Tarp will be put out over seats for the Duke/Florida State matchup in the ACC Conference Championship game. Evidently neither school will bring many fans. Florida State won't bring many fans because Seminole fans assume Duke is weak match.

Arizona State will host Stanford and Stanford fans will have to drive 700 miles to get to Tempe.

PAC 12 CHAMPIONSHIP TICKETS CHEAPEST IN GAME'S SHORT HISTORY
By Jess Lawrence, Forbes
"PAC-12 Championship ticket prices are currently 49% below the Big Ten Championship game tickets and 70% below SEC Championship tickets....Attendance for the 2012 PAC-12 Championship game was only 31,622 in Stanford Stadium, which holds a capacity of 50,000."

On Stub Hub, Cheapest PAC ticket is $32. Cheapest Big Ten ticket is $118 and they're being bought up.

Last year Big Ten tickets were going for $12 at this point, but this year they allowed fans to put a hold on tickets for purchase only if their team made it to the game. Far fewer tickets floating around with far more demand this year. Dang it.

(12-06-2013 08:26 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Tarp will be put out over seats for the Duke/Florida State matchup in the ACC Conference Championship game. Evidently neither school will bring many fans. Florida State won't bring many fans because Seminole fans assume Duke is weak match.

Arizona State will host Stanford and Stanford fans will have to drive 700 miles to get to Tempe.

PAC 12 CHAMPIONSHIP TICKETS CHEAPEST IN GAME'S SHORT HISTORY
By Jess Lawrence, Forbes
"PAC-12 Championship ticket prices are currently 49% below the Big Ten Championship game tickets and 70% below SEC Championship tickets....Attendance for the 2012 PAC-12 Championship game was only 31,622 in Stanford Stadium, which holds a capacity of 50,000."

Who can plan for Duke winning the Coastal? They don't have enough alums in North and South Carolina to fill most good high school stadiums and they have no FOOTBALL fans. The ACC fanbase that would travel in droves to watch a beatdown that is coming is NC State. Clemson got their earilier in the year and they are going to Miami. UNC/GT/VT/UVa would take a fair crew but the weather is going to be bad and intelligent fans don't want to see what is coming.

The only way to fix this is to switch Clemson into Miami's division and cut down on the two of them meeting mid-season. The two biggest fan bases should not be in the same division.

FSU 80K - Miami 50K
GT 55K- Clemson 80K
VT 70K- UVa - 65K
Pitt 55K- Syracuse - 43K
Wake 35K- NC State 58K
Louisville 55K - Duke 25K
BC 45K - UNC 60K


FSU, GT, Clemson, VT, UVA, UNC, NCSU, Louisville, and Pitt will fill their half of the stadium in Charlotte, baring something like this and a previous beat down. The big problem is that UVA, UNC, and NCSU have crapped the bed for the last two decades and not sniffed their divisions title. Wake, Duke, BC, Miami, and Syracuse are awfully small with small traveling contingents and for Miami, Syracuse, and BC it's a long distance on short notice.

Last year there were thousands of tickets left for the ACCCG at this time on stubhub. It's less than a thousand right now. Bank of America holds almost 74K. If there's less than a thousand tickets left on stubhub somebody is buying them. Either way, considering how much of a mismatch this potentially is, 60k would be phenomenal.

Pac 12 has no excuse. It's a home game for Arizona St.

BTW..SECCG has 3.00 tickets on Stubhub. That didn't happen last year.

(12-06-2013 09:28 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Last year there were thousands of tickets left for the ACCCG at this time on stubhub. It's less than a thousand right now. Bank of America holds almost 74K. If there's less than a thousand tickets left on stubhub somebody is buying them. Either way, considering how much of a mismatch this potentially is, 60k would be phenomenal.

Pac 12 has no excuse. It's a home game for Arizona St.

BTW..SECCG has 3.00 tickets on Stubhub. That didn't happen last year.

We bought two, we had four last year and did not go. If it rains again I will watch on TV. I will not get catch a cold watching Duke get beat. Now if it was to watch UNC or ND get beat, I would get a poncho.

One more thing, Lucas Oil Stadium (site of the B1G CG) holds only 62k so that's in a smaller stadium.

Maybe the pac should go to vegas for the site. Small stadium, easy travel, nice week-end trip for the fans, should sell out. ACC might want to go to Yankee stadium.

(12-06-2013 09:31 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  One more thing, Lucas Oil Stadium (site of the B1G CG) holds only 62k so that's in a smaller stadium.

OSU travels exceptionally well and it's a pretty reasonable drive from Columbus to Indy on I-70 (though the weather can't help). I expect a far better crowd than last year.

(12-06-2013 09:34 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 09:31 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  One more thing, Lucas Oil Stadium (site of the B1G CG) holds only 62k so that's in a smaller stadium.

OSU travels exceptionally well and it's a pretty reasonable drive from Columbus to Indy on I-70 (though the weather can't help). I expect a far better crowd than last year.

Having OSU there definitely helps. For the ACCCG, I'm still not sure if the attendance is that big of a problem....unless it rains.

(12-06-2013 09:29 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 09:28 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Last year there were thousands of tickets left for the ACCCG at this time on stubhub. It's less than a thousand right now. Bank of America holds almost 74K. If there's less than a thousand tickets left on stubhub somebody is buying them. Either way, considering how much of a mismatch this potentially is, 60k would be phenomenal.

Pac 12 has no excuse. It's a home game for Arizona St.

BTW..SECCG has 3.00 tickets on Stubhub. That didn't happen last year.

We bought two, we had four last year and did not go. If it rains again I will watch on TV. I will not get catch a cold watching Duke get beat. Now if it was to watch UNC or ND get beat, I would get a poncho.

I still can't believe Duke made it to the ACCCG before we did or Miami. Something is unbalanced in the world..especially those folks who express their undying hatred for the Heels

(12-06-2013 09:28 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Last year there were thousands of tickets left for the ACCCG at this time on stubhub. It's less than a thousand right now. Bank of America holds almost 74K. If there's less than a thousand tickets left on stubhub somebody is buying them. Either way, considering how much of a mismatch this potentially is, 60k would be phenomenal.

Pac 12 has no excuse. It's a home game for Arizona St.

BTW..SECCG has 3.00 tickets on Stubhub. That didn't happen last year.

Those 3 dollar tickets are parking passes.

Cheapest ticket at the moment is 169.00.

(12-06-2013 11:01 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 09:28 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Last year there were thousands of tickets left for the ACCCG at this time on stubhub. It's less than a thousand right now. Bank of America holds almost 74K. If there's less than a thousand tickets left on stubhub somebody is buying them. Either way, considering how much of a mismatch this potentially is, 60k would be phenomenal.

Pac 12 has no excuse. It's a home game for Arizona St.

BTW..SECCG has 3.00 tickets on Stubhub. That didn't happen last year.

Those 3 dollar tickets are parking passes.

Cheapest ticket at the moment is 169.00.

You're right. Looks like somebody put a fanfare ticket in with regular tickets.

I can't wait for the AAC to have a championship game. It will probably be at the home field of the better team; a neutral site would have embarrassing attendance issues.

(12-06-2013 11:08 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 11:01 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 09:28 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Last year there were thousands of tickets left for the ACCCG at this time on stubhub. It's less than a thousand right now. Bank of America holds almost 74K. If there's less than a thousand tickets left on stubhub somebody is buying them. Either way, considering how much of a mismatch this potentially is, 60k would be phenomenal.

Pac 12 has no excuse. It's a home game for Arizona St.

BTW..SECCG has 3.00 tickets on Stubhub. That didn't happen last year.

Those 3 dollar tickets are parking passes.

Cheapest ticket at the moment is 169.00.

You're right. Looks like somebody put a fanfare ticket in with regular tickets.

When South Carolina played in 2010 lowest tickets were over 300. This is low by comparison

(12-06-2013 11:16 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 11:08 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 11:01 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 09:28 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Last year there were thousands of tickets left for the ACCCG at this time on stubhub. It's less than a thousand right now. Bank of America holds almost 74K. If there's less than a thousand tickets left on stubhub somebody is buying them. Either way, considering how much of a mismatch this potentially is, 60k would be phenomenal.

Pac 12 has no excuse. It's a home game for Arizona St.

BTW..SECCG has 3.00 tickets on Stubhub. That didn't happen last year.

Those 3 dollar tickets are parking passes.

Cheapest ticket at the moment is 169.00.

You're right. Looks like somebody put a fanfare ticket in with regular tickets.

When South Carolina played in 2010 lowest tickets were over 300. This is low by comparison

It's because of Missouri. If it were Georgia, Florida, or even Tennessee it would be higher.

(12-06-2013 11:17 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 11:16 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 11:08 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 11:01 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 09:28 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Last year there were thousands of tickets left for the ACCCG at this time on stubhub. It's less than a thousand right now. Bank of America holds almost 74K. If there's less than a thousand tickets left on stubhub somebody is buying them. Either way, considering how much of a mismatch this potentially is, 60k would be phenomenal.

Pac 12 has no excuse. It's a home game for Arizona St.

BTW..SECCG has 3.00 tickets on Stubhub. That didn't happen last year.

Those 3 dollar tickets are parking passes.

Cheapest ticket at the moment is 169.00.

You're right. Looks like somebody put a fanfare ticket in with regular tickets.

When South Carolina played in 2010 lowest tickets were over 300. This is low by comparison

It's because of Missouri. If it were Georgia, Florida, or even Tennessee it would be higher.

Yeah. Atlanta is the perfect location, you have 6 schools within a 4-5 hour drive.

(12-06-2013 09:23 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 08:26 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Tarp will be put out over seats for the Duke/Florida State matchup in the ACC Conference Championship game. Evidently neither school will bring many fans. Florida State won't bring many fans because Seminole fans assume Duke is weak match.

Arizona State will host Stanford and Stanford fans will have to drive 700 miles to get to Tempe.

PAC 12 CHAMPIONSHIP TICKETS CHEAPEST IN GAME'S SHORT HISTORY
By Jess Lawrence, Forbes
"PAC-12 Championship ticket prices are currently 49% below the Big Ten Championship game tickets and 70% below SEC Championship tickets....Attendance for the 2012 PAC-12 Championship game was only 31,622 in Stanford Stadium, which holds a capacity of 50,000."

Who can plan for Duke winning the Coastal? They don't have enough alums in North and South Carolina to fill most good high school stadiums and they have no FOOTBALL fans. The ACC fanbase that would travel in droves to watch a beatdown that is coming is NC State. Clemson got their earilier in the year and they are going to Miami. UNC/GT/VT/UVa would take a fair crew but the weather is going to be bad and intelligent fans don't want to see what is coming.

The only way to fix this is to switch Clemson into Miami's division and cut down on the two of them meeting mid-season. The two biggest fan bases should not be in the same division.

FSU 80K - Miami 50K
GT 55K- Clemson 80K
VT 70K- UVa - 65K
Pitt 55K- Syracuse - 43K
Wake 35K- NC State 58K
Louisville 55K - Duke 25K
BC 45K - UNC 60K


FSU, GT, Clemson, VT, UVA, UNC, NCSU, Louisville, and Pitt will fill their half of the stadium in Charlotte, baring something like this and a previous beat down. The big problem is that UVA, UNC, and NCSU have crapped the bed for the last two decades and not sniffed their divisions title. Wake, Duke, BC, Miami, and Syracuse are awfully small with small traveling contingents and for Miami, Syracuse, and BC it's a long distance on short notice.

That makes no sense. - The part about State anyway. You're saying if State makes the ACCCG and are not favored to win then they are the only NC team willing to travel to see the beat down? Maybe I'm just not reading this the right way...

If State ever makes the CG then they'll have beaten (or at least be placed ahead of) FSU and Clemson, meaning the at least have a decent team even if those two are down. I don't see any team in the coastal that would hand the Atlantic champ a beat down except VT, and it probably wouldn't be too out of hand. So that means the State fans would be traveling to see a pretty good team, right? Or are you saying something completely different. Plus the non-diehard fans come out of the woodwork when states' winning. That goes for all of the NC schools really...

(12-06-2013 11:28 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 09:23 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 08:26 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Tarp will be put out over seats for the Duke/Florida State matchup in the ACC Conference Championship game. Evidently neither school will bring many fans. Florida State won't bring many fans because Seminole fans assume Duke is weak match.

Arizona State will host Stanford and Stanford fans will have to drive 700 miles to get to Tempe.

PAC 12 CHAMPIONSHIP TICKETS CHEAPEST IN GAME'S SHORT HISTORY
By Jess Lawrence, Forbes
"PAC-12 Championship ticket prices are currently 49% below the Big Ten Championship game tickets and 70% below SEC Championship tickets....Attendance for the 2012 PAC-12 Championship game was only 31,622 in Stanford Stadium, which holds a capacity of 50,000."

Who can plan for Duke winning the Coastal? They don't have enough alums in North and South Carolina to fill most good high school stadiums and they have no FOOTBALL fans. The ACC fanbase that would travel in droves to watch a beatdown that is coming is NC State. Clemson got their earilier in the year and they are going to Miami. UNC/GT/VT/UVa would take a fair crew but the weather is going to be bad and intelligent fans don't want to see what is coming.

The only way to fix this is to switch Clemson into Miami's division and cut down on the two of them meeting mid-season. The two biggest fan bases should not be in the same division.

FSU 80K - Miami 50K
GT 55K- Clemson 80K
VT 70K- UVa - 65K
Pitt 55K- Syracuse - 43K
Wake 35K- NC State 58K
Louisville 55K - Duke 25K
BC 45K - UNC 60K


FSU, GT, Clemson, VT, UVA, UNC, NCSU, Louisville, and Pitt will fill their half of the stadium in Charlotte, baring something like this and a previous beat down. The big problem is that UVA, UNC, and NCSU have crapped the bed for the last two decades and not sniffed their divisions title. Wake, Duke, BC, Miami, and Syracuse are awfully small with small traveling contingents and for Miami, Syracuse, and BC it's a long distance on short notice.

That makes no sense. - The part about State anyway. You're saying if State makes the ACCCG and are not favored to win then they are the only NC team willing to travel to see the beat down? Maybe I'm just not reading this the right way...

If State ever makes the CG then they'll have beaten (or at least be placed ahead of) FSU and Clemson, meaning the at least have a decent team even if those two are down. I don't see any team in the coastal that would hand the Atlantic champ a beat down except VT, and it probably wouldn't be too out of hand. So that means the State fans would be traveling to see a pretty good team, right? Or are you saying something completely different. Plus the non-diehard fans come out of the woodwork when states' winning. That goes for all of the NC schools really...

NC State does not have out of the woodwork or bandwagon fans. We had them 30 years ago, but they have long since faded away. Only the die-hards remain.

(12-06-2013 09:23 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  The only way to fix this is to switch Clemson into Miami's division and cut down on the two of them meeting mid-season. The two biggest fan bases should not be in the same division.

FSU 80K - Miami 50K
GT 55K- Clemson 80K
VT 70K- UVa - 65K
Pitt 55K- Syracuse - 43K
Wake 35K- NC State 58K
Louisville 55K - Duke 25K
BC 45K - UNC 60K


FSU, GT, Clemson, VT, UVA, UNC, NCSU, Louisville, and Pitt will fill their half of the stadium in Charlotte, baring something like this and a previous beat down.

Clemson would fill it's side of the stadium regardless of any previous beatdown, or opponent. There is absolutely no metric whatsoever besides your delusions where NC State would outdraw Clemson in fans traveling to see a football game. None.

And no f'n way to that abortion of a division you proposed. The only desirable games we have in that is Miami and GT. Plus we get stuck with FCS level road crowds from UNC, NCSU, UVA, and Syracuse. Duke brings about as many fans as Gaffney High School would, and probably less than Byrnes or Dorman.

Quote:The big problem is that UVA, UNC, and NCSU have crapped the bed for the last two decades and not sniffed their divisions title.

It's been almost 20 years for UVA (1995)

33 for UNC (1980) 34 for NC State (1979)

Duke has two in that time frame, Wake has one.

Quote:Wake, Duke, BC, Miami, and Syracuse are awfully small with small traveling contingents and for Miami, Syracuse, and BC it's a long distance on short notice.

Be sure to throw NC State in there because you already said on the ACC board that one of the reasons NC State didn't travel well to the Chick-fil-a Kickoff classic was because of the "short notice" they had on the Friday night game. Even though it was 6 1/2 months notice.

(12-06-2013 11:08 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  You're right. Looks like somebody put a fanfare ticket in with regular tickets.

Current Stubhub lowest prices:

SEC: $168
B1G: $112
PAC: $34
ACC: $22

For the ACC, that's pretty good.