(12-01-2013 10:05 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  I was going to make the same point about the lack of a good PG. Curry is not one right now. He currently has not been a threat to penetrate and create for his teammates. Does the offense bog down because of this or do his teammates not create passing lanes for him? He was outclassed last night by the PG (Lindsey?) for UR. Curry is a Soph and UR's PG is a Senior. Curry is not horrible he is just not as good as Lindsey.

JMU is really missing Devon this year.

I think part of the problem is Curry comes down the court and he's really only got one guy to throw the ball to right now which is Cooke who is struggling (except during garbage time when the game is over and he pads his stats). Getting Nation back won't be a sudden cure but it sure as hell will help. We've got a lot of guys out there now who look scared to death when they get the ball in their hands. Bottom line, though, is freshman or not, some of these guys need to start knocking down some damn shots. The shooting is ridiculously bad. I know these are freshman and it will take them some time to develop but the one thing they should be able to do coming out of HS is hit an open jumper, especially being European guys where they come from more of a finesse, jump shooting style of play.

(12-01-2013 10:04 AM)Dukeman2 Wrote:  It is fascinating how accepting JMU fans are of a basketball team that is so clearly overmatched.

We are in year five of a program and we had the NCAA tournamnet bid last year; yet somehow a .500 season would be considered good against the left overs in the CAA and one of the weakest schedules in the country again this year.

Is the future really that bright?

We definitely looked overmatched but the reason we're being accepting right now is because of the position this team is in. They're missing their best 3-point shooter in Andrey Semenov. They're missing another of their best players in Andre Nation. They lost Devon Moore, Alioune Diouf, Rayshawn Goins, and A.J. Davis from last year's team. This year is a total rebuild year and honestly, anything over .500 is gravy and just builds confidence further. This team will be fine going forward but we need to be patient right now.

(12-01-2013 10:04 AM)Dukeman2 Wrote:  It is fascinating how accepting JMU fans are of a basketball team that is so clearly overmatched.

We are in year five of a program and we had the NCAA tournamnet bid last year; yet somehow a .500 season would be considered good against the left overs in the CAA and one of the weakest schedules in the country again this year.

Is the future really that bright?

It's going to take several years of solid recruiting in a row to get us where we need to be. Brady was basically recruiting with one hand tied behind his back last year being a lame duck. MM had no such excuse the last five years.


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Here is a stat that will improve... JMU would be the worst 3pt shooting team in the nation if they had enough attempts.
If they simply go from the worst to "bad" they will make another two 3pt shots per game on average. The 3 ball is the great equalizer in college hoops.
Brady will be putting shot restrictions on some players once the entire roster is intact. Semenov will have the only permanent green light.

(12-01-2013 12:30 PM)JMU2014 Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 10:04 AM)Dukeman2 Wrote:  It is fascinating how accepting JMU fans are of a basketball team that is so clearly overmatched.

We are in year five of a program and we had the NCAA tournamnet bid last year; yet somehow a .500 season would be considered good against the left overs in the CAA and one of the weakest schedules in the country again this year.

Is the future really that bright?

We definitely looked overmatched but the reason we're being accepting right now is because of the position this team is in. They're missing their best 3-point shooter in Andrey Semenov. They're missing another of their best players in Andre Nation. They lost Devon Moore, Alioune Diouf, Rayshawn Goins, and A.J. Davis from last year's team. This year is a total rebuild year and honestly, anything over .500 is gravy and just builds confidence further. This team will be fine going forward but we need to be patient right now.

This is pretty much what I expected but the thing that concerns me is most of the freshman aren't even flashing. We knew they'd struggle but even as freshman you want to see guys do things that show big potential and we just haven't really seen that.....at least I haven't.

This is a bad team, plain and simple. I watched the game from my computer down in Florida. Overall, team is shooting 38.8% from the field and about 21 or 22% from three. Semenov is not the best player on the team, only the most experienced. He's shooting about 25 or 26% from three, about 42% from the free throw line and about 41% overall. When I've watched Semenov this season, he's tried to do too much and I'm not sure anyone can count on him to be healthy for any sustained stretch of play given his history.

For the first time this season, Brady, to me, looked very frustrated on the sidelines. In the post game, he sounded quite frustrated and upset. Previously, he had been positive and had thought that this would become a good team. I think he now fully realizes what he's up against.

I think the relative closeness of some of these games is deceiving because opponents simply are never challenged by the Dukes' offense. It consists of rotating the ball around the perimeter like a grade school team, with very little in the way of cutting to the basket or any kind of consistent low post game, not to mention the total lack of a transition game. On top of that, the three point shooting threat really isn't there and the defense pushes JMU's offense out even further as each game progresses.

I agree with the poster that said that none of these freshmen really flash any potential. I think you're looking at a class full of guys that should be 10 through 13 on one's rotation.

The CAA is no joke...won't be getting a lot easier going forward.

(12-01-2013 12:48 PM)JMU_Newbill Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 10:04 AM)Dukeman2 Wrote:  It is fascinating how accepting JMU fans are of a basketball team that is so clearly overmatched.

We are in year five of a program and we had the NCAA tournamnet bid last year; yet somehow a .500 season would be considered good against the left overs in the CAA and one of the weakest schedules in the country again this year.

Is the future really that bright?

It's going to take several years of solid recruiting in a row to get us where we need to be. Brady was basically recruiting with one hand tied behind his back last year being a lame duck. MM had no such excuse the last five years.


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In other words, this may be the first time in college basketball history where a coach was hired to rebuild the program, and then extended five years later to rebuild it again.

(12-01-2013 01:12 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 12:30 PM)JMU2014 Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 10:04 AM)Dukeman2 Wrote:  It is fascinating how accepting JMU fans are of a basketball team that is so clearly overmatched.

We are in year five of a program and we had the NCAA tournamnet bid last year; yet somehow a .500 season would be considered good against the left overs in the CAA and one of the weakest schedules in the country again this year.

Is the future really that bright?

We definitely looked overmatched but the reason we're being accepting right now is because of the position this team is in. They're missing their best 3-point shooter in Andrey Semenov. They're missing another of their best players in Andre Nation. They lost Devon Moore, Alioune Diouf, Rayshawn Goins, and A.J. Davis from last year's team. This year is a total rebuild year and honestly, anything over .500 is gravy and just builds confidence further. This team will be fine going forward but we need to be patient right now.

This is pretty much what I expected but the thing that concerns me is most of the freshman aren't even flashing. We knew they'd struggle but even as freshman you want to see guys do things that show big potential and we just haven't really seen that.....at least I haven't.

This is what I've seen and heard, except for 1 or 2 the freshman aren't caa level players. It's also one thing to be young and inexperienced but there is lack of basketball fundermentals and playing hard. I don't care if you aren't on contract and can't recruit talent, at least recruit fundementally sound players that will run through a wall for their teammates and coaches. I have not seen any game this year where we clearly outplayed the opponent.

Ron is not a 100% right now but I do think he is going to
Turn out to be a great pg.

Cooke needs to be reeled in and mentored before he loses his confidence or team concept.

The kent and Tom V will settle in imce the burden of scoring is lifted off their backs with the return of nation and semy

(12-01-2013 01:12 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 12:30 PM)JMU2014 Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 10:04 AM)Dukeman2 Wrote:  It is fascinating how accepting JMU fans are of a basketball team that is so clearly overmatched.

We are in year five of a program and we had the NCAA tournamnet bid last year; yet somehow a .500 season would be considered good against the left overs in the CAA and one of the weakest schedules in the country again this year.

Is the future really that bright?

We definitely looked overmatched but the reason we're being accepting right now is because of the position this team is in. They're missing their best 3-point shooter in Andrey Semenov. They're missing another of their best players in Andre Nation. They lost Devon Moore, Alioune Diouf, Rayshawn Goins, and A.J. Davis from last year's team. This year is a total rebuild year and honestly, anything over .500 is gravy and just builds confidence further. This team will be fine going forward but we need to be patient right now.

This is pretty much what I expected but the thing that concerns me is most of the freshman aren't even flashing. We knew they'd struggle but even as freshman you want to see guys do things that show big potential and we just haven't really seen that.....at least I haven't.

I think Kent and Vodanovich have shown flashes at times throughout this season. Against Detroit, Kent came off the bench and scored the next 6 points for the Dukes in only a few possessions. This team is pretty bad right now, I'll be the first to admit that. But I think they'll improve as this year goes on and as their careers progress. Some of these guys have played 8 career games. We've got to give it a little time.

Ah, the dust has hardly settled on Mickey's grave, and we're already tearing Brady a new one. I love this place. :)

This is a bad team. It's a young team. Brady has a rep for running off players, so who knows how many of these guys we'll see again. And how good is Andre Nation? He had some good moments at the end of last season, but not much of a track record.

It's hard to get good players to come to JMU. Kenny has been coaching the women forever, and has probably done as good a job as you can expect any coach to do at JMU. Lefty used a LOT of transfers. Just in my four years there, I'd say half the key players were transfers: Steve Hood, Billy Coles, Fess Irvin, Louis Rowe, Bryan Edwards, Dennis Leonard, Michael Venson...only a handful were home-grown: Kent Culuko, Darren McLinton, Clayton Ritter, Jeff Chambers...

Is there a reason why Brady doesn't go after more transfers? Rules from on high about academics?

I think he learned his lesson from transfers - they are a temporary fix. Bowles was pretty hard headed and so was aj Davis. I think brady said as much in an interview not too long ago.

Although, his homegrown talent has been a mixed bag as well. I guess he likes having a known commodity?