Quote:The lead investigator continues to cheat the public when it comes to releasing information about shootings that took the lives of 20 children and six women at the Sandy Hook Elementary School last December.

A report on the criminal investigation should have been completed and released to the public long ago. Delay only heightens suspicions that something might have been amiss in the response to the shootings by public safety and criminal justice officials.

Even Gov. Dannel P. Malloy has been complaining, and rightly so, about the foot-dragging of the lead investigator, Danbury State's Attorney Stephen J. Sedensky III.

According to Courant sources, Mr. Sedensky next week will release only a summary of the long-awaited state police report on the horrific shootings. The date for release of the full report, said to run thousands of pages, has apparently not yet been determined.

The investigative summary will be released almost a year after the first-graders and educators were shot to death at their Newtown school. There's no good reason why it has taken this long for the prosecutors and police to prepare the report.

Further, the summary, according to sources, will be heavily redacted — censored, with much detail blacked out.

This grudging, minor concession to the requirements of open government — the people's right to know — is consistent with Mr. Sedensky's and the police's behavior all along.

Mr. Sedensky first said the report would be ready in June, then September, missing that deadline too.

During the past 11 months, state police officials have told audiences at police conventions some of the details of the crime and the background of the shooter, Adam Lanza, that they wouldn't share with the people of Connecticut.

Nor will police authorities and the prosecutors honor requests for 911 calls made from Sandy Hook school, information that is generally made public in this state.

At the behest of prosecutors, a law was negotiated in secret and passed by the legislature at the end of this year's session that puts the clamps on the release of much information covering not just Sandy Hook but all homicides.

Now the investigators tender only a censored summary of their investigative work.

Prosecutors and police have worked cooperatively and sensitively with the families of the Sandy Hook victims.

But they're leaving the public in the dark.

http://www.courant.com/news/opinion/edit...8720.story

(11-19-2013 01:52 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  

That man needs to be locked up in a mental institution. I say it a lot to many people but he is one of those that actually should be.

(11-19-2013 01:55 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(11-19-2013 01:52 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  

That man needs to be locked up in a mental institution. I say it a lot to many people but he is one of those that actually should be.

The article is from the Hartford Courant, an MSM newspaper.

Christie is doing a great job right! We need to get behind him in 2016!

(11-19-2013 02:22 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(11-19-2013 01:55 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(11-19-2013 01:52 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  

That man needs to be locked up in a mental institution. I say it a lot to many people but he is one of those that actually should be.

The article is from the Hartford Courant, an MSM newspaper.

So? Fox News puts conspiracy theories on their website and on tv and it too is a MSM source. Doesn't mean the writer or Everclear who believe this crap aren't in need of mental help.

In the spirit of GTS, I am bumping this and annointing it the official Sandy Hook thread. Report due this afternoon on the Sandy Hook shooting investigation. Will be interesting to see if they give us anything new or answer any questions being asked by skeptics of the official narrative.

Mr. Peanut got banned?

What'd he do?

(11-25-2013 11:32 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Mr. Peanut got banned?

What'd he do?

yea, wondered that too. Maybe it was in one of the sports forums. (?)

No questions answered, there is a shocker.

I do not see a single thing in this report that backs up the official conclusion that Lanza did this crime.

Eyewitnesses who could ID the shooter as Lanza? No.

Gun Shot Residue evidence collected from his hands and clothing? No.

His fingerprints on anything at all? No.

Hell, they can't even match the rifle to the over 150 slugs gathered as evidence

And this looks like a staged scene:



hotnewsinternational.com/2013/11/25/chilling-photos-show-the-inside-of-sandy-hook-shooter-adam-lanzas-home

Any of you guys ever seen "Rampage?" It's on Netflix. Guy shoots up an entire town while decked out in titanium plates, calls his friend to meet him in the woods for paintball, friend gets dressed up in the proper gear (matches the shooter) and his buddy shows up for paintball and shoots him under the chin, making it look like suicide. He makes it back home safe and sound, and the police all think the shooter went to the woods and killed himself.

(11-26-2013 01:08 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  I do not see a single thing in this report that backs up the official conclusion that Lanza did this crime.

Eyewitnesses who could ID the shooter as Lanza? No.

Gun Shot Residue evidence collected from his hands and clothing? No.

His fingerprints on anything at all? No.

Hell, they can't even match the rifle to the over 150 slugs gathered as evidence

And this looks like a staged scene:



hotnewsinternational.com/2013/11/25/chilling-photos-show-the-inside-of-sandy-hook-shooter-adam-lanzas-home

And what exactly is your expertise on whether or not a scene is staged?

And I was wrong, there was a change from the official narrative.

The initial report said that Lanza shot and killed himself at 9:46. Today's has him killing himself 6 minutes earlier at 9:40.

An article yesterday had the first officer arriving at 9:37:30 and waiting for the others to arrive.

Their timeline is off from what was last reported. Maybe the coverup is simply burying a potential story where the cops were on scene eating donuts while Lanza (or whoever the shooter was) was shooting people for 9 minutes.

No wonder they don’t want to release the 911 calls.

(11-26-2013 01:08 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  I do not see a single thing in this report that backs up the official conclusion that Lanza did this crime.

Eyewitnesses who could ID the shooter as Lanza? No.

Gun Shot Residue evidence collected from his hands and clothing? No.

His fingerprints on anything at all? No.

Hell, they can't even match the rifle to the over 150 slugs gathered as evidence

And this looks like a staged scene:



hotnewsinternational.com/2013/11/25/chilling-photos-show-the-inside-of-sandy-hook-shooter-adam-lanzas-home

Yeah, that PDF mentions none of the above. Really strange.

Sandy Hook spurs states' mental health push

Coming soon to a state near you: further stripping of constitutional rights. Dems will package it as gun control. Republicans will package it as mental health safety, but in the end, the result is more power of the government over the people. Sandy Hook has served its purpose.

Quote:In the anguished days following the mass shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School, President Barack Obama called for a renewed national focus on mental health.

His plea went nowhere in Congress. But states from South Carolina to Oregon have taken up the challenge.

At least 37 states have increased spending on mental health in the year since Adam Lanza shot dead 20 children, six school employees and his mother in Newtown, Conn. It’s not just about money, either. States are experimenting with new — and sometimes controversial — ways to raise awareness about psychological distress, to make treatment more accessible for children and adults and to keep firearms away from those struggling with mental illness.

(PHOTOS: Connecticut school shooting)

Nevada, for instance, is launching a pilot program to screen children in secondary schools for mental health concerns. Texas not only boosted mental health funding by a record $300 million over two years, but required public school teachers and students to be trained in recognizing mental illness. Utah will require school districts to offer parents an annual seminar on mental health, including depression and suicide. Colorado established a 24-hour crisis hotline.

The new initiatives don’t make up for the more than $4 billion cut from state mental health budgets during the lean years of the recent recession. And they weren’t universal: A half-dozen states cut funding on mental health this year, including Louisiana, Maine and North Carolina.

But overall, advocates say they are thrilled at the breadth and depth of the commitments from lawmakers of both parties.

(PHOTOS: Obama visits Sandy Hook memorial service)

“Sandy Hook, horrible as it was, provided the impetus for state legislatures to take mental health seriously,” said Sita Diehl, director of state policy and advocacy for the National Alliance on Mental Illness, which recently released a comprehensive report on state actions.

The most contentious measures are laws passed in more than a dozen states that require some reporting of mental health status as part of background checks for firearms purchases.

The statutes vary considerably by state. Connecticut enacted the toughest restrictions. It blocks individuals who have voluntarily admitted themselves to psychiatric hospitals from obtaining a gun permit for six months after the admission. Maryland took similar steps: The state bars firearms possession for anyone who has been involuntarily committed or has stayed more than 30 consecutive days under a voluntary admission. (Those affected can petition for exemptions.)

And New York now requires mental health professionals to report to authorities any patient they believe is likely to cause serious harm to himself or others. Law enforcement can then seize any firearms the patient owns, suspend any gun license he holds and block him from obtaining a license in the future.

(Also on POLITICO: Chilling new details from Sandy Hook)

Such measures have raised concerns among psychiatrists and psychologists who worry that patients will shy away from treatment or be reluctant to trust therapists.

There’s another concern as well: “To put this into legislation now really creates a misperception, a nonfactual link, that people with mental health conditions are more likely to commit violent crimes,” said Daniela Giordano, public policy director for NAMI Connecticut.

Lanza, who was 20 when he shot his way into Sandy Hook, had been diagnosed with Asperger syndrome as a teenager. A report released last Monday by Connecticut State’s attorney Stephen Sedensky III noted that he had “significant social impairments and extreme anxiety,” and that “he lacked empathy and had very rigid thought processes.” Clinicians recommended medication and behavioral therapy, but Lanza refused both.

The report makes clear though, that none of the mental health professionals who saw Lanza ever thought he could commit such violence. Neither, apparently, did his mother, who worried about his increasingly eccentric behavior and self-imposed isolation — but wrote him a check shortly before his rampage so he could buy himself a pistol for Christmas, the report said.

(Earlier on POLITICO: Demolition proceeds at Sandy Hook)

Given the difficulty in identifying which patients may turn violent — and the vast number of patients who never pose a threat — NAMI urges states to focus on expanding access to treatment rather than on restricting gun purchases for people who voluntarily seek help, Diehl said.

Connecticut has done both. In addition to the gun control package, the state hiked funding for community treatment teams that fan out seeking people who need help. The teams include peer counselors who have suffered mental illness themselves and can offer very personal advice. The state also passed a law requiring teachers to receive training on children’s social and emotional development.

Perhaps the most innovative approach comes from Minnesota, where the Legislature appropriated an extra $17.2 million in funding over two years for a fledgling network of clinics that provide mental health treatment for children — even children without insurance — right at their schools. The clinicians provide treatment during or after the school day, which saves parents from having to take time off work and find transportation to therapists’ offices. They also collaborate with teachers to address behavioral issues in the classroom.

These are the most disturbing parts:

Quote:Nevada, for instance, is launching a pilot program to screen children in secondary schools for mental health concerns.

Quote:Texas not only boosted mental health funding by a record $300 million over two years, but required public school teachers and students to be trained in recognizing mental illness.

Quote:And New York now requires mental health professionals to report to authorities any patient they believe is likely to cause serious harm to himself or others. Law enforcement can then seize any firearms the patient owns, suspend any gun license he holds and block him from obtaining a license in the future.

Quote:Lanza, who was 20 when he shot his way into Sandy Hook, had been diagnosed with Asperger syndrome as a teenager. A report released last Monday by Connecticut State’s attorney Stephen Sedensky III noted that he had “significant social impairments and extreme anxiety,” and that “he lacked empathy and had very rigid thought processes.” Clinicians recommended medication and behavioral therapy, but Lanza refused both.

Quote:Perhaps the most innovative approach comes from Minnesota, where the Legislature appropriated an extra $17.2 million in funding over two years for a fledgling network of clinics that provide mental health treatment for children — even children without insurance — right at their schools. The clinicians provide treatment during or after the school day, which saves parents from having to take time off work and find transportation to therapists’ offices. They also collaborate with teachers to address behavioral issues in the classroom.

(12-04-2013 08:48 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  These are the most disturbing parts:

Quote:Nevada, for instance, is launching a pilot program to screen children in secondary schools for mental health concerns.

Quote:Texas not only boosted mental health funding by a record $300 million over two years, but required public school teachers and students to be trained in recognizing mental illness.

Quote:And New York now requires mental health professionals to report to authorities any patient they believe is likely to cause serious harm to himself or others. Law enforcement can then seize any firearms the patient owns, suspend any gun license he holds and block him from obtaining a license in the future.

Quote:Lanza, who was 20 when he shot his way into Sandy Hook, had been diagnosed with Asperger syndrome as a teenager. A report released last Monday by Connecticut State’s attorney Stephen Sedensky III noted that he had “significant social impairments and extreme anxiety,” and that “he lacked empathy and had very rigid thought processes.” Clinicians recommended medication and behavioral therapy, but Lanza refused both.

Quote:Perhaps the most innovative approach comes from Minnesota, where the Legislature appropriated an extra $17.2 million in funding over two years for a fledgling network of clinics that provide mental health treatment for children — even children without insurance — right at their schools. The clinicians provide treatment during or after the school day, which saves parents from having to take time off work and find transportation to therapists’ offices. They also collaborate with teachers to address behavioral issues in the classroom.

I'm curious, why does your last quote disturb you so much. I'm sure the parents would have to approve any mental health treatment. There are big problems in schools with kids that have issues that can be very disruptive. Often times it's a kid that comes from a home with big issues and is also poor.

If we're going to force schools to have kids with big problems present, mental health services could/may help. Nobody really knows for sure how much or how little the help may bear fruit.

It is a slippery slope. I don't believe parents will retain the right to approve or disapprove.

Quote:Clinicians recommended medication and behavioral therapy, but Lanza refused both.

If you think this is a right that they aren't looking to take away, you are naive. A government funded shrink providing treatment at government schools... what could possibly go wrong?

And 99% of behavioral problems don't require medicine or psychological treatment. They require a father and a kick in the @ss.

I guarantee you this is going to turn into a witch hunt for the PTAs, soccer moms, and people who generally have too much time on their hands. Socially awkward, and aggressive (masculine) kids are going to labeled and it will follow them for life.

(11-19-2013 02:24 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Christie is doing a great job right! We need to get behind him in 2016!

No one should get behind a man that large. The gas coming from his back side must be terrible.