(11-06-2013 06:45 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  I wonder where they'll all end up when the ocean levels rise due to all the global warming.

Are you hoping West Virginia becomes beach front property? haha

Id love them to take Virginia and North Carolina.

It would be even be better if they expanded all the way to 20.

(11-06-2013 07:08 PM)SergiofromFresno Wrote:  Id love them to take Virginia and North Carolina.

It would be even be better if they expanded all the way to 20.

I'd hate it. Already dislike the fact, they are turning this Midwestern conference into a northern one. Let's at least keep some regional identity. Otherwise what's the point in rooting for Big Ten teams out of conference.

(11-06-2013 07:17 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  

(11-06-2013 07:08 PM)SergiofromFresno Wrote:  Id love them to take Virginia and North Carolina.

It would be even be better if they expanded all the way to 20.

I'd hate it. Already dislike the fact, they are turning this Midwestern conference into a northern one. Let's at least keep some regional identity. Otherwise what's the point in rooting for Big Ten teams out of conference.

I'd hate it too, but UNC would never be interested. We (alums, fans, etc) wanna be in the same conference as the remaining members of the "original 8". I admit that I will miss Maryland, but I've been wanting Louisville to join for a long time. Now that the ACC is the unquestioned #1 basketball conference, even more reason to be happy. But good luck B10 with adding more mediocre teams with big TV markets.

(11-06-2013 07:28 PM)Hashtag Wrote:  Now that the ACC is the unquestioned #1 basketball conference, even more reason to be happy.

We'll see about that for this year at least

It's always entertaining to watch Delany playing everyone like he does. Folks actually making predictions based directly from his spoken words.

Anyone whom has studied his statements could tell you that you never based your theories directly from his words. He will Never tell you exactly what the Big Ten is doing.

Him talking about having Championships on the East Coast? Perhaps more like...Semifinals. Semifinals would be part of the Championships.

Expansion on the East Coast? If the schools are right but don't expect The Big Ten to scrape the bottom of the barrel simply for more locations on the East Coast.

Really, if you are talking the Northeast then only Syracuse has enough Ooomph to be valuable enough. I suppose if that is possible then ok but as of right now I think The Big Ten has enough of a headache getting through the Maryland issue first.

(11-06-2013 06:52 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(11-06-2013 06:45 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  I wonder where they'll all end up when the ocean levels rise due to all the global warming.

Are you hoping West Virginia becomes beach front property? haha

It won't rise that much. You overestimate the amount of water that's locked up as ice.

Sounds like Delany just wants to spend money. Who cares where a conference's HQ is?

I mean, is somebody in New Rochelle going to be going through their TV listings, see a choice between a Rutgers/Northwestern match-up and a Duke/Syracuse game, and say, "Hey, let's watch the Big Ten game! I hear they have an office down on 7th Avenue!"?

Or is a Miami football recruit who has to choose between Wisconsin and Clemson going to say, "I'm going to Wisconsin - I hear their conference headquarters is in NYC!"?

I think he should open B1G offices in all fifty states plus the District of Columbia. Heck - why not open offices in Europe and Tokyo while he's at it? That ought to make him feel a great deal better about himself than he did back in the days when he was forced to go to work in Chicago.

(11-06-2013 01:33 PM)Topkat Wrote:  

(11-06-2013 01:17 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  Talk about jumping to conclusions. I dont know how Delaney's comments about holding championships in the east and moving offices to the east transpires to expanding its members in the east. I'm sure that the BiG would like to expand its members in the east, if the right candidates are available, but that is a totally different subject than what he talked stated.

Actually the Big 10 said they were going to open an east coast office prior to taking Rutgers and Maryland.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...nd-rutgers

Exactly. There is exactly zero in the original article with a hint of a rumor of a suggestion that it was about conference expansion, but roll it out in front of some conference expansion rumor addicts deep into the pangs of withdrawal, and they'll just see what they want to see, even if its not there.

Of course the Big Ten BBall tournament is going to include the East Coast in the rotation, and of course some of the subsidy sports are going to have some of their championships on the east coast. That was on the cards since Rutgers and Maryland were invited. Same as opening a NYC office has been on the cards since the Rutgers & Maryland expansion.

So there is zero in the story that says anything about further expansion, but to those thirsting for P5 conference expansion rumors, they're so thirsty for the rumor that they'll take a mirage of a rumor if not actual rumor is available.

(11-06-2013 10:27 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(11-06-2013 01:33 PM)Topkat Wrote:  

(11-06-2013 01:17 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  Talk about jumping to conclusions. I dont know how Delaney's comments about holding championships in the east and moving offices to the east transpires to expanding its members in the east. I'm sure that the BiG would like to expand its members in the east, if the right candidates are available, but that is a totally different subject than what he talked stated.

Actually the Big 10 said they were going to open an east coast office prior to taking Rutgers and Maryland.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...nd-rutgers

Exactly. There is exactly zero in the original article with a hint of a rumor of a suggestion that it was about conference expansion, but roll it out in front of some conference expansion rumor addicts deep into the pangs of withdrawal, and they'll just see what they want to see, even if its not there.

Of course the Big Ten BBall tournament is going to include the East Coast in the rotation, and of course some of the subsidy sports are going to have some of their championships on the east coast. That was on the cards since Rutgers and Maryland were invited. Same as opening a NYC office has been on the cards since the Rutgers & Maryland expansion.

So there is zero in the story that says anything about further expansion, but to those thirsting for P5 conference expansion rumors, they're so thirsty for the rumor that they'll take a mirage of a rumor if not actual rumor is available.

So they say they want to open an east coast office. Then they add two east coast teams. Now here they are saying they want to open an east coast office and now even move CCT's east and you don't think they could possibly expand again?

(11-06-2013 06:45 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  I wonder where they'll all end up when the ocean levels rise due to all the global warming.

Atlantis

I'm really only okay with Kansas and Mizzou as adds, I am a full supporter of staying a (now mostly) midwestern conference. Buffalo I'd consider as a,potential add, got to see where their athletic department is headed with branding and commitment first.

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Why would Mo want to leave the SEC?

(11-07-2013 08:12 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Why would Mo want to leave the SEC?

Not saying they would, saying they are one of the only two (possibly three) teams I'd want in the Big Ten.

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The Big Ten may have a lot of east coast alumni but all their fans are in the Midwest. Granted, most of them only care about football so this is an attention grab. Wow, UMD, Penn State, and Rutgers? Good luck you floundering former Heel you.

Not true that only care about football. I'll definitely grant basketball plays a definite second fiddle at several schools (including mine) and does not get a lot of attention till conference play starts, but the attendance numbers are still very high overall (highest in the country actually). Beyond that, you have some basketball first schools like Indiana and increasingly Purdue.

(11-07-2013 10:18 AM)ohio1317 Wrote:  Not true that only care about football. I'll definitely grant basketball plays a definite second fiddle at several schools (including mine) and does not get a lot of attention till conference play starts, but the attendance numbers are still very high overall (highest in the country actually). Beyond that, you have some basketball first schools like Indiana and increasingly Purdue.

Yeah, I've never understood that line of thinking mainly because anyone that takes two seconds to look at the numbers will figure out just how wrong they are (just like every time that someone says that "No one likes boring Big Ten football," the objective ratings numbers clearly prove them wrong).

To use an analogy, the Celtics might the #4 pro team in the Boston market when it comes to fan support and intensity. However, the support that Boston has for the Celtics is still far greater than most of the #1 pro teams in their respective markets. That's the Big Ten - even the self-described football schools have larger basketball fan bases than the vast majority of self-described basketball schools elsewhere.

The Big Ten has had the highest average *basketball* attendance in the country for nearly 4 decades straight. How many schools can sell out over 16,500 seats every single night for basketball like Wisconsin and Ohio State, which their own fans would describe as "football schools"? The Big Ten has 8 of the top 25 schools for basketball attendance (including newcomer Maryland), while the vaunted basketball fan bases of the ACC only have 4 (concentrated at the top with the unusually large arenas of Louisville, Syracuse and UNC along with NC State). The SEC and Big 12 each have 3 in the top 25, while the Pac-12 only has 1 (Arizona). So, basketball fandom in the Big Ten isn't just a few elite outliers driving up the numbers - when over half of your conference is in the top 25 of basketball attendance, that shows top-to-bottom support for the sport even in a supposedly football-oriented conference.

About 99% of the athletic departments would kill for that type of across-the-board support for multiple sports. People can actually enjoy and excel at both sports - one shouldn't take away from the other (as schools like Ohio State and Florida have shown).

On a side note, that's a large part of the reason why the Big Ten Network has been able to sell well in its home markets - we (as Big Ten fans) actually do watch a lot of *both* football and basketball (and that's an underrated strength of the conference when it's being compared to the new SEC and Pac-12 Networks along with the prospect of an ACC network). When the BTN was going through carriage negotiations when it was started, it was actually basketball that pushed cable carriers over the edge. If you're a Big Ten fan, you can probably figure out ways to get to a bar a few times per year to watch your football team on BTN. There's a realistic workaround for football. However, it's virtually impossible to follow your basketball team unless you have BTN at home (or are willing to spend way more at the bar than you ever would for just paying for cable). In practicality, the BTN is simply a different vehicle than the old ESPN Plus syndicated package that the conference had when it comes to football. I don't get access to too many other football games than I had before. However, the BTN is unbelievable for basketball - that's where it's totally different since it has nightly access to an entire slate of games that people never had under the old syndication model.

(11-07-2013 11:15 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  The Big Ten has 8 of the top 25 schools for basketball attendance (including newcomer Maryland), while the vaunted basketball fan bases of the ACC only have 4 (concentrated at the top with the unusually large arenas of Louisville, Syracuse and UNC along with NC State).

Duke skews the ACC number a little. They could fill 25,000 seats if they wanted to. But I know your point is still valid.

(11-06-2013 12:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Who else beyond UConn? Navy?

Buffalo...New York Bulls!