In the future, a hierarchy of tie breakers could be used. They need to be set so no votes are involved since that could be rigged. For example:


1. Conference record
2. Head to head result
3. Who has not hosted yet
4. Record against common opponents
5. Non-conference record with a weight reflecting the strength of the opponent
6. Other factors that are specified before the season starts

(12-02-2013 12:34 PM)I45owl Wrote:  

(12-02-2013 09:09 AM)Caelligh Wrote:  ETA: I just looked at some of the Marshall boards. Their point about the over-weighting of the computer ranking appears to be valid, but no one (so far) has questioned the accuracy of the human poll votes that Marshall received. The human polls are way too susceptible to gamesmanship to reliably distinguish teams at our level. A much cleaner way to have handled the tie-breaker would have been to award 0 points to both teams for the human polls because neither team is ranked in the Top 25 of either poll. That would leave only the computer ranking to break the tie.

I'm starting to understand it, but they are also suggesting using the formula for top-25 votes and projecting the points to votes based on 129 teams, which presupposes that everyone voting intended to vote Rice as the 129th team out of the field, which highlights the stupidity of relying on BCS rankings.

A coin flip begins to sound more and more appealing, as would "average cost of hotel rooms", or "least expensive round-trip tickets" (to whichever city the visiting fans would choose to fly).

edit: maybe we should look at the situation this way... this is an opportunity for (1) the CUSA office to be fair, (2) the CUSA office to put the goals of the conference above those of the individual teams, and/or (3) the CUSA office to change behavior of the schools to benefit the conference as a whole. #1 is a fool's errand in this case. #2 would lead to a subjective and controversial arbitrary decision behind closed doors. #3 could be interesting - awarding the home game based on non-conference scheduling (who played the highest-ranked opponent, number of BCSAQ teams scheduled OOC, deduct for patsies, etc). IF the ultimate goal for the conference is to encourage teams to reach the BCS, then encourage them to schedule as tough an OOC slate as possible, and do that by awarding the championship game accordingly. Or, just flip a coin...

(12-03-2013 01:44 AM)I45owl Wrote:  

(12-02-2013 11:29 AM)Herdthedrums1 Wrote:  I would like to invite you guys over to herdfans.com when the smoke clears. Most of us were confused and upset with the way cusa handled things. Nevertheless you guys deserved to host just as much as we did. Should be a good game that I wish I could see in person.

(12-03-2013 01:23 AM)RiceDad Wrote:  Why not?

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Thanks for your comments. I have a lot of tolerance for the Green Queen and admire her passion. It's just a shame that America will not hear much about two great schools from different backgrounds and wonderful History that will be mixing it up Saturday. Too bad you can't make the game.
Best of luck and even though someone has to lose the game-- these young men are all WINNERS!!!

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I would like to invite you guys over to herdfans.com when the smoke clears. Most of us were confused and upset with the way cusa handled things. Nevertheless you guys deserved to host just as much as we did. Should be a good game that I wish I could see in person. :cheers:
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CincoKaty was responding to Herdthedrums1, who is the one that said they could not be there, presumably because they live in West Virginia. Tags were screwed up...

Yeah I'm in WV and I'm a poor college student. If I had a way I would. Again good luck to Rice you all are a classy bunch. Also sorry if this has a bunch of tags.

(12-04-2013 10:48 AM)Herdthedrums1 Wrote:  Yeah I'm in WV and I'm a poor college student. If I had a way I would. Again good luck to Rice you all are a classy bunch. Also sorry if this has a bunch of tags.

We regularly have posts where a bunch of tags get screwed up... Just a fact of life on the internet message boards.

I have other obligations and will have to watch the game tape-delayed. To my shame, my excuse is not as good.

Feel free to shoot over to

herdhaven.com as well

Myself and a few others are leaving tomorrow night to make the drive down.

So this was posted on HerdHaven.com:

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/c-us...narios.pdf

Apparently it is the pregame for 11/24 games, which includes the line:

Quote:Based on the teams controlling their destinies to win the divisions, BCS ranking (i.e. average computer ranking) would be used to
determine host, as Rice does not play East Carolina or Marshall in the regular season.

So it would at least appear that the decision to use the computer ranking wasn't contrived right before they released the host.