Just checked the football commits for 2014 and noticed a high number players only ranked two stars. Out of 14 commits only two were ranked three stars. This is not encouraging. Tulsa should have mostly three star ranked players if they hope to compete well in the AAC. I know rankings are not everything, but it gives fans some type of gauge to see how well the football recruiters are doing. I would say so far not good.

After a 3-9 season.......recruiting is very important, especially when we are moving into a tougher conference. Maybe we will become the SEC's Kentucky in the new AAC, the team everybody looks forward to playing. I don't know if it makes any difference the kind of recruits we get if we don't come up with a new offense......this 2 rushes and a pass is not going to make it.......our kicker has more attempts than our QB has pass attempts. It isn't hard for a defense to game plan when they play us.

(12-05-2013 09:22 AM)jfisher Wrote:  After a 3-9 season.......recruiting is very important, especially when we are moving into a tougher conference. Maybe we will become the SEC's Kentucky in the new AAC, the team everybody looks forward to playing. I don't know if it makes any difference the kind of recruits we get if we don't come up with a new offense......this 2 rushes and a pass is not going to make it.......our kicker has more attempts than our QB has pass attempts. It isn't hard for a defense to game plan when they play us.

Bingo on those posts.

We need a better offense and the ability to find a new Trey - a kid that can hit a home run. We need a consistent running game, but we need a passing game that will be a real weapon and not something to use for a third and long call.

The AAC is a tougher conference and Tulsa will get mashed if this level of recruitment continues. Need new good OC along with a Special Teams coach just to do as well as this year. (Being a little sarcastic here, still wasn't good) Seeing all those two star players being recruited I see visions of one win next year. We maybe the equivalent of the AAC's USM next year. Just expect them to be better year next though.

Some of the posters on rivals are reporting rumors that several players are looking to transfer including Jalen Lowe. There is no confirmation on that and I am skeptical of some of that talk, especially when most of the names are left out. But we'll see if this rumor has legs or not.

There are always players that, for a vairety of reasons, move on, but most of the time they aren't necessarily the best players.

In the future, if we continue this offense, we won't even get a decent look from a passing QB or any half way decent wide receivers.....we don't have years to make the changes or we will be the Kentucky in the new AAC for a long time.......and at my age, I don't have that many years to waste on bad football. Where is Jerry Rhome and Howard Twilley when you need them!!!!

(12-06-2013 01:26 PM)jfisher Wrote:  In the future, if we continue this offense, we won't even get a decent look from a passing QB or any half way decent wide receivers.....we don't have years to make the changes or we will be the Kentucky in the new AAC for a long time.......and at my age, I don't have that many years to waste on bad football. Where is Jerry Rhome and Howard Twilley when you need them!!!!

Sounds like you've been a TU person a long time. I remember my first game watching John Simmons catch a bundle of passes. I think it was 1962 or 1963. I was pretty young, but was already into CFB. The old north stands, the Glencliff section. I bet most TU fans are too young to remember that

I think there is a decent chance BB will pull the right strings in the off season. The only thing I fear is that he is isolated from reality by his staff who have their own agenda - keeping their jobs. He must divorce himself from any staff member that isn't getting the job done. It may not be effort on their part as much as it is the vision of how to make TU better than 2013. The ship doesn't have to sink with everyone aboard. But BB can save his program if he sees where the problems lie. I define that as continuing poor play from the same positions this year that have occurred since his first year as HFBC.

(12-06-2013 06:57 PM)rabidTU2 Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 01:26 PM)jfisher Wrote:  In the future, if we continue this offense, we won't even get a decent look from a passing QB or any half way decent wide receivers.....we don't have years to make the changes or we will be the Kentucky in the new AAC for a long time.......and at my age, I don't have that many years to waste on bad football. Where is Jerry Rhome and Howard Twilley when you need them!!!!

Sounds like you've been a TU person a long time. I remember my first game watching John Simmons catch a bundle of passes. I think it was 1962 or 1963. I was pretty young, but was already into CFB. The old north stands, the Glencliff section. I bet most TU fans are too young to remember that

I think there is a decent chance BB will pull the right strings in the off season. The only thing I fear is that he is isolated from reality by his staff who have their own agenda - keeping their jobs. He must divorce himself from any staff member that isn't getting the job done. It may not be effort on their part as much as it is the vision of how to make TU better than 2013. The ship doesn't have to sink with everyone aboard. But BB can save his program if he sees where the problems lie. I define that as continuing poor play from the same positions this year that have occurred since his first year as HFBC.

Some hard decisions will have to be made, quickly too.

(12-06-2013 10:05 PM)TulsaEye Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 06:57 PM)rabidTU2 Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 01:26 PM)jfisher Wrote:  In the future, if we continue this offense, we won't even get a decent look from a passing QB or any half way decent wide receivers.....we don't have years to make the changes or we will be the Kentucky in the new AAC for a long time.......and at my age, I don't have that many years to waste on bad football. Where is Jerry Rhome and Howard Twilley when you need them!!!!

Sounds like you've been a TU person a long time. I remember my first game watching John Simmons catch a bundle of passes. I think it was 1962 or 1963. I was pretty young, but was already into CFB. The old north stands, the Glencliff section. I bet most TU fans are too young to remember that

I think there is a decent chance BB will pull the right strings in the off season. The only thing I fear is that he is isolated from reality by his staff who have their own agenda - keeping their jobs. He must divorce himself from any staff member that isn't getting the job done. It may not be effort on their part as much as it is the vision of how to make TU better than 2013. The ship doesn't have to sink with everyone aboard. But BB can save his program if he sees where the problems lie. I define that as continuing poor play from the same positions this year that have occurred since his first year as HFBC.

Some hard decisions will have to be made, quickly too.

A long, long time TU fan......I was in the student section, in 1963, when Simmons was catching those passes......so I've been through some really good times and also some long droughts with the wrong coach!! How the coach perceives Tulsa has a lot to do with it, I think. When Tulsa was playing in the Bluebonnet Bowl against SEC competition and winning one year(lost the 2nd one because the weather wasn't conducive for passing) with this new passing game, we were big time.....really big time.....runner up for the Heisman trophy two years in a row......these players today need to know some of the history. We may not be a candidate for the #1 spot in the country but we could be Top 25 material in most years.

To be top 25 you need the right coaching staff who can recruit. I am just not convinced that Tulsa has it at the moment.

(12-07-2013 09:07 PM)TulsaEye Wrote:  To be top 25 you need the right coaching staff who can recruit. I am just not convinced that Tulsa has it at the moment.

There was somthing BB said when he hired his staff that I didn't particulaly think about at the time. He said that he put together a staff that he was familiar with and who recruited his kids because he knew them so well. But in retrospect, that may be a problem now since we know he hit a homerun with the defensive staff, but not necessarily the rest.

That might have meant that the coaches he hired came from a small pool of confidants and friends rather than a large pool of highly innovative coaches who could both recruit and develope players and groups. I now actually think the recruiting has been better than the devloping. Some coaches are better in one aspect of those two than the other and IMO the coaching end is the weaker. And now we've come to the end of the TG recruits and this "MAY" be the result.

I hope I'm wrong!

BB need to be willing to take chance on kids he hasn't bothered with. He needs to hit, for him new territory like Texas extensively. I am sure there is tons of players out there he hasn't even talked to yet or for that matter other members of the staff. All of the them need to get out and talk to players instead of just writing them off. If they don't have the money to recruit find it.! There is always a way to it. The BCS boys know all those tricks and use them.

In our better days, I could look in the paper and see the Top 100 North Texas recruits and Tulsa was in on 12-20 of them depending on the year......this year the number was 2.........they need to recruit Texas more.....why they stopped I don't know but if they want to win again they better get out of Tulsa county!!!!!