(12-15-2013 11:36 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(12-15-2013 06:39 PM)Murray007 Wrote:  

(12-15-2013 05:51 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(12-15-2013 05:49 PM)Murray007 Wrote:  Maybe its different depending on where you lived in Alabama?

As an example, I know Norfolk, Virginia is very different from Lynchburg, Virginia.

I would tend to agree that even in states that generally stink, there are almost always nice areas. I'm familiar with several nice areas in Alabama, but the state is still a hellhole in general. Mississippi is the same way.

To each his own I guess.

Do most southern states make your hellhole list?

They do on mine.

Ever actually set foot in one?

(12-16-2013 09:26 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(12-15-2013 11:36 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(12-15-2013 06:39 PM)Murray007 Wrote:  

(12-15-2013 05:51 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(12-15-2013 05:49 PM)Murray007 Wrote:  Maybe its different depending on where you lived in Alabama?

As an example, I know Norfolk, Virginia is very different from Lynchburg, Virginia.

I would tend to agree that even in states that generally stink, there are almost always nice areas. I'm familiar with several nice areas in Alabama, but the state is still a hellhole in general. Mississippi is the same way.

To each his own I guess.

Do most southern states make your hellhole list?

They do on mine.

Ever actually set foot in one?

I wonder why so many northerners make like a bat out of hell to get to the south once they retire?

(12-16-2013 09:27 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-16-2013 09:26 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(12-15-2013 11:36 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(12-15-2013 06:39 PM)Murray007 Wrote:  

(12-15-2013 05:51 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  I would tend to agree that even in states that generally stink, there are almost always nice areas. I'm familiar with several nice areas in Alabama, but the state is still a hellhole in general. Mississippi is the same way.

To each his own I guess.

Do most southern states make your hellhole list?

They do on mine.

Ever actually set foot in one?

I wonder why so many northerners make like a bat out of hell to get to the south once they retire?

Old people love warmer weather, and the cheap housing is a bonus. I'm all for northern people moving south and Californians moving into other parts of the west. Virginia, North Carolina, and Florida are all swing states, and Georgia is next on that list. Colorado, Nevada, and New Mexico are largely blue states now, and we'll eventually get Arizona and Texas.

(12-16-2013 10:05 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(12-16-2013 09:27 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-16-2013 09:26 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(12-15-2013 11:36 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(12-15-2013 06:39 PM)Murray007 Wrote:  To each his own I guess.

Do most southern states make your hellhole list?

They do on mine.

Ever actually set foot in one?

I wonder why so many northerners make like a bat out of hell to get to the south once they retire?

Old people love warmer weather, and the cheap housing is a bonus. I'm all for northern people moving south and Californians moving into other parts of the west. Virginia, North Carolina, and Florida are all swing states, and Georgia is next on that list. Colorado, Nevada, and New Mexico are largely blue states now, and we'll eventually get Arizona and Texas.

(12-16-2013 10:05 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(12-16-2013 09:27 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-16-2013 09:26 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(12-15-2013 11:36 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(12-15-2013 06:39 PM)Murray007 Wrote:  To each his own I guess.

Do most southern states make your hellhole list?

They do on mine.

Ever actually set foot in one?

I wonder why so many northerners make like a bat out of hell to get to the south once they retire?

Old people love warmer weather, and the cheap housing is a bonus. I'm all for northern people moving south and Californians moving into other parts of the west. Virginia, North Carolina, and Florida are all swing states, and Georgia is next on that list. Colorado, Nevada, and New Mexico are largely blue states now, and we'll eventually get Arizona and Texas.

Let me offer some wisdom...

All of the income inequality talk is bogus. There is only so much wealth to be had, and there are too many hands in the pot. Use a simple deli in a gas station scenario - Lease, leaser, employees, food company, government, utilities, etc.

There will be a population adjustment soon. Obamacare is nothing but a way to make that less violent. I would recommend northerners stay put...