

In terms of McGee I'm not sure. He seemed like the right hire at the time. But I am concerned by some of his decision making. You're right about talent. It isn't quite there and that isn't just his fault. That's been years in the making. But even specific game decisions and comments he has made lead me to believe he doesn't completely understand the situation he is in. I hope he does prove me wrong and McGee gets things turned around.

(12-20-2013 06:31 PM)Blazer85 Wrote:  I agree with you on Mackin and on Haase. I am not in that group that likes to pin alot of our problems on Mackin. I think he has done a great job all things considered.

In terms of McGee I'm not sure. He seemed like the right hire at the time. But I am concerned by some of his decision making. You're right about talent. It isn't quite there and that isn't just his fault. That's been years in the making. But even specific game decisions and comments he has made lead me to believe he doesn't completely understand the situation he is in. I hope he does prove me wrong and McGee gets things turned around.

McGee is still a little green, but then again this is his first head coaching gig. All first time head coaches make mistakes and say some errant things. I remember when he was hired, he said that UAB had everything it needed at that moment to win C-USA. I remember thinking that was an over-the-top statement that indicated he may not know just how tough the job is going to be. Rookie mistake. He is getting better all around and will continue to, in my opinion.

We haven't won more games than we've lost since 2004. UAB fans are nothing if not patient. McGee will get his 5 years.

(12-20-2013 05:19 PM)blazerwkr Wrote:  

(12-20-2013 02:09 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(12-20-2013 01:56 PM)ICB Wrote:  

(12-20-2013 12:50 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Remember now that Tulane just went 7-5 after a 2-10 campaign last year. CJ was in his 2nd year - and McGee will be in his 2nd year come August. It can be done, folks.

There are some differences between the situation at each school, but even then I think that UAB should win 4+ games next year.

McGee will be in his 3rd Year

This coming season should be the do-or-die campaign, then. Six wins or goodbye (at least if I were the AD).

Your BOT/BOR at least has your best interests at heart as well as some big donors, ours doesn't & that's some big things to overcome

Tulane isn't in dreamland by any stretch of the imagination. There's a reason we're playing CJ over a million a year at the start of next year (there are also raises for all of his assistants as well) - our future hinges on him staying for 6-8 years and building a new tradition.

(12-17-2013 09:48 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(12-16-2013 10:10 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  Your offense wasn't that hot either.

When you're 2-10, it's a pretty safe bet that the list of things you do well is a short one.

Defense has been a glaring failure.

No comments, just commiserating.