Do any of yall believe Miles could be in the hot seat, or a little warm, if LSU loses to TAMU and another bowl game drop at the last minute? I know he's a great coach, or has done great with LSU in the past, but for the past couple of seasons, he seems to have let off the gas which is inexcuseable for a team with LSU's caliber.

From someone who lived in LA for five years:

Les Miles is the most accomplished HC in the history of the program. He shouldn't be fired.

The problem in LSU right now is that you have an entitled fanbase that is holding the program to downright ludicrous standards. Furthermore, there are some stadium-related issues at LSU right now regarding attendance (not paid attendance, but rather the number of no-shows at games this year). Empty seats could force the administration's hand right now - and that really isn't fair since a lot of the attendance and fan interest issues have NOTHING to do with the coaching staff at LSU.

No. He is really one of the best coaches the program has ever had. That, and he's always had great seasons and he has taken LSU to the NC twice.

You all are up there year in year out. You unfortunately have Saban in your division. Who knows, maybe he will be in Austin next year. Johhny Football and the Aggie coach may very well be gone too. I think I would keep Miles.

I think he does better when he chews St. Augustine instead of fescue. Aside from that Les is fine. Saban won't be around forever and his methods of garnering recruits will never come under NCAA scrutiny because of the level of state involvement.

L.S.U.'s issues revolve around the same issue every year, except this year. Every year the fortunes of the Tigers ride the arm of their quarterback. In the SEC if you aren't balanced you can't beat the top schools. This year the quarterback is good enough, but L.S.U. is not as talented at linebacker and in the secondary as they usually are. That is why they lost to both Georgia and Alabama. The slant and the middle zone button hook has been wide open all season. If Auburn had a more precise passer we would have been a greater threat in Baton Rouge this year. Our receivers were open but a still developing Marshall couldn't consistently hit them.

I expect next year's Bengal Tigers to be stronger in both the linebacking and secondary corps. They're fine. Don't blame Les.

What you witnessed in the Bama game was a true momentum shift with the fake punt and Alabama's superior depth in the 4th quarter.

(11-11-2013 04:23 PM)Big Frog II Wrote:  You all are up there year in year out. You unfortunately have Saban in your division. Who knows, maybe he will be in Austin next year. Johhny Football and the Aggie coach may very well be gone too. I think I would keep Miles.

You can just hear the hope and fear in the B12 fan's voices....

Are You Serious ? Miles is a fantastic coach. Not every school can Win every Year. 'Bama has had great recruiting classes and had the advantage of pre-season # 1 rankings. That won't always happen. LSU will be fine and have many winning seasons. Just remember Nobody stays on top forever. Another Coach won't change that.

Who would even be in the same league as Les Miles as a replacement? This isn't six years ago where an SEC team could hire away any coach they wanted to. But even then how stupid are all of the Texas fans who were calling for Mack Brown's head earlier in the year? Texas is undefeated in conference play right now and is a few games from potentially going to a BCS bowl.

The SEC is the strongest conference in football. You can't expect to win it every year unless your literally getting the best recruits in the nation like Alabama or lucking up and getting those once in a decade Heisman players like Manziel or Cam Newton.

In my opinion the only programs that should seriously expect to win 10-12 games a year unless they are handicapped are Alabama, USC, Ohio State, and Texas. That's because the name of these schools alone is always going to recruit 5 star talent.

Not this year, but could be a slow boil starting. There is a large contingency of LSU fans that never bought into Miles...still believe he is working off of Saban equity. The bigger issue that Miles has to battle right now is losing top flight in-state talent to Alabama. I personally believe Miles is a better recruiter than a game day coach, and if he ultimately loses that edge in his own backyard it could be big trouble for him.

Miles just needs to develop an QB capable of carrying LSU. Those vaunted SEC defenses crumbled under the BIG 12 aerial attacks piloted by capable pilots.

(11-11-2013 07:00 PM)LSUtah Wrote:  Not this year, but could be a slow boil starting. There is a large contingency of LSU fans that never bought into Miles...still believe he is working off of Saban equity.

I'm not an LSU fan but have lived in BR for a long while now and thus follow the program closely by osmosis. I have believed all along that Miles has always worked off Saban's equity. He is by no means a bad coach but he's not as good as his record indicates because of what he inherited.

LSU really should build a statue to Saban. Before him, LSU football's 100-year history could be summed up by a few words: Billy Cannon's Heisman-clinching punt return vs ole miss in 59, the Chinese bandits national champs of 58, and a couple more really good years at the turn of the 60s. Just about everything they accomplished nationally happened between 1958 - 1962. But it was Saban who made LSU the permanent powerhouse its entitled fans always thought it should be.

One of the reasons he was able to do it was he built a recruiting wall around the state, which is arguably the most fertile football grounds in the country on a per-capita basis. No more would top talents like Peyton Manning and Warrick Dunn and Marshall Faulk leave the state for other schools. Ironically, at Alabama he has succeeded in punching significant holes in that wall.

(11-11-2013 04:33 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I think he does better when he chews St. Augustine instead of fescue. Aside from that Les is fine. Saban won't be around forever and his methods of garnering recruits will never come under NCAA scrutiny because of the level of state involvement.

L.S.U.'s issues revolve around the same issue every year, except this year. Every year the fortunes of the Tigers ride the arm of their quarterback. In the SEC if you aren't balanced you can't beat the top schools. This year the quarterback is good enough, but L.S.U. is not as talented at linebacker and in the secondary as they usually are. That is why they lost to both Georgia and Alabama. The slant and the middle zone button hook has been wide open all season. If Auburn had a more precise passer we would have been a greater threat in Baton Rouge this year. Our receivers were open but a still developing Marshall couldn't consistently hit them.

I expect next year's Bengal Tigers to be stronger in both the linebacking and secondary corps. They're fine. Don't blame Les.

What you witnessed in the Bama game was a true momentum shift with the fake punt and Alabama's superior depth in the 4th quarter.

To boil it down ....LSU lost too many defensive starters....and their replacements are as a whole too young....

(11-11-2013 07:02 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Miles just needs to develop an QB capable of carrying LSU. Those vaunted SEC defenses crumbled under the BIG 12 aerial attacks piloted by capable pilots.

When did this happen? Oklahoma State vs Texas A&M? Ole Miss vs Texas Tech a few years ago? Texas vs Alabama? Texas vs Ole Miss this year? T.C.U. vs L.S.U.? or were you referring to Oklahoma State's victory over Mississippi State who has no offense and held the Cowboys at bay fairly well for 3 1/2 quarters?

(11-11-2013 08:07 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-11-2013 07:02 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Miles just needs to develop an QB capable of carrying LSU. Those vaunted SEC defenses crumbled under the BIG 12 aerial attacks piloted by capable pilots.

When did this happen? Oklahoma State vs Texas A&M? Ole Miss vs Texas Tech a few years ago? Texas vs Alabama? Texas vs Ole Miss this year? T.C.U. vs L.S.U.? or were you referring to Oklahoma State's victory over Mississippi State who has no offense and held the Cowboys at bay fairly well for 3 1/2 quarters?

Wow!

I didn't even see that comment.

To put it nicely, that's pretty damn dumb.

Still, Miles is one of the 5 finest coaches in college football.

(11-11-2013 07:22 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-11-2013 07:00 PM)LSUtah Wrote:  Not this year, but could be a slow boil starting. There is a large contingency of LSU fans that never bought into Miles...still believe he is working off of Saban equity.

I'm not an LSU fan but have lived in BR for a long while now and thus follow the program closely by osmosis. I have believed all along that Miles has always worked off Saban's equity. He is by no means a bad coach but he's not as good as his record indicates because of what he inherited.

LSU really should build a statue to Saban. Before him, LSU football's 100-year history could be summed up by a few words: Billy Cannon's Heisman-clinching punt return vs ole miss in 59, the Chinese bandits national champs of 58, and a couple more really good years at the turn of the 60s. Just about everything they accomplished nationally happened between 1958 - 1962. But it was Saban who made LSU the permanent powerhouse its entitled fans always thought it should be.

One of the reasons he was able to do it was he built a recruiting wall around the state, which is arguably the most fertile football grounds in the country on a per-capita basis. No more would top talents like Peyton Manning and Warrick Dunn and Marshall Faulk leave the state for other schools. Ironically, at Alabama he has succeeded in punching significant holes in that wall.

Another long time (30+ years) Baton Rouge resident and non-LSU fan (and law school alumnus) here.

I agree with everything Quo wrote above.

Miles is a bizarre, goofy guy. He makes poor block management decisions.

He seems a bit lost sometimes. His press conferences are epic in their strangeness.

But, he has won, big. He has won, on my opinion, with elite recruiting .

The bloom may be coming off that rose. LSU is losing some big time in state recruiting battles lately.

LSU now sits in the SEC West like Germany in World War I, with Russia (Alabama) to the east and France (A&M) to the west.

If the Tigers can't win the SEC West, they will look at a lot of Cap One or Corton Bowls in their future.

(11-11-2013 08:10 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(11-11-2013 07:22 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-11-2013 07:00 PM)LSUtah Wrote:  Not this year, but could be a slow boil starting. There is a large contingency of LSU fans that never bought into Miles...still believe he is working off of Saban equity.

I'm not an LSU fan but have lived in BR for a long while now and thus follow the program closely by osmosis. I have believed all along that Miles has always worked off Saban's equity. He is by no means a bad coach but he's not as good as his record indicates because of what he inherited.

LSU really should build a statue to Saban. Before him, LSU football's 100-year history could be summed up by a few words: Billy Cannon's Heisman-clinching punt return vs ole miss in 59, the Chinese bandits national champs of 58, and a couple more really good years at the turn of the 60s. Just about everything they accomplished nationally happened between 1958 - 1962. But it was Saban who made LSU the permanent powerhouse its entitled fans always thought it should be.

One of the reasons he was able to do it was he built a recruiting wall around the state, which is arguably the most fertile football grounds in the country on a per-capita basis. No more would top talents like Peyton Manning and Warrick Dunn and Marshall Faulk leave the state for other schools. Ironically, at Alabama he has succeeded in punching significant holes in that wall.

Another long time (30+ years) Baton Rouge resident and non-LSU fan (and law school alumnus) here.

I agree with everything Quo wrote above.

Miles is a bizarre, goofy guy. He makes poor block management decisions.

He seems a bit lost sometimes. His press conferences are epic in their strangeness.

But, he has won, big. He has won, on my opinion, with elite recruiting .

The bloom may be coming off that rose. LSU is losing some big time in state recruiting battles lately.

LSU now sits in the SEC West like Germany in World War I, with Russia (Alabama) to the east and France (A&M) to the west.

If the Tigers can't win the SEC West, they will look at a lot of Cap One or Corton Bowls in their future.

So who is Arch Duke Ferdinand in this analogy and which team plays the part of Turkey?

(11-11-2013 08:13 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-11-2013 08:10 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(11-11-2013 07:22 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-11-2013 07:00 PM)LSUtah Wrote:  Not this year, but could be a slow boil starting. There is a large contingency of LSU fans that never bought into Miles...still believe he is working off of Saban equity.

I'm not an LSU fan but have lived in BR for a long while now and thus follow the program closely by osmosis. I have believed all along that Miles has always worked off Saban's equity. He is by no means a bad coach but he's not as good as his record indicates because of what he inherited.

LSU really should build a statue to Saban. Before him, LSU football's 100-year history could be summed up by a few words: Billy Cannon's Heisman-clinching punt return vs ole miss in 59, the Chinese bandits national champs of 58, and a couple more really good years at the turn of the 60s. Just about everything they accomplished nationally happened between 1958 - 1962. But it was Saban who made LSU the permanent powerhouse its entitled fans always thought it should be.

One of the reasons he was able to do it was he built a recruiting wall around the state, which is arguably the most fertile football grounds in the country on a per-capita basis. No more would top talents like Peyton Manning and Warrick Dunn and Marshall Faulk leave the state for other schools. Ironically, at Alabama he has succeeded in punching significant holes in that wall.

Another long time (30+ years) Baton Rouge resident and non-LSU fan (and law school alumnus) here.

I agree with everything Quo wrote above.

Miles is a bizarre, goofy guy. He makes poor block management decisions.

He seems a bit lost sometimes. His press conferences are epic in their strangeness.

But, he has won, big. He has won, on my opinion, with elite recruiting .

The bloom may be coming off that rose. LSU is losing some big time in state recruiting battles lately.

LSU now sits in the SEC West like Germany in World War I, with Russia (Alabama) to the east and France (A&M) to the west.

If the Tigers can't win the SEC West, they will look at a lot of Cap One or Corton Bowls in their future.

So who is Arch Duke Ferdinand in this analogy and which team plays the part of Turkey?

Please let it be Bret and Turkey is MSU.

No, if he was let go it would be a terrible statement.

What LSU fans should do is wait till after January.