(11-17-2013 05:45 PM)JMUDUKE9 Wrote:  

(11-17-2013 05:20 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  I will throw a name out there also. Greg Schiano.

That has crossed my mind as well, considering he shares the Rutgers connection with Alger. I wonder how his contract is worded with the Bucs regarding his salary should he take a college job after being fired.

I have to disagree with you guys (respectfully). There is a 0% chance that Schiano is going to go from a nationally ranked Rutgers team, to the NFL, to an FCS school in Harrisonburg, Virginia.

(11-17-2013 08:31 PM)TheDudeWithTheJMUTat Wrote:  

(11-17-2013 05:45 PM)JMUDUKE9 Wrote:  

(11-17-2013 05:20 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  I will throw a name out there also. Greg Schiano.

That has crossed my mind as well, considering he shares the Rutgers connection with Alger. I wonder how his contract is worded with the Bucs regarding his salary should he take a college job after being fired.

I have to disagree with you guys (respectfully). There is a 0% chance that Schiano is going to go from a nationally ranked Rutgers team, to the NFL, to an FCS school in Harrisonburg, Virginia.

Yep. Agree.

Agree. He could have a ton of college jobs if he went down that path. Also, Tampa Bay is looking a bit better these days!

(11-17-2013 08:31 PM)TheDudeWithTheJMUTat Wrote:  

(11-17-2013 05:45 PM)JMUDUKE9 Wrote:  

(11-17-2013 05:20 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  I will throw a name out there also. Greg Schiano.

That has crossed my mind as well, considering he shares the Rutgers connection with Alger. I wonder how his contract is worded with the Bucs regarding his salary should he take a college job after being fired.

I have to disagree with you guys (respectfully). There is a 0% chance that Schiano is going to go from a nationally ranked Rutgers team, to the NFL, to an FCS school in Harrisonburg, Virginia.

Agree x4. People need to quit bringing up coaches like Orgeron and Schiano whom JMU has ZERO chance of getting. Let's keep it to at least somewhat realistic options.

I'll throw a name out there, Lincoln Riley, the OC at ECU. Young, good offensive mind.

(11-17-2013 09:02 PM)JMUDukes1750 Wrote:  I'll throw a name out there, Lincoln Riley, the OC at ECU. Young, good offensive mind.

Don't think JMU is going to hire a 29 (or 30 next yr) old as it's next HC...

(11-17-2013 08:48 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(11-17-2013 08:31 PM)TheDudeWithTheJMUTat Wrote:  

(11-17-2013 05:45 PM)JMUDUKE9 Wrote:  

(11-17-2013 05:20 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  I will throw a name out there also. Greg Schiano.

That has crossed my mind as well, considering he shares the Rutgers connection with Alger. I wonder how his contract is worded with the Bucs regarding his salary should he take a college job after being fired.

I have to disagree with you guys (respectfully). There is a 0% chance that Schiano is going to go from a nationally ranked Rutgers team, to the NFL, to an FCS school in Harrisonburg, Virginia.

Agree x4. People need to quit bringing up coaches like Orgeron and Schiano whom JMU has ZERO chance of getting. Let's keep it to at least somewhat realistic options.

Yeah but people like to play fantasy. The guys who JMU has a realistic shot of getting are guys the vast majority of us have never heard of. It's the same thing when Brady was on the hot seat...people kept throwing around Bruce Pearl Unless Pearl had a different co-ed lined up for his use every day of the year, he wasn't ever setting foot in Harrisonburg.

I'm sure our new coach will be subject to the usual biatchfest that goes on around here. The only way we make a solid splash with a coach is IF we announce FBS, and even then most already established guys won't want to take on the two year transition period...realistically though, I wonder what that WKU guy who they totally ditched for Petrino is doing now.

Willie Taggart - now head coach at South Florida. Rather than Petrino pushing him aside, I believe USF hired him away after 2-10, 7-5, and 7-5 teams at WKU in 2010-12. Curiously, USF, which plays in the Bucs' stadium, enjoyed two straight 9-4 and two straight 8-5 seasons under Jim Leavitt, who started the program; followed by an 8-5 under Skip Holtz after Leavitt's firing, then 5-7 and 3-9.

In fact under Leavitt, USF seemed so "up and coming" that they actually made it to #2 in a weekly poll in 2007 before losing to Rutgers, UConn, and Cincy in successive weeks. Under Taggart the slide continues, as they're 2-7 this year, including a 53-21 opening day loss to McNeese State. Assume this season is the doppelganger for Holtz's first one though, but I guess he could be available and at age 37 might be a good long-term hire.

(11-17-2013 09:06 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(11-17-2013 08:48 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(11-17-2013 08:31 PM)TheDudeWithTheJMUTat Wrote:  

(11-17-2013 05:45 PM)JMUDUKE9 Wrote:  

(11-17-2013 05:20 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  I will throw a name out there also. Greg Schiano.

That has crossed my mind as well, considering he shares the Rutgers connection with Alger. I wonder how his contract is worded with the Bucs regarding his salary should he take a college job after being fired.

I have to disagree with you guys (respectfully). There is a 0% chance that Schiano is going to go from a nationally ranked Rutgers team, to the NFL, to an FCS school in Harrisonburg, Virginia.

Agree x4. People need to quit bringing up coaches like Orgeron and Schiano whom JMU has ZERO chance of getting. Let's keep it to at least somewhat realistic options.

Yeah but people like to play fantasy. The guys who JMU has a realistic shot of getting are guys the vast majority of us have never heard of. It's the same thing when Brady was on the hot seat...people kept throwing around Bruce Pearl Unless Pearl had a different co-ed lined up for his use every day of the year, he wasn't ever setting foot in Harrisonburg.

I'm sure our new coach will be subject to the usual biatchfest that goes on around here. The only way we make a solid splash with a coach is IF we announce FBS, and even then most already established guys won't want to take on the two year transition period...realistically though, I wonder what that WKU guy who they totally ditched for Petrino is doing now.

(11-17-2013 09:06 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(11-17-2013 08:48 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(11-17-2013 08:31 PM)TheDudeWithTheJMUTat Wrote:  

(11-17-2013 05:45 PM)JMUDUKE9 Wrote:  

(11-17-2013 05:20 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  I will throw a name out there also. Greg Schiano.

That has crossed my mind as well, considering he shares the Rutgers connection with Alger. I wonder how his contract is worded with the Bucs regarding his salary should he take a college job after being fired.

I have to disagree with you guys (respectfully). There is a 0% chance that Schiano is going to go from a nationally ranked Rutgers team, to the NFL, to an FCS school in Harrisonburg, Virginia.

Agree x4. People need to quit bringing up coaches like Orgeron and Schiano whom JMU has ZERO chance of getting. Let's keep it to at least somewhat realistic options.

Yeah but people like to play fantasy. The guys who JMU has a realistic shot of getting are guys the vast majority of us have never heard of. It's the same thing when Brady was on the hot seat...people kept throwing around Bruce Pearl Unless Pearl had a different co-ed lined up for his use every day of the year, he wasn't ever setting foot in Harrisonburg.

I'm sure our new coach will be subject to the usual biatchfest that goes on around here. The only way we make a solid splash with a coach is IF we announce FBS, and even then most already established guys won't want to take on the two year transition period...realistically though, I wonder what that WKU guy who they totally ditched for Petrino is doing now.

OK, how about Nick Saban?

Just my opinion - this wouldn't be the time for a "splash" hiring. I think that would be more appropriate for an established, but down on its luck, FBS program - sort of like our Lefty hiring.

Assuming we move to FBS, I hope we look for a young-ish, proven FCS head coach or possibly an experienced, proven FBS coordinator. We need to find someone who can guide the program through what could be a fairly rough first few years but still build some excitement for where the program is headed.

2 years before he became HC:
08' was 0-11
09' was 2-9.

4 seasons as HC:
10' 1-10
11' 2-9
12' 5-6 (most wins school history)
13' 4-6 so far

Worst facilities in the NEC (and that is saying something) and I believe only give 34 schollies even though NEC allows 40 this yr.

91' HS grad, so probably about 40 yrs old. From PA. Distinguished NFL career.
http://www.sfuathletics.com/coaches.aspx?rc=287

Posted this over on the game thread:

(11-17-2013 08:53 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Fordham HC Joe Moorhead. Graduated FU 96', so that would make him around 39-40. Course another coach, like McDonnell at UNH, who is at his alma mater, and may not want to leave..

FU went 1-10 in 2011. Last season, in Moorhead's 1st season, they went 6-5. In his 2nd season after yesterday's 1st loss of season, now 10-1.
http://www.fordhamsports.com/coaches.asp...h=football

Assuming they win next week at Colgate to finish 11-1, will be a playoff at large since are ineligible for Patriot title. Wins over Villanova and Temple.

I could see the jokes now: Moorhead vs Laycock..

Also posted on SBU game thread:

(11-16-2013 11:52 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  http://eiupanthers.com/staff.aspx?staff=181

http://www.vucommodores.com/sports/m-foo...91600.html

http://www.virginiasports.com/sports/m-f...hip00.html

Not saying they're who we'll get, but they would jump at JMU if FBS.

(11-17-2013 09:52 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  2 years before he became HC:
08' was 0-11
09' was 2-9.

4 seasons as HC:
10' 1-10
11' 2-9
12' 5-6 (most wins school history)
13' 4-6 so far

Worst facilities in the NEC (and that is saying something) and I believe only give 34 schollies even though NEC allows 40 this yr.

91' HS grad, so probably about 40 yrs old. From PA. Distinguished NFL career.
http://www.sfuathletics.com/coaches.aspx?rc=287

Rather have Old Dirty's OC, Brian Scott, or QB Coach/Recruiting Coordinator, Ron Whitcomb or the OC at ECU, Lincoln Riley. We need to go young and be willing to not have a good record for the 1st couple of years. Riley intrigues me because of how good Kliff Kingsbury has been.

What about John Defilippo? JMU grad. NFL experience and he was the O-coordinator at San Jose St in 2011.. It would be a Villa 7 or Shaka Smart type hire... It would be nice to catch an up and comer with ties to the school on the rise even if he only stayed a few years... Also his Dad was the AD at BC when they moved to the ACC. Never hurts to have those kinds of ties either.. Could help JMU down the road.

I like the DeFillippo pick as well. Young offensive mind and hardly any ties to the current regime.....

This will be a pivotal hire. Almost exactly the same as the post-lefty hire.

We can't afford to bet the farm on a young alum who is unproven....

I think we need someone with HC experience. Someone with energy, who can really recruit. Dino Babers hits on all of those points.

Should Mick be fired? YES! Will that happen? TBD... That's my only concern, what will the admin due and how will FBS affect their decision?

(11-17-2013 10:49 PM)JMU1987UVA1998 Wrote:  

(11-17-2013 09:52 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  2 years before he became HC:
08' was 0-11
09' was 2-9.

4 seasons as HC:
10' 1-10
11' 2-9
12' 5-6 (most wins school history)
13' 4-6 so far

Worst facilities in the NEC (and that is saying something) and I believe only give 34 schollies even though NEC allows 40 this yr.

91' HS grad, so probably about 40 yrs old. From PA. Distinguished NFL career.
http://www.sfuathletics.com/coaches.aspx?rc=287

Rather have Old Dirty's OC, Brian Scott, or QB Coach/Recruiting Coordinator, Ron Whitcomb or the OC at ECU, Lincoln Riley. We need to go young and be willing to not have a good record for the 1st couple of years. Riley intrigues me because of how good Kliff Kingsbury has been.

No one, including myself, has mentioned any DCs. With the exception of Barlow & Chip West, mostly OCs, offensive coaches, HCs that we're offensive coaches. Don't want to end up like Offense, Defense Unecessary.

Would in their 40s still be considered young? I was figuring 30-40's would be considered young, 50s-60s old. After all, isn't 40 now the new 30 or something like that anyway?

the only thing on this hire i'm praying for is that we don't go cheap.

you can't bring in a legitimate FBS coach on 300,000 a year. If you are going to do it and do it right, you need to pay market value for G5 coaches.