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RE: The answer to our student section problem: paging Bowen...
The Memphis Tiger crowd is overall boring. Nothing but middle age people in the lower seats who clap and applaud every made basket. If I didn't actually see the basketball game going on, I would confuse the crowd for a symphony. No offense to those fans because they do great things for the university. Now back to the original post, moving those seats to the sideline wouldn't make much of a difference because our arena is off campus. Build an on campus arena and watch that student section fill up and go wild. Actually the university needs an on campus arena, an on campus stadium, and more dorms. With Memphis being a commuter school, the overall school spirit sucks compared to other schools with all that I listed. My final conclusion is that moving the student section wouldn't make a difference.
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(12-15-2013 04:58 PM)Crazier Wrote:  The Memphis Tiger crowd is overall boring. Nothing but middle age people in the lower seats who clap and applaud every made basket. If I didn't actually see the basketball game going on, I would confuse the crowd for a symphony. No offense to those fans because they do great things for the university. Now back to the original post, moving those seats to the sideline wouldn't make much of a difference because our arena is off campus. Build an on campus arena and watch that student section fill up and go wild. Actually the university needs an on campus arena, an on campus stadium, and more dorms. With Memphis being a commuter school, the overall school spirit sucks compared to other schools with all that I listed. My final conclusion is that moving the student section wouldn't make a difference.

I disagree that on campus would make a difference. As nice as it would be to have the arena on campus I just doubt it would make a impact as the vast majority of the students commute anyhow.


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(12-15-2013 04:58 PM)Crazier Wrote:  The Memphis Tiger crowd is overall boring. Nothing but middle age people in the lower seats who clap and applaud every made basket. If I didn't actually see the basketball game going on, I would confuse the crowd for a symphony. No offense to those fans because they do great things for the university. Now back to the original post, moving those seats to the sideline wouldn't make much of a difference because our arena is off campus. Build an on campus arena and watch that student section fill up and go wild. Actually the university needs an on campus arena, an on campus stadium, and more dorms. With Memphis being a commuter school, the overall school spirit sucks compared to other schools with all that I listed. My final conclusion is that moving the student section wouldn't make a difference.

When I skimmed your post I thought you were describing our student section. Silly me!
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(12-15-2013 05:35 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  
(12-15-2013 04:58 PM)Crazier Wrote:  The Memphis Tiger crowd is overall boring. Nothing but middle age people in the lower seats who clap and applaud every made basket. If I didn't actually see the basketball game going on, I would confuse the crowd for a symphony. No offense to those fans because they do great things for the university. Now back to the original post, moving those seats to the sideline wouldn't make much of a difference because our arena is off campus. Build an on campus arena and watch that student section fill up and go wild. Actually the university needs an on campus arena, an on campus stadium, and more dorms. With Memphis being a commuter school, the overall school spirit sucks compared to other schools with all that I listed. My final conclusion is that moving the student section wouldn't make a difference.

I disagree that on campus would make a difference. As nice as it would be to have the arena on campus I just doubt it would make a impact as the vast majority of the students commute anyhow.


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(12-15-2013 04:19 PM)Tiger5 Wrote:  I was a student in the mid-90's and I remember the student section always being well attended at the pyramid.

The seats in the endzone are good enough for the students.

Yah Bob Huggins thought the students at the Pyramid were obnoxious.
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Student attendance has dwindled over the years. Giving them the prime seats that paying customers have now is not the answer. If the students don't fill the section they have now, giving them better seats is not the answer, but it would cost the school plenty of money in ticket sales. It is disappointing to see the student section half full on game day and know there are fans wanting tickets that have to buy them on the street because the ticket office has listed the game as "sold out"
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Pretty awesome. Fans can impact games through intimidating the opposing players. Hell smu has a better student section than we do. They put them right behind the benches on the baseline & I've watched them intimidate our players for a decade now. Just ask the St. Louis cardinals if they were intimidated by the sox fans.

I like your attempt to shake things up, but holding SMU up as an example really hurts your credibility. They averaged 2,000 per game last year.

Our students have great seats already. We have the same seats on the other side of the arena and pay $1,000 per seat just for the right to then pay $750 for the season tickets. The students still fail to fill up their section and, other than the first two or three rows, rarely make any more noise than the "blue hairs".

I agree that, other than the big games, our crowd's noise and intensity level can leave something to be desired. I'm sorry, but I just don't see rewarding a largely lethargic, lazy student section with even better seats than they already have is an answer. The whole arena, including me, needs to step it up a few notches.
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Lots of things lead to this poor attendance:

1) Cost of parking
2) Cost of concessions/beer
3) Availability of HD TV for the watching at home or bar
4) Lack of quality home games
5) Metro area with considerable other entertainment options for same relative cost

You can claim that its not right or its some sort of travesty but the money grab along with advancement in technology makes it hard to convince people to watch a game in the arena versus TV or bar these days.
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(12-15-2013 06:15 PM)papajohn Wrote:  
(12-14-2013 03:21 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
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Pretty awesome. Fans can impact games through intimidating the opposing players. Hell smu has a better student section than we do. They put them right behind the benches on the baseline & I've watched them intimidate our players for a decade now. Just ask the St. Louis cardinals if they were intimidated by the sox fans.

I like your attempt to shake things up, but holding SMU up as an example really hurts your credibility. They averaged 2,000 per game last year.

Our students have great seats already. We have the same seats on the other side of the arena and pay $1,000 per seat just for the right to then pay $750 for the season tickets. The students still fail to fill up their section and, other than the first two or three rows, rarely make any more noise than the "blue hairs".

I agree that, other than the big games, our crowd's noise and intensity level can leave something to be desired. I'm sorry, but I just don't see rewarding a largely lethargic, lazy student section with even better seats than they already have is an answer. The whole arena, including me, needs to step it up a few notches.

Don't wrest words man. I was simply using smu as an example of students intimidating our tigers because I've seen it every season. Any moron knows that smu overall sucks at everything, however, for 1 game a season they get it together to impact 1 game. Now, what if we did that every game? That's my point. Don't build a stick man and tear it down.
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(12-15-2013 07:05 PM)homefry20 Wrote:  Lots of things lead to this poor attendance:

1) Cost of parking
2) Cost of concessions/beer
3) Availability of HD TV for the watching at home or bar
4) Lack of quality home games
5) Metro area with considerable other entertainment options for same relative cost

You can claim that its not right or its some sort of travesty but the money grab along with advancement in technology makes it hard to convince people to watch a game in the arena versus TV or bar these days.

Everything you said is right. Been waiting for someone to make all these points for discussion sake. All the points you make point to why we need to at least try to shake things up & make it more exciting for students. It works in places that they've tried it. We should try it.
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Don't give it up my man. Keep your enthusiasm for what I agree is a worthy cause---however uphill it may be.

Betcha Bowen and Josh would make a great pair of allies for seeking some type of workable win-win plan.

The more exciting the atmosphere can become, the more folks will pay for tickets just to be sure and be seen at such social happenings. And not just for the UT or Louisville games.
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(12-15-2013 08:03 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(12-15-2013 07:05 PM)homefry20 Wrote:  Lots of things lead to this poor attendance:

1) Cost of parking
2) Cost of concessions/beer
3) Availability of HD TV for the watching at home or bar
4) Lack of quality home games
5) Metro area with considerable other entertainment options for same relative cost

You can claim that its not right or its some sort of travesty but the money grab along with advancement in technology makes it hard to convince people to watch a game in the arena versus TV or bar these days.

Everything you said is right. Been waiting for someone to make all these points for discussion sake. All the points you make point to why we need to at least try to shake things up & make it more exciting for students. It works in places that they've tried it. We should try it.

They are college kids that get free tickets in great seats to watch a ranked basketball team in a basketball city at a state of an art arena, which is located 15 minutes from their school and next to plenty of bars and entertainment. They shouldn't need another damn thing to make it more exciting for them. Our fans would gladly pay a couple thousand bucks to sit in those seats. Don't know how people can even talk about rewarding our students with free tickets to the best seats in the house, when they can't even fill up the student section 80% on a regular basis.
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(12-15-2013 08:00 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(12-15-2013 06:15 PM)papajohn Wrote:  
(12-14-2013 03:21 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(12-14-2013 01:30 PM)hollywoodtigerhound Wrote:  


Pretty awesome. Fans can impact games through intimidating the opposing players. Hell smu has a better student section than we do. They put them right behind the benches on the baseline & I've watched them intimidate our players for a decade now. Just ask the St. Louis cardinals if they were intimidated by the sox fans.

I like your attempt to shake things up, but holding SMU up as an example really hurts your credibility. They averaged 2,000 per game last year.

Our students have great seats already. We have the same seats on the other side of the arena and pay $1,000 per seat just for the right to then pay $750 for the season tickets. The students still fail to fill up their section and, other than the first two or three rows, rarely make any more noise than the "blue hairs".

I agree that, other than the big games, our crowd's noise and intensity level can leave something to be desired. I'm sorry, but I just don't see rewarding a largely lethargic, lazy student section with even better seats than they already have is an answer. The whole arena, including me, needs to step it up a few notches.

Don't wrest words man. I was simply using smu as an example of students intimidating our tigers because I've seen it every season. Any moron knows that smu overall sucks at everything, however, for 1 game a season they get it together to impact 1 game. Now, what if we did that every game? That's my point. Don't build a stick man and tear it down. Moron.

You keep chipping away at your own credibility. Can't you defend your posts without calling fellow Tiger fans names?
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(12-15-2013 09:00 PM)TigerFan386 Wrote:  
(12-15-2013 08:03 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(12-15-2013 07:05 PM)homefry20 Wrote:  Lots of things lead to this poor attendance:

1) Cost of parking
2) Cost of concessions/beer
3) Availability of HD TV for the watching at home or bar
4) Lack of quality home games
5) Metro area with considerable other entertainment options for same relative cost

You can claim that its not right or its some sort of travesty but the money grab along with advancement in technology makes it hard to convince people to watch a game in the arena versus TV or bar these days.

Everything you said is right. Been waiting for someone to make all these points for discussion sake. All the points you make point to why we need to at least try to shake things up & make it more exciting for students. It works in places that they've tried it. We should try it.

They are college kids that get free tickets in great seats to watch a ranked basketball team in a basketball city at a state of an art arena, which is located 15 minutes from their school and next to plenty of bars and entertainment. They shouldn't need another damn thing to make it more exciting for them. Our fans would gladly pay a couple thousand bucks to sit in those seats. Don't know how people can even talk about rewarding our students with free tickets to the best seats in the house, when they can't even fill up the student section 80% on a regular basis.

Great points, but I'm not just looking for making it exciting, but intimidating for opposing teams.
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Where to start? Have the university announce if the students can't enthusiastically and consistently fill the student section then the tickets will be taken away and sold to the as described in an earlier post boring middle aged fans. See how they like that. If they can't come the game in force and support their hard working classmates then the heck with them.

Maybe if we placed a large pizza, a six pack of beer and a $20 bill on each student seat they would make time to attend. 03-banghead

Next up, again it is posted the problem is we need an on campus stadium and arena. Well if anyone out there has an extra $500 to $750 million to donate I am sure the university would be glad to make it happen.

Also posted is where Duke and Florida have their student sections. Duke and Florida have on campus facilities. They are also paid for and don't have to pay for a FEF or Liberty Bowl like Memphis does. Duke has a $6 billion endowment, and poor little Florida has only $1.263 billion endowment. Memphis has $183.4 million. Duke gets ACC money, and Florida gets SEC money which is waaay more lucrative than the money we presently get from the AAC. Either is way way way more than we used to get from the C-USA to subsidize our sports programs.
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We could also have the student section starting the cheers , then put the words on the jumbo tron ( if that's what it's called ) so that everyone could join in . I know I would do the chants if I knew what they were saying .03-idea
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(12-15-2013 10:59 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(12-15-2013 09:00 PM)TigerFan386 Wrote:  
(12-15-2013 08:03 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(12-15-2013 07:05 PM)homefry20 Wrote:  Lots of things lead to this poor attendance:

1) Cost of parking
2) Cost of concessions/beer
3) Availability of HD TV for the watching at home or bar
4) Lack of quality home games
5) Metro area with considerable other entertainment options for same relative cost

You can claim that its not right or its some sort of travesty but the money grab along with advancement in technology makes it hard to convince people to watch a game in the arena versus TV or bar these days.

Everything you said is right. Been waiting for someone to make all these points for discussion sake. All the points you make point to why we need to at least try to shake things up & make it more exciting for students. It works in places that they've tried it. We should try it.

They are college kids that get free tickets in great seats to watch a ranked basketball team in a basketball city at a state of an art arena, which is located 15 minutes from their school and next to plenty of bars and entertainment. They shouldn't need another damn thing to make it more exciting for them. Our fans would gladly pay a couple thousand bucks to sit in those seats. Don't know how people can even talk about rewarding our students with free tickets to the best seats in the house, when they can't even fill up the student section 80% on a regular basis.

Great points, but I'm not just looking for making it exciting, but intimidating for opposing teams.

The students haven't earned those seats, they can't fill the seats they have. Complain about the blue hairs if you want, but they at least support the university and show up.
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Sum a u people. Geez. A month from now I could post the exact opposite to my op & you'd disagree with that to. Y'all kill me.
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(12-14-2013 01:31 PM)mairving Wrote:  
(12-14-2013 01:21 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Turn on CBS right now. We've got to place a portion of our student tickets right down on the baseline. All of the top programs do this. Have a student body leader go to the top university student sections and learn how they organize their in unison chants and songs. I'm not saying put all the students that low, but maybe 5 rows going down the baseline. That way its limited to a group of 500 students or so and then you'll find the students in that section being crazy and rowdy. This has to happen.

You want to take tickets away from the big boosters and give them free to students who traditionally don't show up. I would start by trying to fill up the student section first.

Maybe they show up for some of those seats. It is college basketball and the students should get some perks. Loved it when they dominated the end zones at MSC.
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(12-16-2013 09:31 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  
(12-14-2013 01:31 PM)mairving Wrote:  
(12-14-2013 01:21 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Turn on CBS right now. We've got to place a portion of our student tickets right down on the baseline. All of the top programs do this. Have a student body leader go to the top university student sections and learn how they organize their in unison chants and songs. I'm not saying put all the students that low, but maybe 5 rows going down the baseline. That way its limited to a group of 500 students or so and then you'll find the students in that section being crazy and rowdy. This has to happen.

You want to take tickets away from the big boosters and give them free to students who traditionally don't show up. I would start by trying to fill up the student section first.

Maybe they show up for some of those seats. It is college basketball and the students should get some perks. Loved it when they dominated the end zones at MSC.

Perks like free tickets to the games that they already have.

Maybe giving them free tickets, free parking and a free meal will work for some of the less attended games. That wouldn't cost a whole lot and may help get some students in the seats. They have to make it an event.
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