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Question Athletic vs Academic Spending(Solomon)
Alabama universities spend money at a faster rate on athletics than academics(Solomon)
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/...l#comments
12-04-2013 10:30 AM
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Groundbreaking journalism there. Go ahead and give Geraldo Solomon the Pulitzer
12-04-2013 10:56 AM
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Now BamanBlazerfan has all new numbers to spew adnaseum
12-04-2013 10:58 AM
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In regards to Solomon's article, something about Sherlock.
12-04-2013 11:00 AM
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RE: Athletic vs Academic Spending(Solomon)
Academic spending will increase as soon as we require helmets for all students, have 6 or 7 classes per year in various locations around the country for which a bus or plane is required, give every student a full scholarship, and so on...

Does anyone care that more is spent per player than per student? Isn't it obvious?
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12-04-2013 11:16 AM
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RE: Athletic vs Academic Spending(Solomon)
(12-04-2013 11:16 AM)the Dragon Wrote:  Academic spending will increase as soon as we require helmets for all students, have 6 or 7 classes per year in various locations around the country for which a bus or plane is required, give every student a full scholarship, and so on...

Does anyone care that more is spent per player than per student? Isn't it obvious?

In the research study I quoted in a B&G thread, In 2010 (the latest complete figures) the MEDIAN conference schools at all levels spent more annually per athlete than per regular students. The #1 conference median school in average per athlete spending was the SEC at $165,000. That was about $35,000 more than the median school in the #2 conference, the Big 12. The conference with the highest per regular student was the Big 10 at about $19,000 per student (the SEC was #7 on that list).

As an article in the Tuscaloosa NEWS stated, during the same 4 year period that the state's two BCS schools won every BCS NC (2008-2012), the state cut public school funding by the greatest amount - almost $1400 - of ANY of the 50 states. We won 5 NCs during that period.

BTW MB, I didn't need Solomon to tell me that well established fact. His figures come from the same source mine did last time - the Delta Cost Project but updated one year. Now if the USA can just get North Korea, Iran, China and other problem nations to settle every dispute in a football playoff system, we would have no troubles in this world.
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12-04-2013 11:34 AM
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RE: Athletic vs Academic Spending(Solomon)
(12-04-2013 11:34 AM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  
(12-04-2013 11:16 AM)the Dragon Wrote:  Academic spending will increase as soon as we require helmets for all students, have 6 or 7 classes per year in various locations around the country for which a bus or plane is required, give every student a full scholarship, and so on...

Does anyone care that more is spent per player than per student? Isn't it obvious?

In the research study I quoted in a B&G thread, In 2010 (the latest complete figures) the MEDIAN conference schools at all levels spent more annually per athlete than per regular students. The #1 conference median school in average per athlete spending was the SEC at $165,000. That was about $35,000 more than the median school in the #2 conference, the Big 12. The conference with the highest per regular student was the Big 10 at about $19,000 per student (the SEC was #7 on that list).

As an article in the Tuscaloosa NEWS stated, during the same 4 year period that the state's two BCS schools won every BCS NC (2008-2012), the state cut public school funding by the greatest amount - almost $1400 - of ANY of the 50 states. We won 5 NCs during that period.

BTW MB, I didn't need Solomon to tell me that well established fact. His figures come from the same source mine did last time - the Delta Cost Project but updated one year. Now if the USA can just get North Korea, Iran, China and other problem nations to settle every dispute in a football playoff system, we would have no troubles in this world.

Related Article from today:
State funding for public colleges and universities down $452 million in wake of recession (list)
http://blog.al.com/wire/2013/12/alabamas...lyout_news
12-04-2013 04:10 PM
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oh lawd. Here it comes.
12-04-2013 04:14 PM
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(12-04-2013 04:14 PM)the_blazerman Wrote:  oh lawd. Here it comes.

What is left to say to those for whom academic funding in our state is not a priority as long as their kid's (suburban) schools are unaffected - beyond bus service. The entertainment function of high schools and colleges through football is the main thing schools are for in Alabama - perhaps second only to tax paid day care in K-12. That's why our major high schools often have $100,000 sports coaches and $30,000 to $40,000 Math & Science teachers.
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RE: Athletic vs Academic Spending(Solomon)
I didn't hear the show, byt apparently Solomon was on Memphis radio today. Here apparently is what the host took out of the interview and what Solomon is pushing. I'm betting that it wasn't mentioned that spending per student is higher at UAB than the other schools listed.

@geoff_calkins: Thanks to @jonsol for hopping on show. One nugget: Since 2007, spending per student at UAB has gone down 4%, per athlete has gone up 30%,
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RE: Athletic vs Academic Spending(Solomon)
(12-04-2013 07:09 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  I didn't hear the show, byt apparently Solomon was on Memphis radio today. Here apparently is what the host took out of the interview and what Solomon is pushing. I'm betting that it wasn't mentioned that spending per student is higher at UAB than the other schools listed.

@geoff_calkins: Thanks to @jonsol for hopping on show. One nugget: Since 2007, spending per student at UAB has gone down 4%, per athlete has gone up 30%,

When one starts with 2007 and proceed to 2012, ALL public school funding from the SETF was cut in Alabama by the largest amount in all 50 states - nearly $1400 per pupil annually (about 20%). UAB does not have the charitable contributions to completely cover these shortages in funding for academics. It does have some for athletics, however. Most athletic funding expenditure is "in house" since it involves the Athletic Dept. writing checks to the school administration.
12-05-2013 11:03 AM
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RE: Athletic vs Academic Spending(Solomon)
(12-04-2013 11:00 AM)the_blazerman Wrote:  In regards to Solomon's article, something about Sherlock.

You meant "Hemlock", didn't you?
12-05-2013 05:51 PM
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