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What team deserves to face Florida State…
…exclusively using the 2011 “best loss” standard?

Auburn, Alabama, Michigan State, Baylor, Ohio State.
Just to be fair…UCF, Louisville, Fresno State, Northern Illinois.
12-09-2013 11:29 AM
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RE: What team deserves to face Florida State…
(12-09-2013 11:29 AM)AngryAphid Wrote:  …exclusively using the 2011 “best loss” standard?

Auburn, Alabama, Michigan State, Baylor, Ohio State.
Just to be fair…UCF, Louisville, Fresno State, Northern Illinois.

Bethune-Cookman. They lost to #1 Florida State
12-09-2013 12:06 PM
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RE: What team deserves to face Florida State…
It's really a "who's the best at the end" kind of game these days, anyway. FSU deserves it. It's a shame they have to play anyone to prove it, but I can stomach Auburn getting the bid. Surviving 'Bama, Aggie, and Missouri's enough. Who knew Washington State, Arkansas State, and FAU would all become bowl-eligible (even if they all don't bowl), but that only adds to the resume.
12-09-2013 12:48 PM
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RE: What team deserves to face Florida State…
Best loss only applies to the SEC. For everyone else, the teams you beat come into question even if said team has fewer losses or better wins.
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12-09-2013 07:42 PM
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RE: What team deserves to face Florida State…
(12-09-2013 12:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(12-09-2013 11:29 AM)AngryAphid Wrote:  …exclusively using the 2011 “best loss” standard?

Auburn, Alabama, Michigan State, Baylor, Ohio State.
Just to be fair…UCF, Louisville, Fresno State, Northern Illinois.

Bethune-Cookman. They lost to #1 Florida State
and a 3 win Norfolk State

and got shelled by Coastal Carolina
12-09-2013 08:13 PM
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RE: What team deserves to face Florida State…
(12-09-2013 07:42 PM)Jughead Wrote:  Best loss only applies to the SEC. For everyone else, the teams you beat come into question even if said team has fewer losses or better wins.

Guys, You can't really argue that Alabama is more deserving than Auburn....there was a head to head there. And Auburn's schedule was much stronger than even Alabama's (Auburn had a very difficult SEC slate as well). Auburn's resume. 5 wins over teams ranked in the top 25. 2 wins over teams ranked in the top 10. 11 of 13 opponents this year are bowl eligible. 10 wins versus FBS bowl eligible teams. Out of conference schedule Washington State, Ark State, Florida Atlantic, and West Carolina (not great, but no one else has any OOC wins either that really pop).

Michigan State? Beat 1 ranked team. One. Ranked. Team. And lost to Notre Dame, which has more losses than LSU. 6 wins against bowl ineligible teams. Out of conference schedule.. Western Michigan, South Florida, Youngstown State, and Notre Dame (loss).

Ohio State? Beat 1 ranked team. One. Ranked. Team. Did not win their conference. 5 wins versus bowl ineligible teams.

Baylor? Beat 1 ranked team. One. Ranked Team. Out of conference schedule... Wofford, ULL, and Buffalo, all at home. 5 wins versus bowl ineligible teams.

I know you guys want to whine about Auburn being in the NCG, but really can't make a credible case for any of the AQ 1 loss teams over Auburn. It doesn't work.

If you hate the SEC, please root for FSU, but you really can't credibly argue that Auburn doesn't deserve to be in the game. You may not like how Auburn got there, but wins and losses have to matter.

Auburn would NOT be in this game had Ohio State not lost to Michigan State. But Ohio State blew it so we went to 1 loss teams to pick FSU's opponent. And Auburn's resume was better than anyone else's in any objective analysis. You want to talk about a controversy, try 2004, when an undefeated SEC champion (Auburn) was left at home because of a .0001 differential in the BCS standings (Oklahoma went over Auburn and got smoked in the game). So its not like Auburn hasn't taken their lumps in this process too.

And if you hate the BCS, just wait till next year. If there was a playoff this year, FSU, Auburn, Alabama and Michigan State would be in the playoff. The Big XII and the Pac 12 would be out. And some of you guys would be screaming bloody murder about Baylor or Stanford being left out.

The good news for SEC haters....FSU is an 8 point favorite.
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12-09-2013 08:40 PM
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RE: What team deserves to face Florida State…
Safe to say that Lazybrook is a member of the SECt.
12-10-2013 07:56 AM
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RE: What team deserves to face Florida State…
(12-09-2013 08:40 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  And if you hate the BCS, just wait till next year. If there was a playoff this year, FSU, Auburn, Alabama and Michigan State would be in the playoff. The Big XII and the Pac 12 would be out. And some of you guys would be screaming bloody murder about Baylor or Stanford being left out.

I think the committee would bump Alabama, which would satisfy me...you should have won something to get a shot at winning the whole darn thing, and not just being "the team we thought was going to win." I doubt the committee would open that can on its first year unless the drop-off between conference champions was more significant, like last year with Wisconsin and to a much lesser extent, FSU.

Honestly, I'm fine with how the national title game turned out. Auburn got it done, and thankfully, FSU didn't have a brain-fart along the way and botch a game they needed to win.
12-10-2013 09:24 AM
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