(12-08-2013 12:31 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 12:26 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 12:25 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 12:22 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Orange can't pick Alabama unless Sugar releases them.

Did they discuss that tonight? I don't think that is correct. The bowl that loses the #1 team gets first pick. I remember a few years back the Orange ticking off the Rose by taking USC and Iowa.

and ever since then the implemented a rule that prevents a host bowl from losing their conference tie in unless they agree to it.

If that's correct it gives Oregon some chance to get the Sugar slot instead of Oklahoma. Still probably goes to Oklahoma.

Dude, its correct: the Orange can't take Alabama, Bama will be in the Sugar.

Oregon might get into the Sugar too if Oklahoma doesn't rise into the top 14. They likely will, but it's not a sure thing (Arizona State might not fall past them, maybe 10% chance).

(12-08-2013 12:40 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 12:31 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 12:26 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 12:25 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 12:22 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Orange can't pick Alabama unless Sugar releases them.

Did they discuss that tonight? I don't think that is correct. The bowl that loses the #1 team gets first pick. I remember a few years back the Orange ticking off the Rose by taking USC and Iowa.

and ever since then the implemented a rule that prevents a host bowl from losing their conference tie in unless they agree to it.

If that's correct it gives Oregon some chance to get the Sugar slot instead of Oklahoma. Still probably goes to Oklahoma.

Dude, its correct: the Orange can't take Alabama, Bama will be in the Sugar.

Oregon might get into the Sugar too if Oklahoma doesn't rise into the top 14. They likely will, but it's not a sure thing (Arizona State might not fall past them, maybe 10% chance).

Oklahoma will pass NIU and UCF for sure. That gets them up to 15. Think with the win, they will get enough poll help to get at least ahead of LSU or Arizona St or Oklahoma St. 99.9% chance Oklahoma is in the top 14.

(12-08-2013 12:42 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 12:40 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 12:31 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 12:26 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 12:25 AM)bullet Wrote:  Did they discuss that tonight? I don't think that is correct. The bowl that loses the #1 team gets first pick. I remember a few years back the Orange ticking off the Rose by taking USC and Iowa.

and ever since then the implemented a rule that prevents a host bowl from losing their conference tie in unless they agree to it.

If that's correct it gives Oregon some chance to get the Sugar slot instead of Oklahoma. Still probably goes to Oklahoma.

Dude, its correct: the Orange can't take Alabama, Bama will be in the Sugar.

Oregon might get into the Sugar too if Oklahoma doesn't rise into the top 14. They likely will, but it's not a sure thing (Arizona State might not fall past them, maybe 10% chance).

Oklahoma will pass NIU and UCF for sure. That gets them up to 15. Think with the win, they will get enough poll help to get at least ahead of LSU or Arizona St or Oklahoma St. 99.9% chance Oklahoma is in the top 14.

I'd say 95% chance OK rises into top 14 not 99.9% but we basically see this the same way.

(12-08-2013 12:20 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  BCS Bowl Predictions:
Fiesta: Baylor vs UCF
Rose: Stanford vs Michigan State
Orange: Clemson vs Ohio State
Sugar: Alabama vs Oregon
National Champ: FSU vs Auburn

CP you were very very close to the projections that ESPN just released. You have everything exactly right except the Sugar Bowl. ESPN has it as Alabama vs Oklahoma. Oregon was out.

(12-08-2013 12:54 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 12:20 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  BCS Bowl Predictions:
Fiesta: Baylor vs UCF
Rose: Stanford vs Michigan State
Orange: Clemson vs Ohio State
Sugar: Alabama vs Oregon
National Champ: FSU vs Auburn

CP you were very very close to the projections that ESPN just released. You have everything exactly right except the Sugar Bowl. ESPN has it as Alabama vs Oklahoma. Oregon was out.

I think they had to be after OU won in Stillwater today... OU and Bama might be the best BCS game of all...

(12-08-2013 12:56 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 12:54 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 12:20 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  BCS Bowl Predictions:
Fiesta: Baylor vs UCF
Rose: Stanford vs Michigan State
Orange: Clemson vs Ohio State
Sugar: Alabama vs Oregon
National Champ: FSU vs Auburn

CP you were very very close to the projections that ESPN just released. You have everything exactly right except the Sugar Bowl. ESPN has it as Alabama vs Oklahoma. Oregon was out.

I think they had to be after OU won in Stillwater today... OU and Bama might be the best BCS game of all...

They all look pretty good to me. Baylor might have been a more interesting mach for Alabama and Oklahoma for Central Florida. I think Baylor's spread would have challenged Bama more. Oklahoma's style plays into Alabama's strengths. But Okahoma and Central Florida are very similar. But they will all, I think, be good games.

(12-08-2013 12:59 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 12:56 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 12:54 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 12:20 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  BCS Bowl Predictions:
Fiesta: Baylor vs UCF
Rose: Stanford vs Michigan State
Orange: Clemson vs Ohio State
Sugar: Alabama vs Oregon
National Champ: FSU vs Auburn

CP you were very very close to the projections that ESPN just released. You have everything exactly right except the Sugar Bowl. ESPN has it as Alabama vs Oklahoma. Oregon was out.

I think they had to be after OU won in Stillwater today... OU and Bama might be the best BCS game of all...

They all look pretty good to me. Baylor might have been a more interesting mach for Alabama and Oklahoma for Central Florida. I think Baylor's spread would have challenged Bama more. Oklahoma's style plays into Alabama's strengths. But Okahoma and Central Florida are very similar. But they will all, I think, be good games.

OK Jr... who do we pick for the new SEC schools from the Big XII? I would love to see the Sooners and the Cowboys both in the SEC, along with WVU and one other.

I'll play.

Title- Florida St vs Auburn

Orange- UCF vs. Clemson - UCF has to play somewhere this season.
Sugar- Alabama vs Oklahoma -Best possible matchup
Fiesta- Baylor vs Oregon -Most exciting possible matchup
Rose- Michigan St vs Stanford

The Orange is the ACC primary BCS bowl. It would make things uncomfortable not to select a deserving 10-2 Clemson team.

(12-08-2013 01:16 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  I'll play.

Title- Florida St vs Auburn

Orange- UCF vs. Clemson - UCF has to play somewhere this season.
Sugar- Alabama vs Oklahoma -Best possible matchup
Fiesta- Baylor vs Oregon -Most exciting possible matchup
Rose- Michigan St vs Stanford

The Orange is the ACC primary BCS bowl. It would make things uncomfortable not to select a deserving 10-2 Clemson team.

So let me get this straight. You think it would be too uncomfortable for the Orange Bowl not to take Clemson, but not strange to drop Ohio State from the BCS bowls altogether?

(12-08-2013 01:32 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 01:16 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  I'll play.

Title- Florida St vs Auburn

Orange- UCF vs. Clemson - UCF has to play somewhere this season.
Sugar- Alabama vs Oklahoma -Best possible matchup
Fiesta- Baylor vs Oregon -Most exciting possible matchup
Rose- Michigan St vs Stanford

The Orange is the ACC primary BCS bowl. It would make things uncomfortable not to select a deserving 10-2 Clemson team.

So let me get this straight. You think it would be too uncomfortable for the Orange Bowl not to take Clemson, but not strange to drop Ohio State from the BCS bowls altogether?

I think these are better matchups. Ohio State lost tonight. A BCS team shouldn't lose their last game of the regular season. Personally, I think Clemson vs. Ohio State would be a better Orange Bowl, but UCF has to be included.

(12-08-2013 12:54 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 12:20 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  BCS Bowl Predictions:
Fiesta: Baylor vs UCF
Rose: Stanford vs Michigan State
Orange: Clemson vs Ohio State
Sugar: Alabama vs Oregon
National Champ: FSU vs Auburn

CP you were very very close to the projections that ESPN just released. You have everything exactly right except the Sugar Bowl. ESPN has it as Alabama vs Oklahoma. Oregon was out.

And to be honest, I was very close to picking Oklahoma. OU/Oregon was my final pick.

(12-08-2013 12:26 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 12:25 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 12:22 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Orange can't pick Alabama unless Sugar releases them.

Did they discuss that tonight? I don't think that is correct. The bowl that loses the #1 team gets first pick. I remember a few years back the Orange ticking off the Rose by taking USC and Iowa.

and ever since then the implemented a rule that prevents a host bowl from losing their conference tie in unless they agree to it.

Correct. From bcsfootball.org:

Quote:3. If a bowl loses a host team to the NCG, then such bowl shall select a replacement team from among the automatic-qualifying teams and the at-large teams before any other selections are made. If two bowls lose host teams to the NCG, each bowl will get a replacement pick before any other selections are made. In such case, the bowl losing the No. 1 team gets the first replacement pick, and the bowl losing the No. 2 team gets the second replacement pick. If the Rose Bowl loses both the Big Ten and Pac-12 champions to the NCG, it will receive two replacement picks.

A bowl choosing a replacement team may not select:

A. A team in the NCG, or

B. The host team for another BCS Bowl;

Further, when two bowls lose host teams, the bowl losing the No. 1 team may not select a replacement team from the same conference as the No. 2 team, unless the bowl losing the No. 2 team consents.

What I think would sell the most tickets all the way around (but won't happen due to elitism):

NCG - FSU/Auburn
Rose - Stanford/ Michigan State
Orange - UCF/Clemson
Sugar - Alabama/Ohio State
Fiesta - Baylor/Oregon

What I think will happen:

NCG - FSU/Auburn
Rose - Stanford/ Michigan State
Orange - Ohio State/Clemson
Sugar - Alabama/Oklahoma
Fiesta - Baylor/UCF (might be lowest-attended Fiesta ever).

(12-08-2013 01:53 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  What I think would sell the most tickets all the way around (but won't happen due to elitism):

NCG - FSU/Auburn
Rose - Stanford/ Michigan State
Orange - UCF/Clemson
Sugar - Alabama/Ohio State
Fiesta - Baylor/Oregon

What I think will happen:

NCG - FSU/Auburn
Rose - Stanford/ Michigan State
Orange - Ohio State/Clemson
Sugar - Alabama/Oklahoma
Fiesta - Baylor/UCF (might be lowest-attended Fiesta ever).

Commuter Bob your matchups interest me more and would be overall better games than what we will receive...outside of the Rose Bowl the others look like to me as all blowouts...

BCS - #1 Florida State vs #2 Auburn
Orange - #7 Ohio State - #10 Clemson
Sugar - #3 Alabama vs #14 Central Florida
Fiesta - #4 Baylor - #9 Oregon
Rose - #5 Stanford vs #6 Michigan State

Left out: #8 Missouri, #11 South Carolina, #12 Oklahoma State, #13 Oklahoma

Michigan State costs the B1G a shot at the national title, but also costs the XII a second berth in the BCS.

(12-08-2013 12:25 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 12:22 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Orange can't pick Alabama unless Sugar releases them.

Did they discuss that tonight? I don't think that is correct. The bowl that loses the #1 team gets first pick. I remember a few years back the Orange ticking off the Rose by taking USC and Iowa.

Yep...Stever is correct. Talking heads get a lot of stuff wrong

(12-08-2013 09:31 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  BCS - #1 Florida State vs #2 Auburn
Orange - #7 Ohio State - #10 Clemson
Sugar - #3 Alabama vs #14 Central Florida
Fiesta - #4 Baylor - #9 Oregon
Rose - #5 Stanford vs #6 Michigan State

Left out: #8 Missouri, #11 South Carolina, #12 Oklahoma State, #13 Oklahoma

Michigan State costs the B1G a shot at the national title, but also costs the XII a second berth in the BCS.

Wanna bet?

(12-08-2013 01:21 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 12:25 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 12:22 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Orange can't pick Alabama unless Sugar releases them.

Did they discuss that tonight? I don't think that is correct. The bowl that loses the #1 team gets first pick. I remember a few years back the Orange ticking off the Rose by taking USC and Iowa.

Yep...Stever is correct. Talking heads get a lot of stuff wrong

I remembered the controversy and discussion. Didn't remember that they finally changed it. So Alabama is set in the Sugar. Orange effectively gets the 1st two picks.

(12-08-2013 01:40 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 01:32 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 01:16 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  I'll play.

Title- Florida St vs Auburn

Orange- UCF vs. Clemson - UCF has to play somewhere this season.
Sugar- Alabama vs Oklahoma -Best possible matchup
Fiesta- Baylor vs Oregon -Most exciting possible matchup
Rose- Michigan St vs Stanford

The Orange is the ACC primary BCS bowl. It would make things uncomfortable not to select a deserving 10-2 Clemson team.

So let me get this straight. You think it would be too uncomfortable for the Orange Bowl not to take Clemson, but not strange to drop Ohio State from the BCS bowls altogether?

I think these are better matchups. Ohio State lost tonight. A BCS team shouldn't lose their last game of the regular season. Personally, I think Clemson vs. Ohio State would be a better Orange Bowl, but UCF has to be included.

You do realize that these games are more about the money than match-ups??? Any BCS bowl will take Ohio State, no matter what they did last night.

(12-08-2013 01:53 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  What I think would sell the most tickets all the way around (but won't happen due to elitism):

NCG - FSU/Auburn
Rose - Stanford/ Michigan State
Orange - UCF/Clemson
Sugar - Alabama/Ohio State
Fiesta - Baylor/Oregon

What I think will happen:

NCG - FSU/Auburn
Rose - Stanford/ Michigan State
Orange - Ohio State/Clemson
Sugar - Alabama/Oklahoma
Fiesta - Baylor/UCF (might be lowest-attended Fiesta ever).

I like your preferred scenario, I think UCF can take Clemson all day long.

(12-08-2013 09:31 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  Sugar - #3 Alabama vs #14 Central Florida its UCF we dont go by Central Florida