We've been a call or two away for thirty years.

How does one fumble in a spiral?

(11-26-2013 05:36 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 05:18 PM)wildbill4UM Wrote:  I pulled up the replay on ESPN3 and took a video of my computer screen (sorry about the quality).

I must admit, it is a very close call either way you want to see it. One thing that is very clear though: The defender's helmet strikes Lynch's arm in the direction from his right side to his left. If his arm was not going forward before, during, or after the contact: How does the ball fly forward 5+ yards down the field? Remember that by rule: Any intentional forward movement of the HAND or arm starts the forward pass, and when in question, the ball is passed and not fumbled. My common sense (and the laws of physics) tells me: If Lynch is hit in an east to west direction, and the ball travels away from him in a south to north direction, there had to be some forward motion of his hand or arm.

The only excuse for not overturning the call in replay is lack of conclusive video evidence.

Actually, that is about as close a call as you can make, it could have easily gone either way, which does validate this rule:

when in question, the ball is passed and not fumbled.

I am glad I am not a referee having to make that call in real time.

BS Call!
The whole right side of his body is moving forward, including the arm, hand, and ball. The rule does not say anything about the arm and body moving forward relative to the body, which I agree is more in question although the hand does even start forward relative to the body just before he is hit. Maybe, they need to clarify the rule regarding whether the arm/hand forward motion has to be relative to the body or the intended target.
Anyway, I have little doubt that had the uniforms been swapped, it would have been reversed and ruled an incomplete pass.

Even a blind monkey would know that's a pass.

It's as simple as this.

College football is a business. Bad teams playing spoiler against good teams is bad for business under the current BCS system. One loss can completely ruin a big-name team's postseason chances, and cost a lot of money.

When you're the bad team trying to play spoiler, you won't get any advantages. On the other hand, if you can become one of the big-name teams, or one of the good teams (i.e. at least ranked) then you'll start seeing the benefit of some of those calls.

But imagine a BCS championship game of Temple vs. Vanderbilt. Would that make as much money as Alabama vs. Notre Dame?

Do you think they want poorer, less-popular teams playing spoiler to the likes of them? Follow the money.

All refs $uck, all the time.

(11-26-2013 09:18 PM)NJ1 Wrote:  It's as simple as this.

College football is a business. Bad teams playing spoiler against good teams is bad for business under the current BCS system. One loss can completely ruin a big-name team's postseason chances, and cost a lot of money.

When you're the bad team trying to play spoiler, you won't get any advantages. On the other hand, if you can become one of the big-name teams, or one of the good teams (i.e. at least ranked) then you'll start seeing the benefit of some of those calls.

But imagine a BCS championship game of Temple vs. Vanderbilt. Would that make as much money as Alabama vs. Notre Dame?

Do you think they want poorer, less-popular teams playing spoiler to the likes of them? Follow the money.

No AAC refs are just retards. They are definitely the reason that we have lost 2 games this year. If we end up 5-7 at season end, then the university should look into suing the league for lost bowl revenue.