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RE: Muslim Peace Conference of Moderates Agree - Stoning Death for Adultery
(11-06-2013 10:48 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:45 PM)maximus Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:44 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:22 PM)maximus Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 09:58 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  So condemning hundreds of millions of people is totally reasonable.


It's really simple math, what % of Muslims would you consider extremists? Keep in mind the video you just watched, if you even watched it.

That's not how statistics work.

I said in your opinion

My opinion doesn't matter. Humans are incapable of accurately guessing the frequency of events based on examples like this.

They managed to figure out that the tea party is racist, the GOP hates women, minorities, and especially people who are here illegally, the poor, and the elderly.
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RE: Muslim Peace Conference of Moderates Agree - Stoning Death for Adultery
(11-06-2013 10:19 PM)Paul M Wrote:  They endorsed stoning for gays. Feel better defending them now pumpkin?

Yup, the Muslims REALLY hate the gays. Libs don't want to touch that.
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RE: Muslim Peace Conference of Moderates Agree - Stoning Death for Adultery
(11-06-2013 10:54 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:48 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:45 PM)maximus Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:44 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:22 PM)maximus Wrote:  It's really simple math, what % of Muslims would you consider extremists? Keep in mind the video you just watched, if you even watched it.

That's not how statistics work.

I said in your opinion

My opinion doesn't matter. Humans are incapable of accurately guessing the frequency of events based on examples like this.

They managed to figure out that the tea party is racist, the GOP hates women, minorities, and especially people who are here illegally, the poor, and the elderly.

Two wrongs don't make a right. I swear to god half of you rely on irrelevant counterexamples and nothing else.
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RE: Muslim Peace Conference of Moderates Agree - Stoning Death for Adultery
(11-06-2013 09:46 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 09:35 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  The lesson: there is no "radical 10%" of Islam ... they're all dangerous radicals.

You're a horrible person.

OK, not every Muslim supports stoning for adultery. But you're crazy if you think only a tiny fraction of Muslims worldwide are like the ones in the video.

I don't get how some people are not bothered by Muslim honor killings and stonings, but then they become unglued over photo ID's for voting.
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(11-06-2013 10:58 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:54 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:48 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:45 PM)maximus Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:44 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  That's not how statistics work.

I said in your opinion

My opinion doesn't matter. Humans are incapable of accurately guessing the frequency of events based on examples like this.

They managed to figure out that the tea party is racist, the GOP hates women, minorities, and especially people who are here illegally, the poor, and the elderly.

Two wrongs don't make a right. I swear to god half of you rely on irrelevant counterexamples and nothing else.

Says the guy who dragged Hitler into this.
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RE: Muslim Peace Conference of Moderates Agree - Stoning Death for Adultery
(11-06-2013 11:00 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:58 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:54 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:48 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:45 PM)maximus Wrote:  I said in your opinion

My opinion doesn't matter. Humans are incapable of accurately guessing the frequency of events based on examples like this.

They managed to figure out that the tea party is racist, the GOP hates women, minorities, and especially people who are here illegally, the poor, and the elderly.

Two wrongs don't make a right. I swear to god half of you rely on irrelevant counterexamples and nothing else.

Says the guy who dragged Hitler into this.

I didn't bring Hitler into this. Someone else did.
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RE: Muslim Peace Conference of Moderates Agree - Stoning Death for Adultery
(11-06-2013 11:02 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 11:00 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:58 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:54 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:48 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  My opinion doesn't matter. Humans are incapable of accurately guessing the frequency of events based on examples like this.

They managed to figure out that the tea party is racist, the GOP hates women, minorities, and especially people who are here illegally, the poor, and the elderly.

Two wrongs don't make a right. I swear to god half of you rely on irrelevant counterexamples and nothing else.

Says the guy who dragged Hitler into this.

I didn't bring Hitler into this. Someone else did.

I'm doing this on a phone and don't catch every word of every thread. Sorry bro.
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RE: Muslim Peace Conference of Moderates Agree - Stoning Death for Adultery
(11-06-2013 10:51 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:50 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:01 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Jihads...crusades...inquisitions...religion and violence go hand in hand

The worst humans in all of history (Hitler, Stalin, Mao) were all big-government atheists.

Hitler wasn't an atheist. In fact, he used religion to justify what he was doing.

He certainly wasn't following any church teachings. Germany is 99% Catholic or Lutheran. I don't recall Hitler invoking either religion between 1933 and 1945.

My point is that there is far more to fear from big-government atheists than from the Pope.
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RE: Muslim Peace Conference of Moderates Agree - Stoning Death for Adultery
(11-06-2013 11:05 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:51 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:50 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:01 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Jihads...crusades...inquisitions...religion and violence go hand in hand

The worst humans in all of history (Hitler, Stalin, Mao) were all big-government atheists.

Hitler wasn't an atheist. In fact, he used religion to justify what he was doing.

He certainly wasn't following any church teachings. Germany is 99% Catholic or Lutheran. I don't recall Hitler invoking either religion between 1933 and 1945.

My point is that there is far more to fear from big-government atheists than from the Pope.

I'd encourage you to find any atheist that had views similar to Stalin or Mao. There may be communists hiding somewhere, but you aren't going to meet one.
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(11-06-2013 11:10 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 11:05 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:51 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:50 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:01 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Jihads...crusades...inquisitions...religion and violence go hand in hand

The worst humans in all of history (Hitler, Stalin, Mao) were all big-government atheists.

Hitler wasn't an atheist. In fact, he used religion to justify what he was doing.

He certainly wasn't following any church teachings. Germany is 99% Catholic or Lutheran. I don't recall Hitler invoking either religion between 1933 and 1945.

My point is that there is far more to fear from big-government atheists than from the Pope.

I'd encourage you to find any atheist that had views similar to Stalin or Mao. There may be communists hiding somewhere, but you aren't going to meet one.

Every evil dictator the world has ever known fits the mold:

99% have been non-religious and obsessed with consolidating power in a centralized government.
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(11-06-2013 10:05 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:03 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:01 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Jihads...crusades...inquisitions...religion and violence go hand in hand

See, when it's Islam blowing up people, they blame it on religion. When it's a southern Baptist wanting strict alcohol laws, it's Christianity.

That's how liberals maintain their belief that radical Islam is no worse than mainstream Christianity in America.

Pretty sad.

I have a negative view of all organized religions...I'm an equal opportunity offender.

Sure you do. Sure you are.
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RE: Muslim Peace Conference of Moderates Agree - Stoning Death for Adultery
(11-06-2013 10:51 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:50 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:01 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Jihads...crusades...inquisitions...religion and violence go hand in hand

The worst humans in all of history (Hitler, Stalin, Mao) were all big-government atheists.

Hitler wasn't an atheist. In fact, he used religion to justify what he was doing.

Wrong. What religion did he use.
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(11-06-2013 11:23 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:51 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:50 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:01 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Jihads...crusades...inquisitions...religion and violence go hand in hand

The worst humans in all of history (Hitler, Stalin, Mao) were all big-government atheists.

Hitler wasn't an atheist. In fact, he used religion to justify what he was doing.

Wrong. What religion did he use.

For one thing, Hitler commonly made speeches like this:

Quote:"There may have been a time when even parties founded on the ecclesiastical basis were a necessity. At that time Liberalism was opposed to the Church, while Marxism was anti-religious. But that time is past. National Socialism neither opposes the Church nor is it anti-religious, but on the contrary, it stands on the ground of a real Christianity. The Church's interests cannot fail to coincide with ours alike in our fight against the symptoms of degeneracy in the world of today, in our fight against the Bolshevist culture, against an atheistic movement, against criminality, and in our struggle for the consciousness of a community in our national life, for the conquest of hatred and disunion between the classes, for the conquest of civil war and unrest, of strife and discord. These are not anti-Christian, these are Christian principles."

Hitler pretty much used whatever he needed to manipulate people into following him. This included Christianity.
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(11-07-2013 12:50 AM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 11:23 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:51 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:50 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:01 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Jihads...crusades...inquisitions...religion and violence go hand in hand

The worst humans in all of history (Hitler, Stalin, Mao) were all big-government atheists.

Hitler wasn't an atheist. In fact, he used religion to justify what he was doing.

Wrong. What religion did he use.

For one thing, Hitler commonly made speeches like this:

Quote:"There may have been a time when even parties founded on the ecclesiastical basis were a necessity. At that time Liberalism was opposed to the Church, while Marxism was anti-religious. But that time is past. National Socialism neither opposes the Church nor is it anti-religious, but on the contrary, it stands on the ground of a real Christianity. The Church's interests cannot fail to coincide with ours alike in our fight against the symptoms of degeneracy in the world of today, in our fight against the Bolshevist culture, against an atheistic movement, against criminality, and in our struggle for the consciousness of a community in our national life, for the conquest of hatred and disunion between the classes, for the conquest of civil war and unrest, of strife and discord. These are not anti-Christian, these are Christian principles."

Hitler pretty much used whatever he needed to manipulate people into following him. This included Christianity.

He was also into the Occult, but since you are into anecdotal evidence, he was a madman f'ucking atheist. Better?
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(11-07-2013 01:13 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(11-07-2013 12:50 AM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 11:23 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:51 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:50 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  The worst humans in all of history (Hitler, Stalin, Mao) were all big-government atheists.

Hitler wasn't an atheist. In fact, he used religion to justify what he was doing.

Wrong. What religion did he use.

For one thing, Hitler commonly made speeches like this:

Quote:"There may have been a time when even parties founded on the ecclesiastical basis were a necessity. At that time Liberalism was opposed to the Church, while Marxism was anti-religious. But that time is past. National Socialism neither opposes the Church nor is it anti-religious, but on the contrary, it stands on the ground of a real Christianity. The Church's interests cannot fail to coincide with ours alike in our fight against the symptoms of degeneracy in the world of today, in our fight against the Bolshevist culture, against an atheistic movement, against criminality, and in our struggle for the consciousness of a community in our national life, for the conquest of hatred and disunion between the classes, for the conquest of civil war and unrest, of strife and discord. These are not anti-Christian, these are Christian principles."

Hitler pretty much used whatever he needed to manipulate people into following him. This included Christianity.

He was also into the Occult, but since you are into anecdotal evidence, he was a madman f'ucking atheist. Better?

Occult and atheist don't go together.
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(11-07-2013 12:50 AM)dmacfour Wrote:  
Quote:"There may have been a time when even parties founded on the ecclesiastical basis were a necessity. At that time Liberalism was opposed to the Church, while Marxism was anti-religious. But that time is past. National Socialism neither opposes the Church nor is it anti-religious, but on the contrary, it stands on the ground of a real Christianity. The Church's interests cannot fail to coincide with ours alike in our fight against the symptoms of degeneracy in the world of today, in our fight against the Bolshevist culture, against an atheistic movement, against criminality, and in our struggle for the consciousness of a community in our national life, for the conquest of hatred and disunion between the classes, for the conquest of civil war and unrest, of strife and discord. These are not anti-Christian, these are Christian principles."

Hitler pretty much used whatever he needed to manipulate people into following him. This included Christianity.

Are you sure this isn't Obama?
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(11-06-2013 10:48 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:45 PM)maximus Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:44 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:22 PM)maximus Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 09:58 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  So condemning hundreds of millions of people is totally reasonable.


It's really simple math, what % of Muslims would you consider extremists? Keep in mind the video you just watched, if you even watched it.

That's not how statistics work.

I said in your opinion

My opinion doesn't matter. Humans are incapable of accurately guessing the frequency of events based on examples like this.


Ok, since youre obviously avoiding where I am going with this(I think you realize that)...lets do it this way.

How many Muslims are in the world. That's a pretty easy one.
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Just curious, any females at this conference?
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(11-07-2013 02:22 AM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(11-07-2013 01:13 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(11-07-2013 12:50 AM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 11:23 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 10:51 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  Hitler wasn't an atheist. In fact, he used religion to justify what he was doing.

Wrong. What religion did he use.

For one thing, Hitler commonly made speeches like this:

Quote:"There may have been a time when even parties founded on the ecclesiastical basis were a necessity. At that time Liberalism was opposed to the Church, while Marxism was anti-religious. But that time is past. National Socialism neither opposes the Church nor is it anti-religious, but on the contrary, it stands on the ground of a real Christianity. The Church's interests cannot fail to coincide with ours alike in our fight against the symptoms of degeneracy in the world of today, in our fight against the Bolshevist culture, against an atheistic movement, against criminality, and in our struggle for the consciousness of a community in our national life, for the conquest of hatred and disunion between the classes, for the conquest of civil war and unrest, of strife and discord. These are not anti-Christian, these are Christian principles."

Hitler pretty much used whatever he needed to manipulate people into following him. This included Christianity.

He was also into the Occult, but since you are into anecdotal evidence, he was a madman f'ucking atheist. Better?

Occult and atheist don't go together.

Why not?
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