(12-04-2013 08:35 PM)HuskiemobileMan Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 07:44 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 07:32 PM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  I don't think a playoff for all conference champs is realistic. I mean the winner of the MAC/Sun Belt etc gets in and not the #2 SEC team, that seems really unfair.

Read Death to the BCS. The authors lay out a reasonable plan for a 16-team playoff that would have berths for all 11 FBS conferences and 5 at-large berths.

The reason I think it will happen is there is a HUGE pot of additional TV money to be made on a playoff. That will eventually be too tempting for even the big boys of college football to pass up.

Should be 10 automatic (since WAC is gone) and 6 at large bids.

It was written a couple years before the collapse of the WAC, and what they laid out would still work with 10 auto bids and 6 at larges I believe.

I second the book recommendation. I got it for Christmas a few years back and found it really compelling. Not only do they lay out a pretty flawless plan for a 16-team playoff, they also expose a lot of the corruption and inherent flaws that existed within the BCS. When I read it, I was in undergrad at South Carolina, and I would think reading it from the mindset of an NIU fan now would be interesting as well.

I always get a kick when somebody tries to sound intelligent, yet makes numerous grammatical errors in their statement. I guess there's a reason OSU isn't ranked too high academically.

I also love that the NIU/little guy hate always stems from the conference that's just barely an AQ one. Seriously, without Oklahoma and Texas that conference would be roughly the same level as AAC or MWC. All those butt-hurt Big 12 bloggers/pollsters should find another outlet for their rage...

(12-04-2013 10:46 PM)flscniu Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 08:35 PM)HuskiemobileMan Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 07:44 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 07:32 PM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  I don't think a playoff for all conference champs is realistic. I mean the winner of the MAC/Sun Belt etc gets in and not the #2 SEC team, that seems really unfair.

Read Death to the BCS. The authors lay out a reasonable plan for a 16-team playoff that would have berths for all 11 FBS conferences and 5 at-large berths.

The reason I think it will happen is there is a HUGE pot of additional TV money to be made on a playoff. That will eventually be too tempting for even the big boys of college football to pass up.

Should be 10 automatic (since WAC is gone) and 6 at large bids.

It was written a couple years before the collapse of the WAC, and what they laid out would still work with 10 auto bids and 6 at larges I believe.

I second the book recommendation. I got it for Christmas a few years back and found it really compelling. Not only do they lay out a pretty flawless plan for a 16-team playoff, they also expose a lot of the corruption and inherent flaws that existed within the BCS. When I read it, I was in undergrad at South Carolina, and I would think reading it from the mindset of an NIU fan now would be interesting as well.

In that case if it makes sense then they'll definitely not change the system to it.

(12-04-2013 08:27 PM)prairiedawg Wrote:  I don't think he was too rough on NIU. I am sure they aren't too excited playing NIU but it should be different since hopefully NI will be undefeated.

Bigger question....why do so many fat guys grow goatees?

Because it's easier than losing weight, and they think it makes them look tough rather than just looking like a lard a**.

Quote:I don't think a playoff for all conference champs is realistic. I mean the winner of the MAC/Sun Belt etc gets in and not the #2 SEC team, that seems really unfair.

The #2 SEC team always gets into the BCS Bowls... maybe not the #2 of B12, ACC, or (old) Big East, sure... but SEC or PAC12 or many times B10, and sometimes the others? Yeah...

But I totally agree -- a playoff for all conference champs -- that is realistic.

D1AA has 24 teams -- 16 teams playing 1 round (to make it 8) to see who plays the Top 8 in the country who got a bye.

That way, FSU, Ohio State, Auburn, etc -- they wouldn't have to play Marshall of top CUSA or Louisiana-Laff of Sun Belt, b!tching how they don't deserve to have to play them.

I think that's the best, so the best teams don't have to whine about not deserving another game, etc. Although that would be less money for them (but more rest for their mildly injured ones).

5 BCS Conf (PAC12, B12, B10, SEC, ACC)
5 MIDMAJOR Conf (MW, Sun Belt, MAC, CUSA, AAC)

- You'd have 10 Automatic Qualifiers
- 1 Top Mid Major At-Large who did NOT win their conference IF still ranked in Top 16 (doesn't have to be above anyone else)
- Any At-Larges must have at least 9 wins and be in Top 25
- Max 4 teams per conference (if you could only make 5th in conference, you deserve no shot at playoff for national champs)
- If no at-large teams left within Top 25, 5th from a same conference can be chosen

(12-05-2013 12:24 AM)toddjnsn Wrote:  

Quote:I don't think a playoff for all conference champs is realistic. I mean the winner of the MAC/Sun Belt etc gets in and not the #2 SEC team, that seems really unfair.

The #2 SEC team always gets into the BCS Bowls... maybe not the #2 of B12, ACC, or (old) Big East, sure... but SEC or PAC12 or many times B10, and sometimes the others? Yeah...

The first post regarding the system only referred to the conference champs getting bids.

If we're going to nitpick I can say for the 00-01, 02-03, 03-04, 04-05, and 05-06 seasons the 2nd place SEC team didn't make a BCS bowl, so it's not always.

The writer shouldn't get his panties in a wad. If OK St wins by a large enough margin and

1) FSU losses to Duke, they will drop big
2) OSU losses to MSU, they will drop down to 7-8
3) Auburn losses to Mizzou, they drop down to 7-9

4) Mizzou jumps the 3 losing teams and Alabama up to #1 ranking

5) If OK St beats Okie by a large enough margin (say 4 td's) they have a shot to move from #6 to #2.

It's not likely but is possible that Ok St plays in the national title game if this scenario takes place.

If OK State moves up to #2, the winner of Baylor/Texas would play the Huskies

Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.

(12-05-2013 01:57 AM)Poliicious Wrote:  The writer shouldn't get his panties in a wad. If OK St wins by a large enough margin and

1) FSU losses to Duke, they will drop big
2) OSU losses to MSU, they will drop down to 7-8
3) Auburn losses to Mizzou, they drop down to 7-9

4) Mizzou jumps the 3 losing teams and Alabama up to #1 ranking

5) If OK St beats Okie by a large enough margin (say 4 td's) they have a shot to move from #6 to #2.

It's not likely but is possible that Ok St plays in the national title game if this scenario takes place.

If OK State moves up to #2, the winner of Baylor/Texas would play the Huskies

In that scenario it would come down to Bama, OK State and don't forget about 1 loss Michigan St who just beat the #2 team in the nation for the #2 spot.

(12-05-2013 12:24 AM)toddjnsn Wrote:  

Quote:I don't think a playoff for all conference champs is realistic. I mean the winner of the MAC/Sun Belt etc gets in and not the #2 SEC team, that seems really unfair.

The #2 SEC team always gets into the BCS Bowls... maybe not the #2 of B12, ACC, or (old) Big East, sure... but SEC or PAC12 or many times B10, and sometimes the others? Yeah...

But I totally agree -- a playoff for all conference champs -- that is realistic.

D1AA has 24 teams -- 16 teams playing 1 round (to make it 8) to see who plays the Top 8 in the country who got a bye.

That way, FSU, Ohio State, Auburn, etc -- they wouldn't have to play Marshall of top CUSA or Louisiana-Laff of Sun Belt, b!tching how they don't deserve to have to play them.

I think that's the best, so the best teams don't have to whine about not deserving another game, etc. Although that would be less money for them (but more rest for their mildly injured ones).

5 BCS Conf (PAC12, B12, B10, SEC, ACC)
5 MIDMAJOR Conf (MW, Sun Belt, MAC, CUSA, AAC)

- You'd have 10 Automatic Qualifiers
- 1 Top Mid Major At-Large who did NOT win their conference IF still ranked in Top 16 (doesn't have to be above anyone else)
- Any At-Larges must have at least 9 wins and be in Top 25
- Max 4 teams per conference (if you could only make 5th in conference, you deserve no shot at playoff for national champs)
- If no at-large teams left within Top 25, 5th from a same conference can be chosen

I suppose you could also then envision a scenario of:

* Each power conference champion (5)
* 1 of the Group of Five teams
* 2 at-large teams

That mat be a little more realistic and the logical next step. That would be 8 teams and no one is "left out".

(12-05-2013 01:57 AM)Poliicious Wrote:  The writer shouldn't get his panties in a wad. If OK St wins by a large enough margin and

1) FSU losses to Duke, they will drop big
2) OSU losses to MSU, they will drop down to 7-8
3) Auburn losses to Mizzou, they drop down to 7-9

4) Mizzou jumps the 3 losing teams and Alabama up to #1 ranking

5) If OK St beats Okie by a large enough margin (say 4 td's) they have a shot to move from #6 to #2.

It's not likely but is possible that Ok St plays in the national title game if this scenario takes place.

If OK State moves up to #2, the winner of Baylor/Texas would play the Huskies

What would've been even simpler is if Oklahoma State hadn't s#*t down their leg against the West Virginia Special Olympians.

Win your games. We don't get to b*#ch if we lose tomorrow night. Stop losing to schools like Iowa St and W Va and Okie St will get taken seriously in the national championship picture.

jelmquist@stwnewspress.com ...lol

With the Okie State loss in the Bedlam game today, they won't have to worry about playing a non AQ team in an AQ bowl game

(12-04-2013 11:12 PM)Michael the Narwhal Wrote:  I always get a kick when somebody tries to sound intelligent, yet makes numerous grammatical errors in their statement. I guess there's a reason OSU isn't ranked too high academically.

I also love that the NIU/little guy hate always stems from the conference that's just barely an AQ one. Seriously, without Oklahoma and Texas that conference would be roughly the same level as AAC or MWC. All those butt-hurt Big 12 bloggers/pollsters should find another outlet for their rage...

Hmm, according to US News and World Report-Best Colleges ranking, OSU is ranked 142 for Natl Universities. NIU is...177, tied with Southern and behind UIC and ISU.

If an Okie State Cowboy-person gives you the business, just ask them about their last decade or so against Oklahoma. That'll get 'em crying.