Any thoughts about this other than just calling the author a racist?

Quote:Why is virtually all the immigration in the world only to the white nations? Why are whites the only race that must accept the impoverished third-world masses? Will whites be the only race without a homeland they can call all their own? How is this fair?

Why are all the western nations made to feel guilty if they do not unquestionably open up their borders to other races, while so much of the rest of the world has very restrictive immigration laws with harsh enforcement?

Many people reading this may ask how race/ethnicity makes any difference. Take a look at the world. Why are all the nations with high standards of living populated by people of the european race, the only possible exception being Japan? Why is it that all of the black nations live in poverty and have such high violent crime and rape rates? Not just on the African continent but in the Carribean also.

The USA is the world's great experiment. Within a single generation whites will become a minority. Never before in world history has a mostly white nation transformed into a majority non-white nation. Will the USA still be able to maintain its previous high standards of living and vibrant middle class when most of its population is non-white? Or will it become plagued by third-world like poverty and crime? Multiculturalsim is being put to the test. This will certainly prove whether race in fact matters. The world is watching, waiting to see if the USA can return itself to its former standard of living, or whether things will just continue to deteriorate.

Things did not turn out so well in South Africa after the blacks took power from the white minority. Hopefully the future of the USA will be better.

i honestly cant tell if this author is insanely far right or insanely far left

He's taking a dangerously simplistic look at the issue.

Culture...race. Not easy to distinguish. Regardless, those cultures where people have long time preferences...aka delayed gratification, have more success.

Leftists, by definition, lack that, and welcome others like that to join them. It leads inevitably to disaster.

(11-24-2013 03:26 PM)john01992 Wrote:  i honestly cant tell if this author is insanely far right or insanely far left

Then just go with "insane".

(11-24-2013 05:26 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(11-24-2013 03:26 PM)john01992 Wrote:  i honestly cant tell if this author is insanely far right or insanely far left

Then just go with "insane".

Yeah, Rob. Of the immigrants who come here, how many bring fortunes with them? Most of them are poor and are happy to live in a shithole because it's better than the shithole they came from. How many upscale immigrant neighborhoods can you show us?

(11-24-2013 05:32 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(11-24-2013 05:26 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(11-24-2013 03:26 PM)john01992 Wrote:  i honestly cant tell if this author is insanely far right or insanely far left

Then just go with "insane".

Yeah, Rob. Of the immigrants who come here, how many bring fortunes with them? Most of them are poor and are happy to live in a shithole because it's better than the shithole they came from. How many upscale immigrant neighborhoods can you show us?

To further your point, it's always been like that. My family left Ireland in the 1880's. Can't say Ireland at that time was a great society or I'd likely be born in Ireland in 1981 rather than Pittsburgh.

Well author, I'm sorry that I'm non-white.

This author isn't complaining that more "non-Americans" are having influence, he's complaining that non-white people are here in the first place.

smn, please tell me you didn't get this from Stormfront again.

(11-24-2013 08:30 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Well author, I'm sorry that I'm non-white.

This author isn't complaining that more "non-Americans" are having influence, he's complaining that non-white people are here in the first place.

smn, please tell me you didn't get this from Stormfront again.

I have no idea who wrote it and never heard of Stormfront. It was sent to me by a second generation Mexican-America I used to work with in El Paso who sees the poverty brought about in this country by the poor who come here from other countries, specifically her native Mexico where she still has family.

(11-24-2013 09:09 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(11-24-2013 08:30 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Well author, I'm sorry that I'm non-white.

This author isn't complaining that more "non-Americans" are having influence, he's complaining that non-white people are here in the first place.

smn, please tell me you didn't get this from Stormfront again.

I have no idea who wrote it and never heard of Stormfront. It was sent to me by a second generation Mexican-America I used to work with in El Paso who sees the poverty brought about in this country by the poor who come here from other countries, specifically her native Mexico where she still has family.

Well the author isn't talking about poor people, he's talking about poor, non-white people. Sorry, I'd ask this person to read this again.

(11-24-2013 09:23 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(11-24-2013 09:09 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(11-24-2013 08:30 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Well author, I'm sorry that I'm non-white.

This author isn't complaining that more "non-Americans" are having influence, he's complaining that non-white people are here in the first place.

smn, please tell me you didn't get this from Stormfront again.

I have no idea who wrote it and never heard of Stormfront. It was sent to me by a second generation Mexican-America I used to work with in El Paso who sees the poverty brought about in this country by the poor who come here from other countries, specifically her native Mexico where she still has family.

Well the author isn't talking about poor people, he's talking about poor, non-white people. Sorry, I'd ask this person to read this again.

In El Paso American citizens who are Mexican consider themselves white, but people who aren't citizens are something else. It's an El Paso thing.

(11-24-2013 09:30 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(11-24-2013 09:23 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(11-24-2013 09:09 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(11-24-2013 08:30 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Well author, I'm sorry that I'm non-white.

This author isn't complaining that more "non-Americans" are having influence, he's complaining that non-white people are here in the first place.

smn, please tell me you didn't get this from Stormfront again.

I have no idea who wrote it and never heard of Stormfront. It was sent to me by a second generation Mexican-America I used to work with in El Paso who sees the poverty brought about in this country by the poor who come here from other countries, specifically her native Mexico where she still has family.

Well the author isn't talking about poor people, he's talking about poor, non-white people. Sorry, I'd ask this person to read this again.

In El Paso American citizens who are Mexican consider themselves white, but people who aren't citizens are something else. It's an El Paso thing.

Well I guess that's a luxury. I don't think the author would consider them as such.

Didn't realize that North America was a white nation. Where did all those people of European decent come from?

(11-24-2013 10:40 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Didn't realize that North America was a white nation. Where did all those people of European decent come from?

The writer was even pro-Apartheid.

If you step back and look at the really big picture and ignore the issue of color, it's a legitimate question.

When a society invites unlimited immigration, those immigrants better share the same values as your native population. If they don't, the results could be disastrous.

(11-24-2013 11:16 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  If you step back and look at the really big picture and ignore the issue of color, it's a legitimate question.

When a society invites unlimited immigration, those immigrants better share the same values as your native population. If they don't, the results could be disastrous.

But his entire issue was color. I'm not going beyond what the author intended. I hate harping on this stuff but if you want to discuss your point, we'll need another thread with another OP.

Balance of power in terms of science & wealth shifted between the west and east a few times since the fall of Rome. Some ancient artifacts in China proved that they had mini mills manufacturing steel. Sure it wasn't as advanced as mills today. When Europe was in the dark ages, the Middle East, India, and China were very wealthy nations. It really wasn't until after the Muslims took Constantinople, that forced Europe to look for an alternative trade route to India and China, that Europe really started to regain wealth due to the trade w/ the "New World".

I can't say why Africa really developed civilized culture. For the most part, African tribes were, and some still even are, hunter gatherers. I can understand why the Native Americans were. I guess that the people south and west of Ethiopia never really interacted with Egypt and the Med Coastline nations, at that time. Today their goods, like diamonds, are really being stolen from them. China seems to have a vested interest in somewhat educating some African nations, but I think they have an ulterior motive. I kinda don't understand why Caribbean Nations aren't more developed. They may not have industry, but they do have tangible goods like produce and sugar to sell to the world & perhaps that's just not enough to be a developed nation either.

At the same time I wouldn't compare African & even Caribbean history with African Americans in this nation. There have been plenty of African Americans throughout our history that helped shape the American culture and has invented plenty of things along the way to help develop our nation.

I also think we need to have more of an open mind when allowing immigrants to come here and remember that not every European nation is exactly successful either. Some people, including Muslims, are coming here for freedom, like our ancestors has. America, in general, has had several different cultures that assimilated into a single culture, even though we've had several different geographic cultures and subcultures along the way.

The only group I'm worried about not assimilating into our culture in the near & long term future seems to be Muslims, and I'm basing this theory off of what I see in Europe and places like Detroit.

smh

(11-25-2013 01:12 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Balance of power in terms of science & wealth shifted between the west and east a few times since the fall of Rome. Some ancient artifacts in China proved that they had mini mills manufacturing steel. Sure it wasn't as advanced as mills today. When Europe was in the dark ages, the Middle East, India, and China were very wealthy nations. It really wasn't until after the Muslims took Constantinople, that forced Europe to look for an alternative trade route to India and China, that Europe really started to regain wealth due to the trade w/ the "New World".

I can't say why Africa really developed civilized culture. For the most part, African tribes were, and some still even are, hunter gatherers. I can understand why the Native Americans were. I guess that the people south and west of Ethiopia never really interacted with Egypt and the Med Coastline nations, at that time. Today their goods, like diamonds, are really being stolen from them. China seems to have a vested interest in somewhat educating some African nations, but I think they have an ulterior motive. I kinda don't understand why Caribbean Nations aren't more developed. They may not have industry, but they do have tangible goods like produce and sugar to sell to the world & perhaps that's just not enough to be a developed nation either.

At the same time I wouldn't compare African & even Caribbean history with African Americans in this nation. There have been plenty of African Americans throughout our history that helped shape the American culture and has invented plenty of things along the way to help develop our nation.

I also think we need to have more of an open mind when allowing immigrants to come here and remember that not every European nation is exactly successful either. Some people, including Muslims, are coming here for freedom, like our ancestors has. America, in general, has had several different cultures that assimilated into a single culture, even though we've had several different geographic cultures and subcultures along the way.

The only group I'm worried about not assimilating into our culture in the near & long term future seems to be Muslims, and I'm basing this theory off of what I see in Europe and places like Detroit.

I once had a professor that was an African history buff (economics prof though). He said that it was all about colonialism. European countries came in, parceled the territories, and put people that shouldn't have been together into the same country. The European countries would actively pit them against each other to retain control.

For example, Somalia was a relatively wealthy place into the 1800s, but it was 4 independent countries at the time. Even though they were countries, they were composed of even more "free merchant cities" and not very centralized. England and Italy took them out though. It also happened to other coastal countries.

Going forward I think a group of those countries should step back and realize that they're in the driver's seat regarding their resources.