MichaelSavage Wrote:The 2001 Miami Hurricanes would have obliterated whoever they played in a bowl that year. It just happened to be Nebraska. They've been in BCS bowls twice since Osborne retired, and Solich still managed 9 wins per year. Besides, if a Big East team accomplished what Nebraska did just last year (8 wins and a bowl victory over Michigan) we'd be celebrating how great they are.

The only team that we give many props to is WV. But of course they accomplished alot more than Nebraska did last year, so you certainly cant compare the 2.

One of the problems of a BE comparison to the other BCS conferences is the number of teams. Perception is created by the number of teams who play at the top level, not the percentage. Therefore, if 3 BE teams are top 25 (37.5%) while 4 B12 teams are ranked (33%), the B12 will be perceived as better even though their percentage is less.

Consequently, the only way the BE will achieve an equal perception is to have an equal number of teams. I'm not sold on the 12-team conference for the BE at this point in time, but I do feel that a 10-team all-sports conference would do wonders for our prestige.

Jim

Quote:Give an example, please.

Sure...how about Rutgers in 2005? Conventional message board wisdom seems to be that Rutgers is on the upswing and are turning the corner. Their 2005 season is considered to be a success.

MichaelSavage Wrote:

Quote:Give an example, please.

Sure...how about Rutgers in 2005? Conventional message board wisdom seems to be that Rutgers is on the upswing and are turning the corner. Their 2005 season is considered to be a success.

Rutgers made a bowl game for the first time in a quarter of a century. I think the folks in New Jersey consider that a huge success. And the fact that Schiano is getting the better recruits in Jersey to stay at home is even more impressive. I think you may have to eat your words about Rutgers. Watch what the future holds.

they got all 12 of the good high school football players in new jersey.

TopCoog Wrote:they got all 12 of the good high school football players in new jersey.

I noticed that. I think the rest of the country will start to notice in the very near future. There's a lot of good talent in New Jersey.

MichaelSavage Wrote:

Quote:Give an example, please.

Sure...how about Rutgers in 2005? Conventional message board wisdom seems to be that Rutgers is on the upswing and are turning the corner. Their 2005 season is considered to be a success.

That would not be a good example. Rutgers did not finish 8-4 and did not win a bowl game. Nor does anyone think that Rutgers is a great team. But they do have the potential to become a great team. As has been stated, they went to a bowl game for the first time in decades and only the second time in its history. That is not a great accomplishment, and no one is saying that it is. But we are happy to see that Rutgers seems to be turning the corner and getting some very good recruits.

MichaelSavage Wrote:

Quote:Give an example, please.

Sure...how about Rutgers in 2005? Conventional message board wisdom seems to be that Rutgers is on the upswing and are turning the corner. Their 2005 season is considered to be a success.

That's a stupid example.

How about Louisville? Were they a success last year at 9-3? One game better than Nebraska. I just think it's funny when people downplay Nebraska's 8-4 record and ignore Callahan's recruiting (superior to Rutgers' for sure), and try to talk up RU.

MichaelSavage Wrote:How about Louisville? Were they a success last year at 9-3? One game better than Nebraska. I just think it's funny when people downplay Nebraska's 8-4 record and ignore Callahan's recruiting (superior to Rutgers' for sure), and try to talk up RU.

No offense my friend, but I think you should just give up on your point. You are really reaching here. You cant come up with any legitimate reason to validate your point. You ask any louisville fan, and they will tell you that last season was a disappointment. They had much bigger goals last year than going 9-3. The media was disappointed, the fans were disappointed, and other BE fans were disappointed. It was still a good season, dont get me wrong, but nobody was going crazy over their season, especially when the season before when they won 11 games.. And only being 1 game better than Nebraska is still one game better than Nebraska. Didnt Florida State win the acc, and they also won 8 games just like Nebraska. I wonder how their fans feel about their season.

It's all based on whatever expectations you have. Nebraska has a new coaching staff and is installing a new system that requires different types of players than they recruited in the past. In the second year of said system, to go 8-4 with a bowl win is a success. If Syracuse or Pitt were to duplicate that feat this season who wouldn't consider it a success? We'd see a bunch of posts about how improved they are.